how do you see the playoff?
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thavoice
the 64 idea is idiotic for football. The teams in the finals would play 6 playoff games...damn near the full season.Al Bundy;1600851 wrote:If you want to make it more like March Madness, you don't need anywhere near 64 teams. You currently have 10 conferences. You could have a 16 team tournament with the 10 conference champs and 6 at-large. You could have a 12 team tournament with 10 conference champs and 2 at large (top 4 conference winners would have byes). If the first 2 rounds were played in early December, you would be down to 4 teams by mid-December. Two bowls could be used as semi-finals like they will be under the new format. The teams that were eliminated early could still go to the other bowls.
Football isnt like basketball. In terms of the big 3 sports, the "better" team wins a much higher % than in the other sports. In football you can impose your will much easier than in basketball.
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coachchuck
thanks for the input but was trying to taking all the factors out about people being able to bitch about someone not getting in the champs would play 14 games (just like most teams now) the big confrences and small confrences are in (not like now) and ever team has a chance to get in the bracket. (not possible with strenght of schedule now).
I hated using the basketball formula but the 16 team bracket is better but it gives room for some slap dick to complan about fresno state or virgina tech not being in because of being 17 or some horsesh#& like that. March madness for football would probably kill the small market schools ( jobs scholorships coachs ) if you only play nine games and your done then what. Bad example on my part but i love the sworm of ideas getting throw around.
Hope one day it is a deeper playoff format but it took how many years to get a four team playoff -
Heretic
So, what you're saying is that if a MAC team goes unbeaten and wins their conference championship game and a B1G team has one loss against a Top 10 opponent, but wins their conference championship game, the MAC team is better and deserves into the playoffs before the B1G team would.sleeper;1600811 wrote:They are equal. Stop crying.
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sherm03
That's a stretch. Quit trying to hold on to a system that isn't based on wins and losses. Something about crying. Get a job. Notre Dame sucks. /sleeper'dHeretic;1600876 wrote:So, what you're saying is that if a MAC team goes unbeaten and wins their conference championship game and a B1G team has one loss against a Top 10 opponent, but wins their conference championship game, the MAC team is better and deserves into the playoffs before the B1G team would.
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KnightRyder
No they are just way to insure B1G team gets in the playoffssleeper;1600549 wrote:Conference championships are filters. -
believer
FIFYKnightRyder;1601360 wrote:No they are just a way to insure B1G team gets in the playoffs for their annual before-a-national-audience choke.
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sleeper
Under the current system no MAC school should ever play for the championship undefeated or not. When I said "They are equal" I was cleraly talking about the 'BCS' conferences and not the irrelevant mid majors. However, given your scenario, both are conference champions and deserve it over anyone who did not win their own conference.Heretic;1600876 wrote:So, what you're saying is that if a MAC team goes unbeaten and wins their conference championship game and a B1G team has one loss against a Top 10 opponent, but wins their conference championship game, the MAC team is better and deserves into the playoffs before the B1G team would.
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KnightRyder
it seems MAC teams are only relevant when OSU has them on their schedule.sleeper;1601705 wrote:Under the current system no MAC school should ever play for the championship undefeated or not. When I said "They are equal" I was cleraly talking about the 'BCS' conferences and not the irrelevant mid majors. However, given your scenario, both are conference champions and deserve it over anyone who did not win their own conference. -
vball10set
Are you off your meds again?KnightRyder;1601713 wrote:it seems MAC teams are only relevant when OSU has them on their schedule. -
coachchuck
After all the talk about this what if we got a 8 team playoff starting in the first weekend in December? In light of history how many of those teams that finished 9-16 in the polls before bowl games could have a shot year in and year out? I believe this idea has been stated and think it is border line brilliant. 5 confrance champs and three at large bigs. The question then becomes who are the at large pics a one loss independent (ND) some confrence runner up's? A cinderella story team Boise State a few years ago Northern Illonois? I hope we can get to this point to see a true champ way overbored on my 64 team idea MY BAD.
