Can Terrelle Pryor have a "Vince Young" type performance in the Rose Bowl?

• mallymal614

  Okay now let's compared Pryor performance tonight to Young's first Rose Bowl appearance.
  
  Vince Young vs. Michigan, 2005 Rose Bowl - 180 yards passing, 192 yards rushing, 5 touchdowns
  
  Terrelle Pryor vs. Oregon, 2010 Rose Bowl - 266 yards passing, 72 yards rushing, 2 touchdowns.
  
  If you add the passing and rushing yards together for each players, there is only a 34 yards difference. Maybe it's not quite the performance Young had, but this was by far Pryor's best game. Vince Young carried the momentum of his performance on to the next season as Texas won the National Championship and he finished second in the Heisman. Hopefully similar success can happen for Pryor and the buckeyes in the 2010 season.
• Quint

  

  Young was also a 3rd year player in that Rose Bowl.
• mallymal614

  Quint wrote: Young was also a 3rd year player in that Rose Bowl.

  Great point! Many people forget that Young redshirted at Texas. Pryor is a true Sophomore.
• centralbucksfan

  Not quite Vince Young like yet. But Young was also a 4th year junior when beating USC and having that game.
  But still a GREAT GAME today by Pryor. More total yards then the entire Oregon team. After all he has taken from the media and many OSU fans, I am sure this is very gratifying to him and Tres. Pryor made some great plays down the stretch to get this win at key times in the game.
  I hope this was his "coming out" party!!
  And kudos to Tressel for coming out with a great game plan and opening it up as Oregon stacked the line.
  And what can you say about the OSU defense. They bent a bit, but stayed solid and made plays when they needed to. They were the foundation to this successful season. Lets hope Gibson and Heyward return. If they do, this defense next year could be even better!
  Go Bucks!!
• darbypitcher22

  

  Not VY yet, like others have said but he definately grew up today. Hopefully the Bucks follow this model. Having Duron Carter in the fold(hopefully Washington stays, he blocked great on the edge), we could be real dangerous next year
• jordo212000

  

  Looks like a few of us were right about what Ohio State had to do. There was no way they were going to be able to run for 230+ rushing yards. They definitely had to open it up because Oregon was stacking the box b/c up until tonight TP really hadn't proven he could win a game with his arm
• darbypitcher22

  

  we got it done, that's all that matters. TP goes for 338 after their D Coordinator basically called him a shitty QB all week and some of his DB's got abused trying to tackle him
• jordo212000

  

  darbypitcher22 wrote: we got it done, that's all that matters. TP goes for 338 after their D Coordinator basically called him a shitty QB all week and some of his DB's got abused trying to tackle him

  Didn't hear any of that. Certainly out of bounds if he was doing that. But hey, its the nature of the beast. If you play poorly, you're going to get some crap for it. TP shut him up though.
• darbypitcher22

  

  he did but he didn't. Kept saying he wanted to challenge him every way possible because he didn't think he had the skills from watching the film(and other players said it too).
• gerb131

  

  He looked great today and for the first time since he got to C-Bus he looked happy which is good. He will be a man next year.
• jordo212000

  

  Big Gain wrote: Just proves how stupid the vast majority of know nothing supposed Ohio State fans on here know.

  Like you?
  
  During the post game presser Tressel said "we felt like we had to have a more balanced approach"
  
  You were the one calling some of us out when we had similar opinions earlier this week
• BCSbunk

  trep14 wrote:

  Big Gain wrote:

  jordo212000 wrote:

  Big Gain wrote:
  WHY??? What the hell is "other things"?

  Well haha. Other things would be passing the ball using creative play calling. Something we Buckeye fans haven't seen in a while.
  
  As to the "why," it is unrealistic to walk into the Rose Bowl expecting to run for 230+ yds. As I said before the Buckeyes have the benefit of playing in a horrible conference. That kind of play calling only works against the Barney Fifes of the Big 10 IMO. Indiana isn't walking through that door January 1st.
  
  A team like Oregon should be able to stop the 3-4 running plays that Ohio State likes to use. Therefore IMO Ohio State needs to be able to throw the ball a little to win. Not saying TP has to throw for 300 yds, but he definitely needs to be prepared to as Oregon has a pretty high octane offense. Which leads to my next point. What if Oregon busts out quickly to a 14-0 lead. Do you still expect to run the ball 40 times?

