Trayvon Martin

• rmolin73

  

  iclfan2;1129488 wrote:No, I'll be working at a job, something these people rallying apparently don't have. Also, calling a mexican guy a cracker is pretty outrageous (not at you, from the picture earlier in the thread). Anyway, regardless of if there is a riot or not, I can still hope for one. Show how idiotic these people are. Let the whole story come out, then figure out what to do. The clowns are the people clamoring for the guys bounty and posting hoodie pictures all over the damn internet.

  No the clown would be anyone calling for violence of any kind. You my friend are no different then the people you speak of.
• Automatik

  

  The real clowns are anyone initially involved from that Orlando police department. What a fucking hack job.
• friendfromlowry

  Sykotyk;1129397 wrote:The situation wouldn't have happened. AT ALL, if it weren't for Zimmerman following him, getting out of his car, etc. He called police. That's what he was supposed to do. He escalated the situation into something bigger. And then to use 'self defense'....No. He called police because, in his eyes, he saw something suspicious. That's all he needed to do. But, that wasn't enough for Suburban Commando.

  I don't understand the bolded comments. I was under the impression stated by numerous articles that yes, he did follow Martin, and call the police, but when he was ordered to stop his pursuit, he did. He was confronted minutes later by Martin. So I don't know where you're getting the 'Suburban Commando' who was 'escalating the situation.'
• LJ

  

  friendfromlowry;1129515 wrote:I don't understand the bolded comments. I was under the impression stated by numerous articles that yes, he did follow Martin, and call the police, but when he was ordered to stop his pursuit, he did. He was confronted minutes later by Martin. So I don't know where you're getting the 'Suburban Commando' who was 'escalating the situation.'

  He has a history of aggressively going after people he thinks are breaking the law. Getting out of the car to go after Martin is where he escalated it.
• Gblock

  password why does the nhwatch guy need a 9 milli? Who even does nhwatch at that hour? Talking w my boy who is representing the hma they say no way should he have had a gun and did not authorize any of his actions and will do their best to distance themselves from him
• friendfromlowry

  LJ;1129520 wrote:He has a history of aggressively going after people he thinks are breaking the law. Getting out of the car to go after Martin is where he escalated it.

  I thought that was apart of his duty as a neighborhood watchman or whatever he is/was? He was following him trying to keep an eye until the cops arrived. Would the more appropriate course of action to have continue driving away, then calling the cops?
• LJ

  

  friendfromlowry;1129525 wrote:I thought that was apart of his duty as a neighborhood watchman or whatever he is/was? He was following him trying to keep an eye until the cops arrived. Would the more appropriate course of action to have continue driving away, then calling the cops?

  More appropriate would have been to stay in the car and alert police to his direction. You know police sponsored neighborhood watch directives are almost always that you do not confront or go after a suspicious person. Nor are you supposed to carry a weapon when on watch. He was a resident who was nothing more. Not a cop. Not a security guard. Nothing. A resident.
• GOONx19

  

  password;1129480 wrote:1. I was not suspended from school for having stolen jewelry and screwdrivers in my bag.
  2. I never bragged about taking a swing at the bus driver.
  3. I didn't have racist tattoos.

  I lol'd. So when the right-wing media tells you this it must be true, but other media presenting him as a good kid is just an agenda?
  
  Oh, and just so you know. One of his two tattoos said Sybrina. Nothing more, just text. It's his mom's name. Must be racist, huh?
  
  The other is this one:
  
  
  
  I know you're sure it's some gang sign, but in the real world, it's actually praying hands, a rosary, and the word "Nana". It's what he called he grandmother.
  
  Maybe you're the one that's too quick to listen to what you hear.
• friendfromlowry

  LJ;1129531 wrote:More appropriate would have been to stay in the car and alert police to his direction. You know police sponsored neighborhood watch directives are almost always that you do not confront or go after a suspicious person. Nor are you supposed to carry a weapon when on watch. He was a resident who was nothing more. Not a cop. Not a security guard. Nothing. A resident.

