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Bishop Watterson teacher fired after being outed in obituary

  • dlazz
    Tiernan;1432720 wrote:We told her she might just become known as the "Rosa Parks" of Gay rights after this.
    This isn't the first time someone has been fired for this, so you are wrong.
  • reclegend22
    I have no problem with a Catholic school firing a gay teacher. A lesbian does not an exemplarly person of that faith make. [Insert the first priest joke your brain registers here.]

    Whether this school has a history of hypocrisy or not -- as some other poster seemed to indicate -- it's their right as I understand the law as a religious institution to hold their administration and staff to a moral standard that is aligned with the preachings of the church.
  • vball10set
    adsense at it's best (at the top of this page)

  • Tiernan
    reclegend22;1432729 wrote:I have no problem with a Catholic school firing a gay teacher. A lesbian does not an exemplarly person of that faith make. [Insert the first priest joke your brain registers here.]

    Whether this school has a history of hypocrisy or not -- as some other poster seemed to indicate -- it's their right as I understand the law as a religious institution to hold their administration and staff to a moral standard that is aligned with the preachings of the church.
    as its entirely within you're rights to be a complete asshat...congratulations you have achieved success!
  • reclegend22
    Tiernan;1432735 wrote:as its entirely within you're rights to be a complete asshat...congratulations you have achieved success!
    How is it not the right of the Catholic church to want to fill their schools with educators that follow the "laws" of their faith? Are you kidding me? Get out of here with that PC bullshit.

    If this were a public institution, then I would view the situation entirely different. It would be reprehensible. This isn't that case, however. This is a religious insitution wanting to uphold their ideals.
  • Midstate01
    Tiernan;1432735 wrote:as its entirely within you're rights to be a complete asshat...congratulations you have achieved success!

    Regardless its true. If its in the contract then they have every right to terminate that contract. Whether its idiotic or not.
  • WebFire
    reclegend22;1432737 wrote:How is it not the right of the Catholic church to want to fill their schools with educators that follow the "laws" of their faith? Are you kidding me? Get out of here with that PC bullshit.

    If this were a public institution, then I would view the situation entirely different. It would be reprehensible. This isn't that case, however. This is a religious insitution wanting to uphold their ideals.
    I'd be ok with that...in fact it is a bit hypocritical NOT to fire gay people in a Catholic school. However, you then need to fire everyone who commits soon. Bye-bye catholic school.
  • FatHobbit
    Midstate01;1432739 wrote:Regardless its true. If its in the contract then they have every right to terminate that contract. Whether its idiotic or not.
    They have the right to terminate based on her contract. People have the right to complain and the school is going to have to decide if it wants to take the heat or not.
  • Midstate01
    FatHobbit;1432741 wrote:They have the right to terminate based on her contract. People have the right to complain and the school is going to have to decide if it wants to take the heat or not.

    Yep. They aren't going to hire her back regardless. They can hire someone younger for less money.
  • Heretic
    Tiernan;1432735 wrote:as its entirely within you're rights to be a complete asshat...congratulations you have achieved success!
    Well, there is truth to what he says. We all know that in Catholic-land, homosexual behavior is only cool when it's an adult male using his status as a way to pound some altar-boy ass.

    Two women in a loving, consenting relationship, though...GET THAT WEAK STUFF OUTTA HERE!!!!
  • Tiernan
    Actually in Columbus Ohio the Church does not have the right to fire over sexual orientation. City Law prohibits it and supercedes any ancient BS still being directed from some belfry in the Vatican. I left the Catoleigh Church 40 yrs ago because even as a teenager I saw and understood the hypocrisy that belongs to that terrorist organization (yeah I said it...terrorist).
  • 4cards
    ...I was listening to a talk radio show that was doing a segment with people calling into the lawyer in studio to answer legal questions. The lawyer said that in Ohio an employer can fire your for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all. I'm not sure what he meant by it, but seeing as how this woman worked for a private school, they could terminate her just by stating they weren't happy with her job performance and not bring being gay into the conversation at all.

    ...IMO, I think it's pretty crappy to fire this woman for her sexual preference and that she should get her job back.
  • derek bomar
    reclegend22;1432737 wrote:How is it not the right of the Catholic church to want to fill their schools with educators that follow the "laws" of their faith? Are you kidding me? Get out of here with that PC bullshit.

    If this were a public institution, then I would view the situation entirely different. It would be reprehensible. This isn't that case, however. This is a religious insitution wanting to uphold their ideals.
    selective enforcement. Look it up.
  • vball10set
    SnotBubbles;1432606 wrote:Bishop Watterson is a Christian school. They play by different rules.
    yup
    A man suffered a serious heart attack while shopping in a store.

