tOSU vs. USNA

• believer

  

  vball10set;1649537 wrote:He said crack, not ganja.... big difference.

  
• vball10set

  believer;1649605 wrote:

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• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  sleeper;1649408 wrote:Only in South Bend is a 17 point win not a blowout. A 17 point loss by ND is a "close game that was in doubt". This ain't ND bro, this is OHIO STATE.

  All your ND jokes aside, that was a solid win, but no blowout. Your prediction of OSU wiping the field with Navy was wrong.
• believer

  

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1649684 wrote:All your ND jokes aside, that was a solid win, but no blowout. Your prediction of OSU wiping the field with Navy was wrong.

  Never argue with sleeper. The sooner you learn that even when he's wrong he's always right, the sooner you'll stop beating your head on a rock.
• Tiernan

  A "blowout" requires a minimum of 3 TD margin win and one of those TDs can't be scored on the final 5 min. of regulation. Sleeper has proven 1000x he knows nothing about college football...make it 1001.
• thavoice

  17 can be a blowout....if you are playing someone that is good and the spread is like within a TD maybe.
  
  I wouldnt say OSU blew out Navy..they just "won going away"
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  My thoughts on the game.
  
  QB - Still not sold on J.T. Barrett. I thought he looked ok for a R-Fr, but then again the playbook was very vanilla. The INT was AWFUL (and certainly the definition of a Fr mistake), but stuff like that is to be expected. Better to get it out now, than suffer the very same mistake in a game like Va Tech, Cincy, Penn St, MSU, or Michigan that will actually make you pay for that mistake. His TD pass to Devin Smith was a thing of beauty. Perfectly setup by Tom Herman (in terms of play-calling), but certainly a read that Barrett still had to see & execute, and I was happy to see him underthrow Smith than OVERthrow the ball like Danielson said on the broadcast. One thing's for sure... if we're going to compete this year, Barrett has to progress. Now let's see what he can do vs. Va Tech. (Note: I thought it was very telling that we didn't even see Cardale Jones for one drive.)
  
  RB - Disappointing that Barrett lead all rushers in rushing. I would rather see our top running back racking up 100+ yards than see three tailbacks with 40-some yards each. I know this is going to sound crazy, but I think having as much depth at RB as we have is actually a detriment than a bonus. We have so many studs at RB that we have to play them, and this prevents any one of them from 'getting into a rhythm'. I think it's obvious our #1 RB is easily Ezekiel Elliott, but I was pleasantly surprised with Curtis Samuel's ability to run the ball up-the-middle, and I thought Jalin Marshall looked solid as well. Even tho Eze is our #1 RB, it was painfully obvious to me that Dontre Wilson is easily our BEST weapon. Out of the entire bunch, he looked the best (IMO). My heart goes out to Rod Smith. It seemed like every time he was sub'd in, he was sub'd out after one play. Call me crazy, but I truly believe that Smith has the tools to be Carlos Hyde-esk. Obviously not quite the same nor am I trying to suggest that they are even remotely on the same level, but it's glaringly obvious to me that the POTENTIAL is there. He just seemed sooo dejected every time he was coming out of there (head held down).
  
  WR - Call me crazy, but Devin Smith's game translates better to the Pros than it does in this Offense. I think Smith will struggle to hit 800 yards receiving in this offense (simply because there are too many weapons and not enough footballs to go around), but I see his game translating VERY well to the next level. IMO, he has the down-field-speed to get open at the next level; he has the soft hands to catch most of what's thrown at him; and I believe he runs some pretty nice routes (relatively speaking). Unfortunately, there's just too many weapons who will require touches, thus limiting Smith from getting the # of touches he truly needs to be a 1,000 yard receive (IMO). Dontre Wilson, again, as stated above, was (to me) obviously our #1 weapon. I was happy to see Michael Thomas lead the way in REC. I do believe that he's our best 'pure receiver'. Guy has the hands, speed, size, and swagger of a top-tier receiver; just needs to put it all together. Evan Spencer - while I like his seniority/leadership... he's 'JAG' (just a guy).
  
  TE - Jeff Heuerman has the talent to be a nice TE, but with so many weapons and knowing how Meyer/Herman like to utilize the speed guys, I just don't see Heuerman having a big year. Would love to utilize him more (as I think he could be a real mismatch for defenses), but I just don't see it happening. Nick Vannett - not sure I even saw/noticed him once.
  
  OL - The OL was a HUGE disappointment. They did not control the LOS like I thought they should have. Granted they kinda took over control late in the game and started having better luck, but I was severely disappointed with the play of this group, especially Elflein (perhaps my expectations for him were just too high based off of his brief success last season). Decker didn't do anything one way or the other, so I'll say he actually looked OK. Did Chad Lindsay even play?
  
  DL - Mixed emotions here. I thought Bennett and Washington looked AMAZING (Bosa looked pretty good too, especially when it looked to me like Navy was scheming/running AWAY from him), but I thought Steve Miller looked awful(Rashad Frazier looked better than Miller, IMO) and I was disappointed we gave up as many yards as we did. I knew Navy was going to come out there and run their option/gimmicky offense... and I knew they were going to put up yards, but I was NOT expecting them to control/run over us like they did. I'm in favor of Frazier starting over Miller for Va Tech.
  