  I thought he actually had some police training -- like he took a four month training course. The CNN articles from last Thursday/Friday detailed that a little more. He wasn't just some Joe Blow like you or I. He was semi-trained and had knowledge and experience with this type of thing.
• 2kool4skool

  

  friendfromlowry;1129588 wrote:I thought he actually had some police training -- like he took a four month training course. The CNN articles from last Thursday/Friday detailed that a little more. He wasn't just some Joe Blow like you or I. He was semi-trained and had knowledge and experience with this type of thing.

  Who gives a shit? He has no authority. The police(the ones with actual authority) told him to stay in his car.
• friendfromlowry

  2kool4skool;1129593 wrote:Who gives a ****? He has no authority. The police(the ones with actual authority) told him to stay in his car.

  And he did. He got out of his car, called the cops, they told him to go back or stop pursuit, so he did. Jesus christ what the fuck is so hard to understand about all of this
• LJ

  

  friendfromlowry;1129588 wrote:I thought he actually had some police training -- like he took a four month training course. The CNN articles from last Thursday/Friday detailed that a little more. He wasn't just some Joe Blow like you or I. He was semi-trained and had knowledge and experience with this type of thing.

  You mean this?
  

  He was accepted and completed the one-night-a-week, 14-hour program.
  Sheriff's spokeswoman Heather Smith stressed that the program is simply an educational tool designed to engage citizens and teach them about policing.
  "It's not a training academy. Participants are not issued any type of sheriff's equipment or deputization," Smith said.

  
  
  LOL
  
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  Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/03/24/142993/zimmerman-described-as-a-caring.html#storylink=cpy
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  I have over 100 hours of tactical, self defense and so on training. He did everything you are taught to NOT do in every situation. He was a blowhard wannabe cop.
• 2kool4skool

  

  friendfromlowry;1129597 wrote:And he did. He got out of his car, called the cops, they told him to go back or stop pursuit, so he did. Jesus christ what the fuck is so hard to understand about all of this

  Sorry, I didn't realize anyone was buying the story that he went back to his car but still managed to get dragged out and beaten by the unarmed teenager he outweighed by 100 lbs.
• fish82

  

  2kool4skool;1129593 wrote:Who gives a ****? He has no authority. The police(the ones with actual authority) told him to stay in his car.

  911 dispatchers are civilians...they have no legal authority to tell anyone to do anything.
  

  2kool4skool;1129611 wrote:Sorry, I didn't realize anyone was buying the story that he went back to his car but still managed to get dragged out and beaten by the unarmed teenager he outweighed by 100 lbs.

  No one said he got "dragged out" of his car. Zimmerman's account is that the kid came up to him as he was on his way back to the car.
• friendfromlowry

  2kool4skool;1129611 wrote:Sorry, I didn't realize anyone was buying the story that he went back to his car but still managed to get dragged out and beaten by the unarmed teenager he outweighed by 100 lbs.

  So you're disregarding the story that multiple witnesses have confirmed, and instead dismissing it because there's no way someone who's smaller can beat up someone larger than them?
• Glory Days

  

  2kool4skool;1129611 wrote:Sorry, I didn't realize anyone was buying the story that he went back to his car but still managed to get dragged out and beaten by the unarmed teenager he outweighed by 100 lbs.

  dont have to buy it, witnesses stated it. he probably tried to avoid a physical confrontation but the kid kept at it(by punching and slamming his head into the ground)
• 2kool4skool

  

  fish82;1129624 wrote:911 dispatchers are civilians...they have no legal authority to tell anyone to do anything.

  Florida 911 Operators are deputized. But regardless, part of his training for this weekend course he prided himself on would have indicated he should follow dispatcher advice during an emergency.
  
  
  

  No one said he got "dragged out" of his car. Zimmerman's account is that the kid came up to him as he was on his way back to the car.