  Ohio State doesn't "throw the ball a little"?
  
  What is "creative play calling"?
  
  Ohio State is playing a PAC 10 team not a SEC team.
  
  Indiana??? Don't be ignorant. Ohio State rushed for over 225 yards against the 10th and 13th ranked teams in the country. Better teams than anyone the PAC 10 has to offer other than #7 Oregon.
  
  Ohio State fans of your ilk are blind and forgetful. You forget about the important passes Pryor completes. The long TD pass against Penn State on 1st down. The two 22 yard passes against Iowa to keep drives moving. Pryor doesn't need to complete many passes like that, when your team has 10 rushing plays of over 10+ yards.
  What's the difference if you have a 20 yard running play or a 20 yard pass play??? What makes you think Oregon's pass defense isn't better than their rush defense?
  
  BTW, you have heard that Ohio State will be without their#3 and #4 receivers? You're right, Ohio State should pass more with their #5 and #6 receivers on the field.
  
  If Stanford can rush for 254 yards against Oregon why can't Ohio State??
  
  What team in the PAC 10 has a better defense than Ohio State's?
  
  If Ohio State's defense plays terrible and ALLOWS Oregon to "bust out" to a 14 point lead, then Ohio State is not going to win, regardless of how many "creative" passes Pryor throws. Surely you aren't such a fool to think Ohio State wins a pass happy shoot out with Oregon.
  
  It is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to change a team's personality after 12 games. A personality that was a winning formula. A personality that got them to the Rose Bowl. For Ohio State to win their defense must control the Oregon offense and Ohio State's offense must rush the ball effectively, with a few passes throw in to keep the Oregon defense honest.
  
  Barney Fifes like you need to do a little research. If you were knowledgeable you wouldn't say the Big Ten is "over matched" by the PAC 10.
  
  Oregon has a 10-2 record. No other team in the PAC 10 Ten has a record better than 8-4.
  The Big Ten's top 3 teams finished 8th, 10th and 13th in the BCS.
  The PAC 10's top 3 teams finished 7th 18th and 20th in the BCS.
  Good Lord USC finished 5th in the PAC 10 this year!!
  The Big Ten has 4 teams with better records than the 2nd place team in the PAC 10.
  Oregon beat the 7th place team in the Big Ten by only 2 points.
  Oregon State, 2nd in the PAC 10, who Oregon beat by 4 points to win the PAC 10, lost to BYU 44-20 in the MAACO Bowl.
  
  Barney, the PAC 10 is obviously more "horrible" than the Big Ten.

  The fact that the fifth place PAC ten team walked in to the Horseshoe and beat the Buckeyes with a freshman qb making his second start ever tells me everything I need to know about the Big Ten versus the Pac Ten.
  
  You hit the nail on the head about it being impossible to change a teams personality after twelve games, and that is precisely my problem with Jim Tressel and the Big Ten. A refusal to adapt to the changing world of college football...the OOC results speak for themselves....
  Jordo said it best, TP will have to make plays in this game. OSU may very well run for 200+ yards, but they can't expect to do it to a fault, the coaching staff has to be willing to try something else if the running game isn't working. Here is to hoping that Chip Kelly bangs Mrs. Tressel and that leads to an aggressive Jim Tressel unleashing his pent up frustration with some aggressive play-calling against Oregon.

  Here is the fail post of the thread LMAO!
• centralbucksfan

  jordo212000 wrote:

  darbypitcher22 wrote: we got it done, that's all that matters. TP goes for 338 after their D Coordinator basically called him a shitty QB all week and some of his DB's got abused trying to tackle him

  Didn't hear any of that. Certainly out of bounds if he was doing that. But hey, its the nature of the beast. If you play poorly, you're going to get some crap for it. TP shut him up though.

  HE didn't directly say that. But he and te Oregon defense had NO respect for OSU/Pryor and that was very obvious going into this game.
  Their head coach is very arrogant as well. Comment before the game that OSU couldn't prepare for what Oregon has on offense in 2 weeks.
  Oregon was one of the cockiest teams I have heard and seen in a long while. Talking trash in the field, antics every time they made a play. I wasn't too impressed with how they portrayed themselves.
• jordo212000

  

  BCSbunk wrote:
  Here is the fail post of the thread LMAO!

  which one is the "fail post"
• osu99

  he wasn't VY but don't tell that to Oregon fans.
• hoops23

  

  Told you guys the offense would be much more like the 2006 version.
• Big Gain

  LTrain23 wrote: Told you guys the offense would be much more like the 2006 version.