  LB - I thought Curtis Grant looked surprisingly alright for once. Still don't think he's put it all together yet, but he did look improved (which is good). Darron Lee looked like our most physically gifted LB out there. Looks like the hype re: Lee this off-season might be real. IMO, Joshua Perry was quiet. I don't recall seeing him much / him imposing his will on the game. Another pleasant surprise was seeing Chris Worley get the time/action that he got, and I thought he looked good too when he was in there. Maybe it was just me, but I didn't see McMillan or Booker at all at LB. Not seeing McMillan there was a disappointment (for me); but probably about expected.
  
  CB / S - It wouldn't even be fair to attempt to grade this unit, as there was a whole whopping 4 passing attempts. I think Tyvis Powell looked great. He was all over the field. Granted he missed a couple tackles (tackling in general for the team was very poor - Florida-esk - and NEEDS to improve IMMEDIATELY), but I thought he looked great. He was everywhere and constantly around the football. Doran Grant was a ghost, but (1) that's what you want as a CB and (2) Navy only attempted 4 passes, so naturally he was going to be a ghost. I saw Bell a handful of times, and I heard Burrows was getting equal # of snaps with Bell. Didn't really notice Conley/Apple.
  
  P - We might very well have the best punter in the nation, in Cameron Johnston. Love this kid.
  
  K - Nuernberger looked alright.
• sleeper

  

  Agreed with the above post. Darron Lee is a beast and IMO our best LB. Hard to grade the line since Navy basically ran away from them the entire game so I'll have more concrete opinions after the next game.
  
  Agreed on the Punter; he looked solid.
• Terry_Tate

  

  Nuernberger looked alright? Dude drilled a 46 yarder down the pipe with room to spare, lol. Looked pretty darn good, especially for a true freshman.
  
  And maybe it's just me but Devin Smith is pretty underwhelming. He catches the long ball but as an overall receiver I don't see him making the NFL at all. He'll have good career stats after this year but I feel like that's more due to the fact that Ohio States WRs haven't been very good the last 4 years than it is his talent. He has this year to prove me wrong though and I'd certainly welcome that.
• Heretic

  

  Terry_Tate;1650034 wrote:Nuernberger looked alright? Dude drilled a 46 yarder down the pipe with room to spare, lol. Looked pretty darn good, especially for a true freshman.
  
  And maybe it's just me but Devin Smith is pretty underwhelming. He catches the long ball but as an overall receiver I don't see him making the NFL at all. He'll have good career stats after this year but I feel like that's more due to the fact that Ohio States WRs haven't been very good the last 4 years than it is his talent. He has this year to prove me wrong though and I'd certainly welcome that.

  Agree with all of this.
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  Terry_Tate;1650034 wrote:Nuernberger looked alright? Dude drilled a 46 yarder down the pipe with room to spare, lol. Looked pretty darn good, especially for a true freshman.
  
  And maybe it's just me but Devin Smith is pretty underwhelming. He catches the long ball but as an overall receiver I don't see him making the NFL at all. He'll have good career stats after this year but I feel like that's more due to the fact that Ohio States WRs haven't been very good the last 4 years than it is his talent. He has this year to prove me wrong though and I'd certainly welcome that.

  Believe me, by saying "Nuernberger looked alright" was certainly not me trying to take a stab/slight at him. I suppose I could have chosen a better adjective than "alright". I probably should have chosen "good".
  
  As for the Devin Smith comment(s)... What I was trying to say is... I could easily see Devin Smith nabbing only 600-800 yards this season, but I could also see Smith landing in the NFL and having a season or two where he hauls in 800-1000 yards. His game is better suited for the pros than for this offense, is what I was trying to say.
• Con_Alma

  Episode 1 of this year's video series. Navy vs. Ohio State
  
  [video=vimeo;105237825][/video]
• Classyposter58

  

  I was pretty underwhelmed at the crowd, I figured this was going to be a major game with a sold out neutral site. Thank god OSU travels so well or the place would have been a cavern. Probably could have scalped tickets for real cheap
• Con_Alma

  It's a school of 4500 students with most recent alumni some 20 years out still deployed around the world. It's pretty tough to have them actually attend games purely due to the logistics of the situation.
• thavoice

  Con_Alma;1650737 wrote:It's a school of 4500 students with most recent alumni some 20 years out still deployed around the world. It's pretty tough to have them actually attend games purely due to the logistics of the situation.

  True.
  
  and to be honest....Navy isnt #1 in alot of people's minds in terms of a sports team....more like a secondary team they follow and may not be as compelled to make arrangements to travel and attend games.
• Con_Alma

  That's probably true. I would say, however for both the Army and Bowl games a lot of donations come in to enable enlisted personnel to attend. That's a once a year or even a once every couple years type opportunity for those folks.
• Terry_Tate

  

  SB, you can say whatever you want about Nuernberger this week and I won't argue, lol.
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  Terry_Tate;1651162 wrote:SB, you can say whatever you want about Nuernberger this week and I won't argue, lol.

  Reps for being a man.