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PSU ruling

  • said_aouita
    $60 million in fines
    Banned from bowl games four years
    psu scholarships down to 15 for four years
    Allowing athletes to transfer w.o penalty
    1998-2011 all wins forfeited

    Plus an athletic integrity agreement and additional monitoring for five years.

    (don't believe I missed anything?)
  • gorocks99
    That's it.

    They got nuked. No one will play there.
  • IggyPride00
    This was worse than the death penalty.
  • OneBuckeye
    I don't think so. It's a slap on the wrist. They won't be relevant for a little while, but they will still be there.
  • RedRider1
    So when does free agency begin for these soon to be former PSU players?
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Watching it, sounds fair. The bowl ban is a bit short IMO, but the rest of the sanctions have teeth.
  • OneBuckeye
    RedRider1;1231437 wrote:So when does free agency begin for these soon to be former PSU players?
    Any offensive linemen are welcome at Ohio State. :)
  • derek bomar
    they're going to suck for a while.
  • Glassy
    derek bomar;1231449 wrote:they're going to suck for a while.
    The NCAA hit Ped State from every direction with these fines/sanctions. They just absolutely crippled their football program. De-commitments have already begun from potential players and there will be quite a few current players transfer without penalty. Why would you want to go there if you cant play in post season games your entire career?

    Loss of scholarships will go hand in hand with the post season ban. Basically the ones that stay will play. Wont be much talent coming through the door for the next 3-4 years to replace the players that stick with Ped State.

    I see this crippling the program for at least the next 7-8 years.
  • LJ
    @John_Infante
    To clear up scholarship penalties: Penn State can bring in 15 new scholarship recruits/year & have 65 total on scholarship for four years

    80 total schollies lost over 4 years
  • OneBuckeye
    Additionally, the NCAA is considering waiving scholarship limits for programs to which these football student-athletes transfer, provided they reduce proportionately in the next year. For example, the limit is 25 new scholarships per year to a total of 85 scholarships. If the limits are waived in 2012-13 to accommodate one Penn State student-athlete who wishes to transfer to a particular school already at the limits, in 2013-14 the school will be limited to 24 new scholarships and 84 total scholarships
    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/20120723/21207234
  • OneBuckeye
    LJ;1231463 wrote:@John_Infante
    To clear up scholarship penalties: Penn State can bring in 15 new scholarship recruits/year & have 65 total on scholarship for four years

    80 total schollies lost over 4 years
    That is a killer... I thought it was 85-10=75.
  • se-alum
    It will take at least 10 years for PSU to recover from this.
  • Glory Days
    I think they punished the football program too much and the university as a whole not enough. having worked for a university, its the culture and attitude of the administration that causes these problems. should the football program have been punished to a degree, yes. but without punishing the big whigs who run the school and make the decisions, their attitudes will not have changed. i think they focused too much on the football program. the administration is probably so full of themselves that they think they dodged a bullet here.

    maybe i am just underestimating the snowball effect this will have on the school.
  • OneBuckeye
    Since the NCAA is an athletic organization they can't penalize the university. The federal government will take care of that part.
  • Fly4Fun
    Glory Days,

    The problem with your assessment is the NCAA is the National Collegiate Athletic Association. Their power is limited to sports programs. They have absolutely no authority over the actual University. The closest they can get to punishing the University is with fines.
  • superman
    3rd string players at Alabama are the real losers here.
  • OneBuckeye
    superman;1231479 wrote:3rd string players at Alabama are the real losers here.
    Right, they just got cut. Saban is clearing space.
  • Fly4Fun
    Why would Saban want slower players from the Big10?
  • sanitizer
    After considering how much thought went into this punishment, it seems and feels "right". I thought this was a fair punishment. But I can't help finding myself asking "60 million"??? Where does that money go? To the NCAA?? Too bad that money can't go to the victims or be used to start a NACAA funded counseling program for young abused kids or something. This program is crippled for a while, I do feel its fair to give current and incoming players the ability to transfer without penalty. Should be interesting to see how that plays out as well. Just a sad week in general with the colorado thing and this news.
  • gorocks99
    sanitizer;1231491 wrote:After considering how much thought went into this punishment, it seems and feels "right". I thought this was a fair punishment. But I can't help finding myself asking "60 million"??? Where does that money go? To the NCAA?? Too bad that money can't go to the victims or be used to start a NACAA funded counseling program for young abused kids or something. This program is crippled for a while, I do feel its fair to give current and incoming players the ability to transfer without penalty. Should be interesting to see how that plays out as well. Just a sad week in general with the colorado thing and this news.
    The $60m is going to an endowment for "external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university."
  • vball10set
    Yup, you're #1 now, Bobby :thumbup:

  • Fly4Fun
    Anyone else feel it is wrong that both coaches had wins vacated late in their careers as both were just trying to outlast the other. Did they forsake their morals for the purposes of a record(s) or pride?
  • OneBuckeye
    Fly4Fun;1231500 wrote:Anyone else feel it is wrong that both coaches had wins vacated late in their careers as both were just trying to outlast the other. Did they forsake their morals for the purposes of a record(s) or pride?
    Yes, without a doubt.
  • ts1227
    Fly4Fun;1231500 wrote:Anyone else feel it is wrong that both coaches had wins vacated late in their careers as both were just trying to outlast the other. Did they forsake their morals for the purposes of a record(s) or pride?

    Paterno had forsaken his morals before he was even close to the record, if this all started in 98