  Thanks to Oregon putting 9 in the box and never making any adjustments.
• darbypitcher22

  

  ^^^^
  
  This. We could have run to the edge all night if we would have decided to
• jordo212000

  

  Big Gain wrote:
  Thanks to Oregon putting 9 in the box and never making any adjustments.

  Haha that's what me and Trep were saying all along. You'd have to be dense to think that Oregon WASN'T going to stack the box. Anybody could tell you that Ohio St has been winning due to their ability to run the football (and *cough* not have TP throw the ball). Thus Oregon's gameplan wasn't difficult to guess. Stop the run, force TP to win it. And he did.
• DaBrowns41

  You know, Oregon failed big time on trying to get pressure on Prior. They have no idea on how to hide a blitz, and even a QB who struggles to read defenses, Prior could tell they were going to blitz 6-7 games and he needed to get the ball out quickly. I think that was one thing that hurt Oregon badly.
• hoops23

  

  Big Gain wrote:

  LTrain23 wrote: Told you guys the offense would be much more like the 2006 version.

  Thanks to Oregon putting 9 in the box and never making any adjustments.

  jordo212000 wrote:

  Big Gain wrote:
  Thanks to Oregon putting 9 in the box and never making any adjustments.

  Haha that's what me and Trep were saying all along. You'd have to be dense to think that Oregon WASN'T going to stack the box. Anybody could tell you that Ohio St has been winning due to their ability to run the football (and *cough* not have TP throw the ball). Thus Oregon's gameplan wasn't difficult to guess. Stop the run, force TP to win it. And he did.

  
  Not really. OSU started the game off by throwing. They didn't even have time to see what Oregon was doing defensively before opening up the playbook..
  
  It's so obvious to me and most other Buckeye fans that Oregon was going to bite on the "conservative" playcalling style and Tressel gameplanned around that. This is why I said we'd see a more similar offense to the '06 Buckeyes.
  
  Pryor executed it nearly flawlessly. His only mistake was a deep ball that was picked off, but other than that he had a GREAT day leading this team to victory.
  
  What's funny is, even after this performance, a lot of Buckeye fans are still not willing to give him props. These are probably the same Buckeye fans who have been on his case all year and can't admit they were wrong about this guy...
  
  Remember the guys calling for Bauserman to replace TP after the Purdue game?? smh...
  
  It seems a lot of you are trying to over analyze this game a bit, and in the midst of that, are looking kind of foolish.
  
  Just take this game for what it was.. A BIG win over a the Pac10 champs and going along way to getting the respect back from the BCS perspective of things. Let's face it, a lot of people felt the Bucks would get creamed.
• darbypitcher22

  

  the deep ball that was picked off wasn't a bad ball, he just underthrew it and threw it a little late. Add that to the fact that Herron is wide open in the middle of the field with nobody within 20 yards of him adn that looks bad.
• rock_knutne

  PLEASE.......Tyrelle Pryor STINKS! He was aided by MANY BOGUS calls. The Big 12 officials gave them the game........the face masking penalty in the first half was a joke!
• DaBrowns41

  rock_knutne wrote: PLEASE.......Tyrelle Pryor STINKS! He was aided by MANY BOGUS calls. The Big 12 officials gave them the game........the face masking penalty in the first half was a joke!

  527 posts, and still nothing of useful information. It's really too bad.
  
  It's almost as bad as my girlfriends UC friend that posted on her facebook that the refs were giving UF the game (the post was made at halftime when UF was up 30-3).
• rock_knutne

  DaBrowns41 wrote:

  rock_knutne wrote: PLEASE.......Tyrelle Pryor STINKS! He was aided by MANY BOGUS calls. The Big 12 officials gave them the game........the face masking penalty in the first half was a joke!

  527 posts, and still nothing of useful information. It's really too bad.
  
  It's almost as bad as my girlfriends UC friend that posted on her facebook that the refs were giving UF the game (the post was made at halftime when UF was up 30-3).

  
  Go to hell ass hole!!!!! You were gifted that game....but hey, live it up! And I have something very usefull for a fool like you, but you couldn't handle it!