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Skyhook79
You said it was a crock as if you know for sure. Prove it.I Wear Pants;1145679 wrote:Prove that people say similar things often or prove their statement false?
If you mean the latter then it really isn't my job to prove it false. It's their job to prove their own claim not mine to disprove it. Just like (when debating the existence/lack of god, not in everyday conversation or anything) it's theists job to prove that a god exists and if they so choose to further prove that the particular version of god they follow exists. Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
If you meant prove that I hear people say that I simply won't. It's an anecdote from my life and I'm not going to scour my facebook wall or anything like that to prove that it happens to some dude on the OC. -
I Wear Pants
I was responding to a claim that was made. The claim being "without religion we wouldn't have morals". It isn't my burden to prove that statement false rather it is the burden of the person making the claim to prove it is true. Which they never do.Skyhook79;1145681 wrote:You said it was a crock as if you know for sure. Prove it.
It's simply the way debate and discussion works.
If I say that I have one billion dollars and a unicorn in my backyard and you say "that is a crock of shit" it isn't your responsibility to prove me wrong. It would be me, the person making the claim, that would have to prove something. -
Curly J
I Wear Pants;1145683 wrote:I was responding to a claim that was made. The claim being "without religion we wouldn't have morals". It isn't my burden to prove that statement false rather it is the burden of the person making the claim to prove it is true. Which they never do.
It's simply the way debate and discussion works.
If I say that I have one billion dollars and a unicorn in my backyard and you say "that is a crock of shit" it isn't your responsibility to prove me wrong. It would be me, the person making the claim, that would have to prove something.
/Ender'd -
I Wear Pants
How dare you sir! :mad:Curly J;1145686 wrote:/Ender'd -
Skyhook79
Now you are comparing apples to oranges. One situation neither person can prove or disprove and the other is easily proved or dis-proved.I Wear Pants;1145683 wrote:I was responding to a claim that was made. The claim being "without religion we wouldn't have morals". It isn't my burden to prove that statement false rather it is the burden of the person making the claim to prove it is true. Which they never do.
It's simply the way debate and discussion works.
If I say that I have one billion dollars and a unicorn in my backyard and you say "that is a crock of shit" it isn't your responsibility to prove me wrong. It would be me, the person making the claim, that would have to prove something. -
I Wear Pants
Ok, if it's easy then prove that you cannot have morals without religion.Skyhook79;1145690 wrote:Now you are comparing apples to oranges. One situation neither person can prove or disprove and the other is easily proved or dis-proved.
(And it's comparing oranges to oranges, both situations are concepts wherein definitive measurable proof of either position is impossible.)
I imagine you're going to give some examples of the morality of Christianity and how it's been a good thing for the world and how we need it and then perhaps showcase what you think are some of the moral ills that happen when one isn't religious/Christian. But you'll fail to mention both the tremendous moral atrocities religion has brought and also good deeds done by those who are not religious.
At least that's how this conversation normally goes. Let's see if you'll surprise me. -
DeyDurkie5
if a bear jerks off in the woods, does he cum? Prove that one -
I Wear Pants
Can bears even jerk off/do the do that? I thought there weren't a whole lot of masturbatory species.DeyDurkie5;1145696 wrote:if a bear jerks off in the woods, does he cum? Prove that one -
Skyhook79
Thats not the easy one to prove, you cannot just get rid of religion. It would be pretty easy to prove if you have a billion dollars and a unicorn in your backyard.I Wear Pants;1145693 wrote:Ok, if it's easy then prove that you cannot have morals without religion.
(And it's comparing oranges to oranges, both situations are concepts wherein definitive measurable proof of either position is impossible.)
I imagine you're going to give some examples of the morality of Christianity and how it's been a good thing for the world and how we need it and then perhaps showcase what you think are some of the moral ills that happen when one isn't religious/Christian. But you'll fail to mention both the tremendous moral atrocities religion has brought and also good deeds done by those who are not religious.
At least that's how this conversation normally goes. Let's see if you'll surprise me. -
Curly J
If it's a male, it masturbates.I Wear Pants;1145699 wrote:Can bears even jerk off/do the do that? I thought there weren't a whole lot of masturbatory species. -
Skyhook79
DeyDurkie would know that is for sure.I Wear Pants;1145699 wrote:Can bears even jerk off/do the do that? I thought there weren't a whole lot of masturbatory species. -
Y-Town Steelhound
Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there....right?Skyhook79;1145702 wrote: It would be pretty easy to prove if you have a billion dollars and a unicorn in your backyard. -
DeyDurkie5
I jerk off bears all the time.Skyhook79;1145704 wrote:DeyDurkie would know that is for sure. -
Curly J
DeyDurkie5;1145709 wrote:I jerk off bears all the time.
Not I. I prefer to Bear Dick Punch !!! -
Heretic
Simple common sense needs proven?Skyhook79;1145681 wrote:You said it was a crock as if you know for sure. Prove it. -
Raw Dawgin' it
So you believe unicorns don't exist but a supreme being does?Skyhook79;1145702 wrote:Thats not the easy one to prove, you cannot just get rid of religion. It would be pretty easy to prove if you have a billion dollars and a unicorn in your backyard. -
sleeper
Yeah and AIG had to be bailed out by the government for peddling false beliefs too.jmog;1145486 wrote:Hey moron, you do realize that AiG DOES pay taxes and is run as a business right?
I'm disappointed in your jmog, thought you were a scientist. -
sleeper
Dawkins talks about this in his book. No believer on here would dare read it though because that would require removing your head from the sand.I Wear Pants;1145661 wrote:But it's relevant. I hear people say that without religion we wouldn't have morals all the time which is a crock of shit. -
Skyhook79
Where did I say that? I said it would be easy to prove if one was in his backyard or not.Raw Dawgin' it;1145853 wrote:So you believe unicorns don't exist but a supreme being does? -
Raw Dawgin' it
So you do believe they exist?Skyhook79;1145970 wrote:Where did I say that? I said it would be easy to prove if one was in his backyard or not. -
sleeper
What if it was an invisible unicorn?Skyhook79;1145970 wrote:Where did I say that? I said it would be easy to prove if one was in his backyard or not. -
Raw Dawgin' it
aren't they all? I have one in my office right now.sleeper;1145980 wrote:What if it was an invisible unicorn? -
rmolin73
Kind of like your invisible McDonalds? Got it!sleeper;1145980 wrote:What if it was an invisible unicorn? -
sleeper
:rolleyes:rmolin73;1146006 wrote:Kind of like your invisible McDonalds? Got it!
I guess people continue to remain jealous that I can afford an investment in such a great cash generator like a McDonald's. Enjoy! -
rmolin73
Nahsleeper;1146016 wrote::rolleyes:
I guess people continue to remain jealous that I can afford an investment in such a great cash generator like a McDonald's. Enjoy!
Now I'm jealous of this!Raw Dawgin' it;1146003 wrote:aren't they all? I have one in my office right now.