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sleeper
Agreed. We need more Sun Belt teams on our schedule like the SEC and ACC.KnightRyder;1601713 wrote:it seems MAC teams are only relevant when OSU has them on their schedule. -
sleeper
ND should get an autobid every year even if they are 0-12. I'd love to watch them get blown out on the big stage year after year.coachchuck;1601950 wrote:After all the talk about this what if we got a 8 team playoff starting in the first weekend in December? In light of history how many of those teams that finished 9-16 in the polls before bowl games could have a shot year in and year out? I believe this idea has been stated and think it is border line brilliant. 5 confrance champs and three at large bigs. The question then becomes who are the at large pics a one loss independent (ND) some confrence runner up's? A cinderella story team Boise State a few years ago Northern Illonois? I hope we can get to this point to see a true champ way overbored on my 64 team idea MY BAD. -
KnightRyder
ACC teams also have SEC teams on their schedule. i dont recall noticing SEC teams on OSU's schedulesleeper;1601994 wrote:Agreed. We need more Sun Belt teams on our schedule like the SEC and ACC. -
vball10set
It's because they won't come north of the Mason-Dixon line to play them.KnightRyder;1601997 wrote:ACC teams also have SEC teams on their schedule. i dont recall noticing SEC teams on OSU's schedule -
sleeper
SEC teams don't want to play Ohio State because they don't want to get blown out in the shoe ever year and ruin their mythical superiority. I'd love for Ohio State to schedule a home and home with Alabama, LSU, and Auburn. The MAC is better than any team in the SEC East so we can stick with those opponents going forward.KnightRyder;1601997 wrote:ACC teams also have SEC teams on their schedule. i dont recall noticing SEC teams on OSU's schedule -
KnightRyder
Lets be real , OSU doesnt want any part of the SEC and the humiliation that goes along with it. last time i checked OSU couldnt even beat Clemson from the ACC.sleeper;1602003 wrote:SEC teams don't want to play Ohio State because they don't want to get blown out in the shoe ever year and ruin their mythical superiority. I'd love for Ohio State to schedule a home and home with Alabama, LSU, and Auburn. The MAC is better than any team in the SEC East so we can stick with those opponents going forward. -
vball10set
Ignore him, sleeper, he's like a zit that'll eventually go away.sleeper;1602003 wrote:SEC teams don't want to play Ohio State because they don't want to get blown out in the shoe ever year and ruin their mythical superiority. I'd love for Ohio State to schedule a home and home with Alabama, LSU, and Auburn. The MAC is better than any team in the SEC East so we can stick with those opponents going forward. -
KnightRyder
so you are saying the only way OSU will play them is in the cozy confines of the shoe? if OSU so is bad why not take your show on the road and prove it. wait i forgot you do that in bowl games with little success vs the SEC. furthermore you know damn well OSU isnt even looking to schedule a SEC power late in the season.why should a SEC team travel north to play a tomato can from the B1G when they can in the south and play a better opponent from the ACC. BTW in 2011 didnt Alabama travel up to happy valley? last time i checked state college pa is north of the mason dixon line. oh well good try , thanks for playing.vball10set;1602001 wrote:It's because they won't come north of the Mason-Dixon line to play them. -
sleeper
OSU does want a part of the SEC. I've stated many times I'd love to play the SEC West every year but the reality is the SEC has no interest in coming to Columbus. The Clemson loss can't be anymore embarrassing than losing to Oklahoma or 1-hit wonder Florida State.KnightRyder;1602042 wrote:Lets be real , OSU doesnt want any part of the SEC and the humiliation that goes along with it. last time i checked OSU couldnt even beat Clemson from the ACC. -
sleeper
Convenient for Alabama to travel up north to play against a school with death penalty level NCAA sanctions.KnightRyder;1602050 wrote:so you are saying the only way OSU will play them is in the cozy confines of the shoe? if OSU so is bad why not take your show on the road and prove it. wait i forgot you do that in bowl games with little success vs the SEC. furthermore you know damn well OSU isnt even looking to schedule a SEC power late in the season.why should a SEC team travel north to play a tomato can from the B1G when they can in the south and play a better opponent from the ACC. BTW in 2011 didnt Alabama travel up to happy valley? last time i checked state college pa is north of the mason dixon line. oh well good try , thanks for playing. -
KnightRyder
the ncaa sanctions were handed down in 2012 , bama came north in 2011. would you like guess again?sleeper;1602055 wrote:Convenient for Alabama to travel up north to play against a school with death penalty level NCAA sanctions. -
KnightRyder
With only one national title in the past 40 years OSU is the 1-hit wondersleeper;1602054 wrote:OSU does want a part of the SEC. I've stated many times I'd love to play the SEC West every year but the reality is the SEC has no interest in coming to Columbus. The Clemson loss can't be anymore embarrassing than losing to Oklahoma or 1-hit wonder Florida State. -
Automatik
I'd LOVE to see a home and home with an SEC power every year, but like you said...won't happen.sleeper;1602054 wrote:OSU does want a part of the SEC. I've stated many times I'd love to play the SEC West every year but the reality is the SEC has no interest in coming to Columbus. The Clemson loss can't be anymore embarrassing than losing to Oklahoma or 1-hit wonder Florida State. -
vball10set
home-and-home, numnuts :rolleyes:KnightRyder;1602050 wrote:so you are saying the only way OSU will play them is in the cozy confines of the shoe? -
thavoice
No doubt it wont happen.Automatik;1602064 wrote:I'd LOVE to see a home and home with an SEC power every year, but like you said...won't happen.
And now with a 4 team playoff....why even try it? If you are a big ten, or sec team, and go undefeated you are in the playoff. No doubt. (unless maybe you schdule some non DI NC teams).
The need to try and have one decent/great NC game will dwindle even more.