OSU vs MSU

• centralbucksfan

  SportsAndLady;1083740 wrote:Yeah but you wouldn't say "they are capable of beating any team in the country" about every team in the country.
  
  I think Kentucky could beat any team in the country...wins vs UNC, and neutral vs Kansas
  
  Not really too sure on Syracuse just because they haven't really gotten the chance against elite opponents. But 25-1 is 25-1.
  
  Kansas I think can beat anyone in the country...wins neutral vs Georgetown, Ohio State, @ Baylor
  
  Missouri...home vs Kansas, @ Baylor
  
  Not sold on UNC or Duke

  So Georgetown is legit? But Florida is overrated? Come on. GT is sitting in a conference where ND is in second place! And yes, I can say OSU could beat any team in the country on any given day on a nuetral court. I have no problem saying that at all. They have the talent, no question. I have no problem saying that about a number of teams.
  And I wouldn't go hanging your hat on KU over OSU when Sullinger didn't play in that game. Nor do I look at that loss for OSU as anything. The NCAA committee will probably not even look at that game. Nor do I think UK win over KU was that significant as KU wasn't playing worth a crap early on.
  And Baylor has been swept by both KU and Mizzou. So how good are they? Very questionable IMO. Certainly NO better than Duke or Florida IMO.
  Sorry, you question teams like Duke and Florida, yet you try to legitimize GT and Baylor? Not buying that.
  
  So, you can easily play the woulda, coulda, shoulda about this team and that team right now. And that can change within a weeks time!
  
  Personally, I see UK and 'Cuse as the two best teams in the country at this point in time. I think they have seperated themselves from the rest of the pack. After that, I think there could be 5-7 other teams that are all bunched together.
• SportsAndLady

  

  centralbucksfan;1083753 wrote:So Georgetown is legit? But Florida is overrated? Come on. GT is sitting in a conference where ND is in second place! And yes, I can say OSU could beat any team in the country on any given day on a nuetral court. I have no problem saying that at all. They have the talent, no question. I have no problem saying that about a number of teams.
  And I wouldn't go hanging your hat on KU over OSU when Sullinger didn't play in that game. Nor do I look at that loss for OSU as anything. The NCAA committee will probably not even look at that game. Nor do I think UK win over KU was that significant as KU wasn't playing worth a crap early on.
  And Baylor has been swept by both KU and Mizzou. So how good are they? Very questionable IMO. Certainly NO better than Duke or Florida IMO.
  Sorry, you question teams like Duke and Florida, yet you try to legitimize GT and Baylor? Not buying that.
  
  So, you can easily play the woulda, coulda, shoulda about this team and that team right now. And that can change within a weeks time!
  
  Personally, I see UK and 'Cuse as the two best teams in the country at this point in time. I think they have seperated themselves from the rest of the pack. After that, I think there could be 5-7 other teams that are all bunched together.

  You don't think Georgetown is good? I think they're very good, wins on a neutral court against Memphis, @ Louisville, @ Alabama, OT loss @ Syracuse.
  
  Florida is definitely overrated..who have they beaten? I"m not sure they have one good win..maybe at home against Mississippi State as their best win? come the fuck on...losses to @ Tenn and home against Tenn, @ Rutgers..yikes
  
  Baylor got swept by both KU and Mizzou, but they're still extremely talented. Just bad coaching, imo. They can get hot and beat anyone, imo. But winning @ Baylor by 20 is certainly more impressive than beating Florida or Duke at home by double digits.
  
  I don't have a problem saying that OSU can beat anyone on a neutral court at anytime..but don't say it because of how they've played and who they've beaten this year...because the ONLY legitimate way to make that claim is to simply say they have the talent (which they do) and they'll peak at the right time.
• ytownfootball

  

  A lot of over reaction to a piss poor 26% shooting effort.
  
  Our biggest problem remains a lack of deep threat that opens up the middle allowing Sully to have a little space and be able to utilize what he does best. We're easy to defend without having to stretch the D. Seems simple enough.
  
  Memphis, @ Louisville, @ Alabama, OT loss @ Syracuse:huh:
• lhslep134

  

  I separate it like this
  
  Final Four Candidates (no particular order):
  Missouri
  Kansas
  Kentucky
  North Carolina
  Duke (if Rivers can make up for the other holes on this team)
  Syracuse
  Ohio State
  Michigan State
  
  Elite 8 Candidates:
  Baylor
  Florida
  UNLV
  Georgtown
  
  The reason I grouped them that way is that I don't feel there's a truly dominant team because there's so many good ones this year. I think any of my final four candidates could get hot and run the table in March. Just my opinion obviously.
• centralbucksfan

  ytownfootball;1083767 wrote:A lot of over reaction to a piss poor 26% shooting effort.
  
  Our biggest problem remains a lack of deep threat that opens up the middle allowing Sully to have a little space and be able to utilize what he does best. We're easy to defend without having to stretch the D. Seems simple enough.
  
  Memphis, @ Louisville, @ Alabama, OT loss @ Syracuse:huh:

  Agree. Games like this happen. Little disappointing it was a home loss. But hell, UNC was drilled by 30+. Its forgotten already. Good teams move on. OSU has to get ready for Minny in Tues.
• wildcats20

  

  centralbucksfan;1083771 wrote:Agree. Games like this happen. Little disappointing it was a home loss. But hell, UNC was drilled by 30+. Its forgotten already. Good teams move on. OSU has to get ready for Minny in Tues.