  Oh, so he followed him, and as soon as he turned around and stopped pursuing him, that's when Martin decided to attack. He was then beat up by the unarmed teenager he had 100 lbs on.
  
  Makes sense. Almost as much sense as the idea that Martin decided to case some houses(in the same gated community he was living in) and then fly into a violent rage after walking to the gas station to get some skittles and talk to his girlfriend on the phone.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
• 2kool4skool

  

  friendfromlowry;1129625 wrote:So you're disregarding the story that multiple witnesses have confirmed, and instead dismissing it because there's no way someone who's smaller can beat up someone larger than them?

  And multiple witnesses say otherwise
  

  Glory Days;1129626 wrote:he probably tried to avoid a physical confrontation but the kid kept at it(by punching and slamming his head into the ground)

  :laugh:
• dlazz

  Let's all get in a pissing match about something that has absolutely nothing to do with us.
• 2kool4skool

  

  ccrunner609;1129639 wrote:why do people keep bringing up how much he weighed? I have owned people that were way heavier then me.

  1.) No you haven't. You're a cross country coach/gym teacher
  
  2.) If I got beat up by a teenager I outweighed by 100 lbs, I'd have probably taken my own life rather than his.
• dwccrew

  

  password;1129278 wrote:This story really sheds some light on the kid. The kids parents almost had everyone fooled, but the truth always comes out. He was nothing but a thug and because of a young thug we are headed for race riots. I think it is time to put this country back on track and the november election can't get here soon enough.
  
  http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/320096/20120327/trayvon-martin-case-photos-new-facebook-details.htm

  Let me get this straight......because this kid was shot and killed it is his fault that we are "headed for race riots"? You are a buffoon. A racist buffoon.
• friendfromlowry

  2kool4skool;1129641 wrote:And multiple witnesses say otherwise
  
  
  
  :laugh:

  Actually the more recent articles are leaning in the direction of his story. You'll find less and less saying he was the instigator.
• password

  

  Gblock;1129524 wrote:password why does the nhwatch guy need a 9 milli? Who even does nhwatch at that hour? Talking w my boy who is representing the hma they say no way should he have had a gun and did not authorize any of his actions and will do their best to distance themselves from him

  I am all for prosecuting Zimmerman with a crime, not because he is a racist, but because he shot a young kid. I have a problem with the family and the circus that is being created by the racist Sharpton and his goons. They tried to make this kid out to be an angel that has never done anything wrong so they could gain publicity and unite the blacks against the whites, Zimmerman isn't even white but they would not get as much attention if they said that a Hispanic guy shot a black guy. I don't know what the laws are in Florida as to what a neighborhood watch person can or can't do, but carrying a gun in a gated community seems a little on the extreme side to me.
• Sykotyk

  

  dwccrew;1129652 wrote:Let me get this straight......because this kid was shot and killed it is his fault that we are "headed for race riots"? You are a buffoon. A racist buffoon.

  dwccrew, I seriously doubt 'password' even believes anything he's writing on here. He's probably in his parent's basement beating off furiously to the banter he's eliciting in us from his buffoonery.
  
  
  As for the scales of justice:
  
  Doubt should side with the person who is dead.
  
  Ever hear the phrase, "The victor writes the history"? Same thing here. We will only get to talk to the victor. He gets to tell the story. It's the police, DA, FBI, judicial system, etc to determine Travon's story in the light that he can't, and never will, get to tell it.
• password

  

  dwccrew;1129652 wrote:Let me get this straight......because this kid was shot and killed it is his fault that we are "headed for race riots"? You are a buffoon. A racist buffoon.

  No it is not his fault, but it is his parents and the idiots they have surrounded themselves with that want to stir the pot and divide the country for their own gain. See you can call me a racist and thats ok, because that is what this country has come to when someone doesn't bow to the black community. I think that some of the blacks are the reason that racism will always flourish in our country, the don't want everyone to get along because they wouldn't have anything to do with their lives and how would people like Sharpton and Jackson make a living with out stirring the pot.