Heisman trophy 2012

• imex99

  

  Who's your leader so far and who do you think will win?
  
  Geno Smith is the current leader but if Braxton continues, he'll get invited to NYC.
  
  
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/08/heisman-trophy-survey-geno-smith-braxton-miller/1620569/
  
  
  
• sleeper

  

  Carlos Hyde.
• vball10set

  Too early to tell, but at this point in the season, it's pretty hard to argue with the five listed here.
• gorocks99

  

  It's Geno Smith's to lose, the numbers are insane right now from him and WVU is ranked way high. If they start to lose games his star will fade (how much depends on his performance in those losses), but there's just no way Smith isn't number one at this juncture.
• jhay78

  

  It's Geno Smith's to lose right now. Would love to see Braxton there though.
• FatHobbit

  

  Braxton Miller
  
  2011
  12 games
  85/157 54% 1159 yards 13 tds and 4 ints.
  159 rushing attempts for 715 yards and 7 tds
  
  2012
  6 games
  83/135 61% 1060 yards 9 td and 3 ints
  106 rushing attempts for 763 yards and 8 tds
• Automatik

  

  I'm pulling for Geno to win it. I think he's on the verge of making himself a lot of money in the NFL....dude is legit.
  
  I'll be happy with an invite for Miller. Just think...barring injury we have him for two more years. :thumbup:
• FatHobbit

  

  Just for kicks
  
  Denard Robinson
  2012
  6 games
  62/115 53% 942 yards 7 tds and 8 ints
  90 rushings attempts for 676 yards and 4 tds
  
  2011
  13 games
  142/258 55% 2173 yards 20 tds and 15 ints
  221 rushing attempts for 1176 yards and 16 tds
  
  2010
  12 games
  182/291 62% 2570 yards 18 tds and 11 ints
  256 rushing attempts for 1702 yards and 14 tds
• vball10set

  Automatik;1290527 wrote:I'm pulling for Geno to win it. I think he's on the verge of making himself a lot of money in the NFL....dude is legit.

  Do you think his talent translates well to an NFL QB, or do you think he'd get drafted as an athlete?
• Automatik

  

  vball10set;1290546 wrote:Do you think his talent translates well to an NFL QB, or do you think he'd get drafted as an athlete?

  QB for sure. IMO I think he's got what it takes to make it in the NFL....mentally, physically, mechanics, etc.
  
  I've watched almost all of WVU's game so far this season and he's just as good, or better than Barkley. I know he hasn't faced any defenses worth a damn, but on several occasions I've thought "wow, that was one hell of a throw." It seems like he can drop it in from anywhere on the field.
  
  Nice read on the "Air Raid" offense and his mental preparation.
  http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--geno-smith-becomes-air-raid-s-greatest-disciple--ndash--and-college-football.html
• Classyposter58

  

  IMO Lattimore will get there eventually. Wasn't it a few years ago they only invited 3 people?
• vball10set

  ^^^Thanks, Automatik, 'cause I really haven't watched an entire WVU game so I really didn't have an opinion either way (other than his seeing his crazy stats). Sounds like I'll have to check one out soon.
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1290554 wrote:QB for sure. IMO I think he's got what it takes to make it in the NFL....mentally, physically, mechanics, etc.
  
  I've watched almost all of WVU's game so far this season and he's just as good, or better than Barkley. I know he hasn't faced any defenses worth a damn, but on several occasions I've thought "wow, that was one hell of a throw." It seems like he can drop it in from anywhere on the field.
  
  Nice read on the "Air Raid" offense and his mental preparation.
  http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--geno-smith-becomes-air-raid-s-greatest-disciple--ndash--and-college-football.html

  Geno is a good player but his mechanics are terrible. I mean I don't know a lot about football but his release seems to be too slow for the NFL.
• FatHobbit

  

  Classyposter58;1290558 wrote:Wasn't it a few years ago they only invited 3 people?

  I think they invite people based on how many votes they get. So if fourth place isn't even close they don't get an invite.
• Crimson streak

  

  sleeper;1290573 wrote:Geno is a good player but his mechanics are terrible. I mean I don't know a lot about football but his release seems to be too slow for the NFL.

  
  Agreed that's why I think he's gonna be a bust
• Automatik

  

  Terrible mechanics?
  
  [video=youtube;OhGkRA4b32Q][/video]
  
  While he doesn't have that crazy quick release, I think he'll be ok.
• sleeper

  

  I didn't stutter. He has terrible mechanics.
• Tiernan

  I heard Jon Gruden talking about how he is ready for the NFL now. Lets see sleeper or "Chuckie" for an opinion on whether a QB can play in the NFL?
  
  
  
  and I hate supporting Automatik on anything.
• vball10set

  If ever there was a year for a defensive player to win it, it's this year. I don't think Smith's going to keep up these video game stats, and OSU's post season ban status will hurt Miller, regardless of what people say. I think Te'o has as good a shot as anyone right now.
• se-alum

  

  I think Smith's mechanics are fine. He can make every throw. I think his NFL success will hinge on the mental aspect.
• Sonofanump

  Best NCAA QB, yes. NFL ready, no. He has the arm, but the arm angle is typical for lofting throws against Big12 defenses. Should be an easy fix. He looks like a top 5, if not top 3 pick right now.
• cats gone wild

  sleeper;1290573 wrote: I mean I don't know a lot about football

  We all know that.
  

  vball10set;1290648 wrote:If ever there was a year for a defensive player to win it, it's this year. I think Te'o has as good a shot as anyone right now.

  A defensive player has no chance. TM7 was a human highlight reel last year and he couldnt crack the top 2.
• vball10set

  cats gone wild;1290864 wrote:A defensive player has no chance. TM7 was a human highlight reel last year and he couldnt crack the top 2.

  Whether you care to admit it or not, an ND defensive player has a helluva lot better chance of winning the Heisman than a player from LSU, especially when comparing Te'o and Mathieu...just sayin'
• se-alum

  

  vball10set;1290911 wrote:Whether you care to admit it or not, an ND defensive player has a helluva lot better chance of winning the Heisman than a player from LSU, especially when comparing Te'o and Mathieu...just sayin'

  Yea, Mathieu's off the field issues were a guarantee he wouldn't sniff a Heisman.
• Fly4Fun

  

  vball10set;1290911 wrote:Whether you care to admit it or not, an ND defensive player has a helluva lot better chance of winning the Heisman than a player from LSU, especially when comparing Te'o and Mathieu...just sayin'

  Based on what? Tradition... shouldn't factor into Heisman voting as you are voting for a player, not a school (but it probably does factor in a bit to be honest). Exposure? I'm pretty sure Mathieu had plenty of that as he was a phenomenon and everyone who pays attention to college football knew of him.
  
  Quality of Character/Integrity? Based upon Mathieu's past and apparent lack of a bad one from Te'o, he does have a huge edge in this category.
  
  Also, I love how quickly the Barkley campaign fell apart... putting up Billboards before the season even started. It's one thing for an athlete to do well on the field then the school/fans push his name late in the season. It's another to put up billboards before the season starts.