  Until you brought it up lol
• centralbucksfan

  SportsAndLady;1083766 wrote:You don't think Georgetown is good? I think they're very good, wins on a neutral court against Memphis, @ Louisville, @ Alabama, OT loss @ Syracuse.
  
  Florida is definitely overrated..who have they beaten? I"m not sure they have one good win..maybe at home against Mississippi State as their best win? come the **** on...losses to @ Tenn and home against Tenn, @ Rutgers..yikes
  
  Baylor got swept by both KU and Mizzou, but they're still extremely talented. Just bad coaching, imo. They can get hot and beat anyone, imo. But winning @ Baylor by 20 is certainly more impressive than beating Florida or Duke at home by double digits.
  
  I don't have a problem saying that OSU can beat anyone on a neutral court at anytime..but don't say it because of how they've played and who they've beaten this year...because the ONLY legitimate way to make that claim is to simply say they have the talent (which they do) and they'll peak at the right time.

  I didn't say GT wasn't any good. They are what they are, a 5 loss team with losses to unranked teams like WVU, Pitt and UC. They are good. But I wouldn't consider them any better than Florida and not as good as Duke.
• ytownfootball

  

  centralbucksfan;1083771 wrote:Agree. Games like this happen. Little disappointing it was a home loss. But hell, UNC was drilled by 30+. Its forgotten already. Good teams move on. OSU has to get ready for Minny in Tues.

  I guess I'm just not an alarmist like it appears most are. When you look at the losses we've taken, Sully out one game, refs-gone-wild vs IU, one player goes off vs Illi., lasts nights game was really the only loss that can be attributed to a crappy night overall. There aren't many teams that can claim that at this point in the season. Not claiming we'll be fine because I don't know if we will given what I see as our achilles heel, but we're in need of learning how to overcome it one way or another.
• holdingout

  Stail??...Osu is 8-2 their last 10 games. Is that a bad thing??
• holdingout

  ccrunner609;1083637 wrote:They WERE bad at that point. 3 tough games and travel from Hawaii that week.......OSU prolly beat them that day regardless but by a few points. They play at cameron right now, Duke wins 9 out of 10 times. OSU is stail and Duke is hitting on all cylinders.

  Osu is stail??? They are 8-2 in their last 10 games. Is that a bad thing???
• vball10set

  wtf is 'stail' anyway?
• ts1227

  

  ccrunner609;1083579 wrote:No that was the refs.....I blamed K for the loss to Miami last week

  It's OK, the 4 step drives to the basket against UNC (combined with UNC's missed foul shots) evened out that whole refereeing thing.
• GoJPM!

  

  centralbucksfan;1083663 wrote:Exactly. Which means games like yesterday are in fact relevant. Contrary to what others believe.

  At this point, they are a lock for a 1-4 seed, probably a 1 if they win out, 2 or 3 with one more loss.
  
  IMO, the NCAA has made the regular season pointless by awarding the automatic bids to the conference tourney winners which means that a mid-major team, such as Murray State, is far from a lock if they don't win the OVC Tourney. Most of the at-larges are gobbled up by schools from the major conferences with very few left for small conferences. Point is, last night's loss stinks but has little affect on their tourney hopes. They are in and if they are a Final Four or National Title team, they will do it, regardless of their seeding, and if not, then oh well....
• lhslep134

  

  Jay Bilas showing why he's one of my favorite analysts in all of sports.
  
  "The Buckeyes' numbers on both offense and defense are keeping them in position even after a home loss to Michigan State. But the loss shows just how dependent upon William Buford this offense really is. Buford had a tough day against Sparty, and the Buckeyes could not score beyond Jared Sullinger. Ohio State really misses Jon Diebler and David Lighty spreading the floor and making open shots. Sullinger is paying the price with added defenders slowing him down. The Bilas Index will not overreact to the Michigan State loss, keeping the Nuts at No. 3."
• robj55

  

  lhslep134;1084069 wrote:Jay Bilas showing why he's one of my favorite analysts in all of sports.
  
  "The Buckeyes' numbers on both offense and defense are keeping them in position even after a home loss to Michigan State. But the loss shows just how dependent upon William Buford this offense really is. Buford had a tough day against Sparty, and the Buckeyes could not score beyond Jared Sullinger. Ohio State really misses Jon Diebler and David Lighty spreading the floor and making open shots. Sullinger is paying the price with added defenders slowing him down. The Bilas Index will not overreact to the Michigan State loss, keeping the Nuts at No. 3."

  I've said the same thing all year
• hoops23

  

  ccrunner609;1083637 wrote:They WERE bad at that point. 3 tough games and travel from Hawaii that week.......OSU prolly beat them that day regardless but by a few points. They play at cameron right now, Duke wins 9 out of 10 times. OSU is stail and Duke is hitting on all cylinders.

  Firing on all cylinders includes losing to Miami at home? K....
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  It's all going to depend on the match ups when the bracket comes out. Ohio State was the #1 overall seed and had the hardest path to the Final Four last year. Seeding doesn't mean shit. The conference championship means shit but it's not like OSU hasn't won it the last two seasons. This year is about getting to the Final Four and as of right now that's still up for grabs.