    The clerks called 911 when they saw him collapse to the floor.

    The paramedics rushed the man to the nearest hospital where he had
    emergency open heart bypass surgery.

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    <ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on">Catholic</ST1:PLACENAME> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">Hospital</ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE> he was taken to.

    A nun was seated next to his bed holding a clip board loaded with several
    forms and a pen. She asked him how he was going to pay for his treatment.

    "Do you have health insurance?" she asked.

    He replied in a raspy voice, "No health insurance."

    The nun asked, "Do you have money in the bank?"

    He replied, "No money in the bank."

    "Do you have a relative who could help you with the payments, asked the
    irritated nun?

    He said, "I only have a spinster sister and she is a nun."

    The nun became agitated and announced loudly, "Nuns are not
    spinsters! Nuns are married to God."

    The patient replied, "Perfect. Send the bill to my brother-in-law."
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  • reclegend22
    derek bomar;1432751 wrote:selective enforcement. Look it up.
    I don't like scavenger hunts. I'd rather you just tell me about it and how it pertains to this case.
  • derek bomar
    reclegend22;1432757 wrote:I don't like scavenger hunts. I'd rather you just tell me about it and how it pertains to this case.
    you don't know what selective enforcement means?
  • gut
    Sexual preference is not a protected class, anyway.
  • QuakerOats
    If a contract was signed, the contract rules ..... whether or not anyone likes it. Get your contract law textbooks out and read up.
  • reclegend22
    derek bomar;1432761 wrote:you don't know what selective enforcement means?
    Yes, but I am trying to figure out why you do not think the Catholic church, as a private organization, has the right to hire -- and fire -- based on the tenets of their faith.
  • QuakerOats
    4cards;1432750 wrote:...I was listening to a talk radio show that was doing a segment with people calling into the lawyer in studio to answer legal questions. The lawyer said that in Ohio an employer can fire your for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all.
    This is true in the general sense of Ohio being an 'at-will' state. This doctrine applies in the absence of a contract and it allows either party, the employer or the employee, to terminate the employment relationship, for no reason or cause, without recourse. It is a two-way street.

    However, in the instance of this thread topic, my assumption is that the employment arrangement was by contract, and thus the contract itself will dictate. Whatever is in the contract, will determine the ultimate outcome of this matter.
  • Tiernan
    Let me dumb down "selective enforecement" for you Recball...it basically says that when law enforcement & judicial bodies come across situations that may not cleanly adhere to established laws there is some room for common sense to be applied. In other words when idiots such as yourself can't understand why this situation is a clear cut travesty of human rights, there is room for interpretation to first call out the said idiots (you, those like you and the Catholic Church) and secondly say "hey idiots...she is able to go back to work and for the undue BS you put her through you're also going to give her $1M or there abouts."
  • WebFire
    gut;1432762 wrote:Sexual preference is not a protected class, anyway.
    Then there's this. At-will state, not a protected class. Bye-bye teacher for being a lesbian.
  • gut
    WebFire;1432781 wrote:Then there's this. At-will state, not a protected class. Bye-bye teacher for being a lesbian.
    It's really is just that simple.
  • justincredible
    gut;1432782 wrote:It's really is just that simple.
    Sure. It's that simple. Doesn't means people can't show their displeasure. After 19 years you fire a woman based on her mothers obit? Fucking. Despicable.
  • derek bomar
    reclegend22;1432767 wrote:Yes, but I am trying to figure out why you do not think the Catholic church, as a private organization, has the right to hire -- and fire -- based on the tenets of their faith.
    I am not saying they don't have that right. I am saying I find it insanely hypocritical of them to do so in this instance, when they are applying a standard that if applied evenly, would lead to the dismissal of almost all of their teachers, not just at BWHS, but everywhere.

    Also, the current principal at BWHS, from my understanding, was responsible for the divorce of a football coach. She then got promoted. The dioceses knows this. The dioceses also knows about the sexual preference of the principal at my alma mater, but choses not to do anything about it because they have not received formal complaints.

    I think it's absolutely mind-numbing how ridiculous her firing is. How many teachers take birth control but teach for the school? How many live with their s/o but aren't married? How many masturbate, eat meat on Fridays, or take the lord's name in vein?

    You can't, imho, punish this woman. If you do, you need to be fair and punish everyone for not living up to the morality clause they all signed. The clause imho is unenforceable because if it was actually enforced evenly they wouldn't have anyone to teach in their schools.