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Conference realignment talk

  • SportsAndLady
    I can't find the Big 12 thread, so I've given up on searching and just decided to make another thread.

    The Big 12 expansion committee has a meeting today to talk team #11 and possibly team #12. According to the Houston Chronicle, they are contempt at staying at 11 teams, but that would mean no CCG.

    Louisville is supposed to be the odds on favorite to be #11.

    As for #12, talks of BYU heating up again.

    The Presidents and committee will meet in the first week of February.
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Big 12

    Current members:
    1. Baylor
    2. Iowa State
    3. Kansas
    4. Kansas State
    5. Oklahoma
    6. Oklahoma State
    7. Texas
    8. TCU
    9. Texas Tech
    10. West Virginia
    Possible candidates (current conference):
    • Boise State (Big East)
    • SMU (Big East)
    • Houston (Big East)
    • Louisville (Big East)
    • BYU (Independent)
    • Air Force (Mountain West)
    • Colorado State (Mountain West)
    The pickings are definitely slim. IMO, the Big 12's best bets are Louisville and BYU. I know Boise State and SMU just joined the Big East, but they would make logical sense, IMO.
  • dlazz
    Houston would fit, too.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Why isn't Cincinnati in the mix, IMO they should be proactive and partner up with L'ville and move.
  • Little Danny
    Cincinnati has been in the mix since WVU joined the B12. The buzz the past month or so though has included BYU, Rutger and even most recently some ACC cast-aways. It seems like everytime you turn around it takes different twists. Here is an article on cbssports that discusses UC and UL as serious contenders for teams #11 and #12.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/17065839/big-12-has-big-longterm-decision-looming-regarding-expansion
  • SportsAndLady
    Memphis "close" to the BE starting in 2013

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7551260/source-memphis-tigers-close-deal-join-big-east-2013
  • Mulva
    Memphis is very bad at football.
  • goosebumps
    The Big East has to be thinking about improving in basketball with this move. Losing Syracuse, Pitt, and WVU hurt the BBall side pretty bad, but adding Memphis will help. FedEx is also looking to spend some serious money and adding Memphis helps with that, but in Football they're about as bad as you can get. Does let us have a conference championship game though.
  • goosebumps
    Its official, BE to add Memphis in 2013-2014 all sports.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7551260/memphis-tigers-joining-big-east-2013-14-season
  • ts1227
    Mulva;1078706 wrote:Memphis is very bad at football.
    Welcome to the Big East!
  • SportsAndLady
    Mulva;1078706 wrote:Memphis is very bad at football.
    I think this was a "get the conference to 12 football teams" move more than anything.
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    SportsAndLady;1078898 wrote:I think this was a "get the conference to 12 football teams" move more than anything.
    Yes and no. Yes it was important to get the conference to 12 football teams as soon as posisbly. No it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction; Pitino and others have been lobying hard for several years now to add Memphis (as a natural rival for/to Louisville).
  • Little Danny
    It's about three things:

    1) Basketball

    2) The fact that once the WVU lawsuit is resolved, Memphis (FedEx)will very likely buy their way out of their C-USA contract to play in the Big East in 2012 to fill their scheduling void.

    3) Basketball
  • SportsAndLady
    To replace WVU next year, Rutgers and Syracuse might play a home and home

    lolwut
  • goosebumps
    SportsAndLady;1080426 wrote:To replace WVU next year, Rutgers and Syracuse might play a home and home

    lolwut
    Haha I just saw this. I'm curious as to how this effects bowl eligibility. Can you count two wins against one team towards being bowl eligible? Its possible this has never been addressed before. No time to look right now haha.
  • SportsAndLady
    Gotta think it'd count as 2 wins
  • SportsAndLady
    No surprise here but the Big East is silently pushing Boise and the WAC to play in the BE in 2012.
  • ts1227
    SportsAndLady;1081468 wrote:No surprise here but the Big East is silently pushing Boise and the WAC to play in the BE in 2012.
    I assume you mean MWC?
  • SportsAndLady
    I saw WAC in the article...guess I confused them
  • ts1227
    SportsAndLady;1081482 wrote:I saw WAC in the article...guess I confused them
    Well, they're talking to both, actually...

    The BE is talking to the WAC about the return all of the other sports, and probably the MWC regarding an exit.
  • Little Danny
    Boise is a Big East member for football only. They are trying to get their olympic sports into the WAC.

    I am not 100% certain who is coming to the Big East for 2012, but with reports WVU/BE lawsuit has settled, the conference needs one more team for 2012 or people will be playing somebody twice.
  • ts1227
    They're reporting WVU and the BE reached an agreement in principle on the exit.

    $20M exit fee, with WVU paying $11M and Big 12 throwing in the rest (basically $1M each from the 9 Big 12 schools)

    The article also makes it look like $5M of that penalty money will be used by the Big East to pay off the Mountain West so that Boise can leave early.

    http://www.dailymail.com/News/breakingnews/201202090205
  • Little Danny
    ^
    The Big East was prepared to file suit against the B12. From Chip Brown at Orangebloods:

    ..

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    Talk about it in Inside the 40 Acres
    After all kinds of drama that included the Big East making last-ditch efforts to lure Boise State and then Temple into the Big East for 2012-13, the Big East has agreed to accept West Virginia's nearly $20 million settlement and move on with seven teams for the 2012 football season, sources said.

    After a court hearing Thursday in Providence, R.I., the Big East was prepared to file suit against the Big 12 if West Virginia left the Big East without the Big East having an eighth football team for the 2012 season.

    But with a Friday morning deadline looming for the Big East to either accept West Virginia's offer to pay nearly $20 million in exit fees or go to trial, the Big East blinked and has agreed to accept the payout from West Virginia and move on with a seven-team football schedule for 2012, sources said.

    Over the past 48 hours, the Big East was trying to get Boise State and then Temple to enter into the conference for the 2012-13 school year instead of the 2013-14 school year, sources said.

    Without an eighth team for football, the Big East was threatening to sue the Big 12 for damages because of its TV contractual obligations, sources said. The sources said the Big East was even considering using some of the money being promised by West Virginia in exit fees as financial incentives to entice either Boise or Temple into the Big East one year early.

    But Big East officials decided Thursday night to simply take West Virginia's settlement offer of just under $20 million (to get out of a contractual obligation to wait 27 months to exit the Big East) and simply move on with seven schools (Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida and Syracuse).

    Big 12 sources said the 2012 Big 12 football schedule will be released Friday with West Virginia as a member of the conference.

    Orangebloods.com has been reporting for weeks that both West Virginia and TCU will play in Austin in 2012 - with TCU as Texas' Thanksgiving night opponent.

    Oklahoma is expected to play at West Virginia in 2012. TCU will also play at West Virginia, according to sources
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  • SportsAndLady
    LOL so apparently it went like this:

    WVU: We'll offer you $20 million to leave

    Big East: No way. We want $50 million.

    Time goes by...

    Time goes by...

    Time goes by...

    Deadline comes up.

    Settle for $20 million




    lol nice negotiating skills there Big East.
  • Mulva
    ts1227;1078888 wrote:Welcome to the Big East!
    lol'd