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OSU Offseason Thread

  • vball10set
    dat dude;1053066 wrote:Gambrell and Chad Hagan the last two rumored transfers.
    http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/01/16/Pretrial-for-OSU-s-Gambrell-set-for-Feb-15.html
    COLUMBUS --- Seven days before Ohio State announced his dismissal from its football program, freshman defensive back DerJuan Gambrell was jailed in Columbus on misdemeanor charges of assault, menacing and unlawful restraint.
    Gambrell, a Rogers graduate, was arrested at an OSU dormitory at 12:32 p.m. Jan. 8 and booked at the Franklin County Jail. Gambrell was released from jail the following evening at 6:50 on his own recognizance. A police report on the incident that precipitated Gambrell's arrest was unavailable Monday because of the holiday.
    A pretrial is set for Feb. 15.
    OSU announced Sunday that new coach Urban Meyer had dismissed Gambrell and defensive back Dominic Clarke from the program. Clarke was charged with drunken driving Jan. 7.


  • dat dude
    All part of Urban's master plan!!!!! SMH
  • Terry_Tate
    Love the ovation for Luke Fickell. Great stuff there. It was a tough year but he walked into a very bad situation. Glad to see the fans really show appreciation for him.
  • imex99
    * The mental testing already has begun, but it will increase and crescendo in February with something called the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. At least that’s what it was called at Florida, where Marotti concocted killer workout sessions, including the Harley-Davidson Workout and Midnight Lifts, that became legend in Gainesville.
    * “Beware of any workouts that have names,” warned Eric Wilbur, a former Florida punter who suffered but improved under Marotti’s hand.
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    Meyer relies on Marotti for tougher Buckeyes
    By Rob Oller
    The Columbus Dispatch Tuesday January 17, 2012 5:13 AM
    Coach Urban Meyer saved the best for last. Standing on the wooden floor of Value City Arena at halftime of Ohio State’s men’s basketball game against Indiana, he introduced — not a veiled guarantee of victory over Michigan in 312 days — but the second-most necessary person in the football program.
    “And finally, the most important hire I made on this coaching staff…” Meyer began.
    With that, Mickey Marotti walked toward the most necessary person — Meyer — shook his hand and took his place in the lineup of assistant coaches on the court.
    One might conclude that the value of Marotti, the newly named assistant athletic director for sports performance, would rank below offensive coordinator Tom Herman. The Buckeyes were noticeably weak this past season in play-calling, not strength training.
    That conclusion would be correct if Marotti concerned himself only with monitoring the Buckeyes’ weight-lifting sessions. But more than building muscle, Marotti’s mission is to build minds.
    Beginning last week, and intensifying through the summer, Ohio State players will be wrung like a wet towel and tossed over a chair to dry. For several hours each day, they will wish they never had been born. The physical pain will be incredible. The mental strain will match it.
    Coaches have their pet words. Meyer’s is “toughness.” Known mostly as an offensive innovator, Meyer makes it clear that his core is cobalt first, creativity second. Toughness is the attribute he came to most appreciate while working under Earle Bruce at Ohio State (1986-87) and Colorado State (1990-92). And it remains central to his thinking that toughness begins with the brain, not the brawn.
    Enter Marotti, whose methods of molding athletes into the shape of a fist mesh perfectly with Meyer’s. That meeting of the minds makes Marotti, who first worked with Meyer as an Ohio State graduate assistant in 1987, then again at Notre Dame and Florida, most integral to Meyer’s plans to reshape the Buckeyes before September.
    They need to be hardened. Several times this past season Ohio State softened during the second half of games, most notably in a 34-27 loss to Nebraska. Later, Ohio State appeared listless in a 24-17 loss to Florida in the Gator Bowl. One explanation is that a difficult season of NCAA sanctions, coaching change and player suspensions took its toll against Florida. Meyer and Marotti have another “ex” word for it: excuse.
    The mental testing already has begun, but it will increase and crescendo in February with something called the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. At least that’s what it was called at Florida, where Marotti concocted killer workout sessions, including the Harley-Davidson Workout and Midnight Lifts, that became legend in Gainesville.
    “Beware of any workouts that have names,” warned Eric Wilbur, a former Florida punter who suffered but improved under Marotti’s hand.
    In his book, Through My Eyes, former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow credits “Coach Mick” for pushing him, physically and mentally, beyond what he thought possible.
    Meyer’s deep trust in Marotti goes beyond creative training techniques, which are not unique to most strength and conditioning coaches. The two men share similar personalities and values, which is critical considering that strength coaches spend more time with the players than any other coach, especially during offseason months.
    “They go on vacation this summer. We don’t,” Marotti said, comparing the rest of the Ohio State football staff to him and the other four full-time strength and conditioning coaches.
    Marotti said of the trust that Meyer has placed in him: “We’re thinking the same things, so when he (is not around) he knows what’s going on, because it is what always has gone on.”
    That “going on” is a grinding process that creates diamonds out of softer stuff.
    Get ready, Buckeyes. The heat and pressure have only just begun.
    Rob Oller is a sports reporter for The Dispatch.
    http://www.lockerpulse.com/News/Rob-Oller-commentary-Meyer-relies-on-Marotti-for-tougher-Buckeyes-S2679810
  • stroups
    That should undoubtedly weed out any soft players we have on this team.
  • FatHobbit
    imex99;1055707 wrote:* The mental testing already has begun, but it will increase and crescendo in February with something called the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. At least that’s what it was called at Florida, where Marotti concocted killer workout sessions, including the Harley-Davidson Workout and Midnight Lifts, that became legend in Gainesville.
    * “Beware of any workouts that have names,” warned Eric Wilbur, a former Florida punter who suffered but improved under Marotti’s hand.
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    -
    -
    Meyer relies on Marotti for tougher Buckeyes
    By Rob Oller
    The Columbus Dispatch Tuesday January 17, 2012 5:13 AM
    Coach Urban Meyer saved the best for last. Standing on the wooden floor of Value City Arena at halftime of Ohio State’s men’s basketball game against Indiana, he introduced — not a veiled guarantee of victory over Michigan in 312 days — but the second-most necessary person in the football program.
    “And finally, the most important hire I made on this coaching staff…” Meyer began.
    With that, Mickey Marotti walked toward the most necessary person — Meyer — shook his hand and took his place in the lineup of assistant coaches on the court.
    One might conclude that the value of Marotti, the newly named assistant athletic director for sports performance, would rank below offensive coordinator Tom Herman. The Buckeyes were noticeably weak this past season in play-calling, not strength training.
    That conclusion would be correct if Marotti concerned himself only with monitoring the Buckeyes’ weight-lifting sessions. But more than building muscle, Marotti’s mission is to build minds.
    Beginning last week, and intensifying through the summer, Ohio State players will be wrung like a wet towel and tossed over a chair to dry. For several hours each day, they will wish they never had been born. The physical pain will be incredible. The mental strain will match it.
    Coaches have their pet words. Meyer’s is “toughness.” Known mostly as an offensive innovator, Meyer makes it clear that his core is cobalt first, creativity second. Toughness is the attribute he came to most appreciate while working under Earle Bruce at Ohio State (1986-87) and Colorado State (1990-92). And it remains central to his thinking that toughness begins with the brain, not the brawn.
    Enter Marotti, whose methods of molding athletes into the shape of a fist mesh perfectly with Meyer’s. That meeting of the minds makes Marotti, who first worked with Meyer as an Ohio State graduate assistant in 1987, then again at Notre Dame and Florida, most integral to Meyer’s plans to reshape the Buckeyes before September.
    They need to be hardened. Several times this past season Ohio State softened during the second half of games, most notably in a 34-27 loss to Nebraska. Later, Ohio State appeared listless in a 24-17 loss to Florida in the Gator Bowl. One explanation is that a difficult season of NCAA sanctions, coaching change and player suspensions took its toll against Florida. Meyer and Marotti have another “ex” word for it: excuse.
    The mental testing already has begun, but it will increase and crescendo in February with something called the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. At least that’s what it was called at Florida, where Marotti concocted killer workout sessions, including the Harley-Davidson Workout and Midnight Lifts, that became legend in Gainesville.
    “Beware of any workouts that have names,” warned Eric Wilbur, a former Florida punter who suffered but improved under Marotti’s hand.
    In his book, Through My Eyes, former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow credits “Coach Mick” for pushing him, physically and mentally, beyond what he thought possible.
    Meyer’s deep trust in Marotti goes beyond creative training techniques, which are not unique to most strength and conditioning coaches. The two men share similar personalities and values, which is critical considering that strength coaches spend more time with the players than any other coach, especially during offseason months.
    “They go on vacation this summer. We don’t,” Marotti said, comparing the rest of the Ohio State football staff to him and the other four full-time strength and conditioning coaches.
    Marotti said of the trust that Meyer has placed in him: “We’re thinking the same things, so when he (is not around) he knows what’s going on, because it is what always has gone on.”
    That “going on” is a grinding process that creates diamonds out of softer stuff.
    Get ready, Buckeyes. The heat and pressure have only just begun.
    Rob Oller is a sports reporter for The Dispatch.
    http://www.lockerpulse.com/News/Rob-Oller-commentary-Meyer-relies-on-Marotti-for-tougher-Buckeyes-S2679810
    I'm not saying this guy isn't great, because he probably is, but has any coach ever brought in a new strength and conditioning coach and not tried to act like he was latest and greatest?
  • se-alum
    FatHobbit;1055779 wrote:I'm not saying this guy isn't great, because he probably is, but has any coach ever brought in a new strength and conditioning coach and not tried to act like he was latest and greatest?
    I'm sure they all say that, but Marotti has results to back it up. That Florida team was bigger, faster, and stronger when they trounced OSU in the NCG.
  • vball10set
    se-alum;1055785 wrote:I'm sure they all say that, but Marotti has results to back it up. That Florida team was bigger, faster, and stronger when they trounced OSU in the NCG.
    amen to that
  • stroups
    Rumors of Chad Hagan transferring.
  • LJ
    Taver Johnson leaving causing a stir in the backfield?
  • stroups
    I think the writing is on the wall that he is and will be buried on the depth chart.

    OSU announced their spring game will be april 21 at 1:30 kickoff
  • OneBuckeye
    stroups;1057054 wrote:Rumors of Chad Hagan transferring.
    Rumors of medical hardship for a long time because of a heart condition. As a result he got off to a slow start at OSU. He is a tweener between linebacker and safety, we have a lot of safeties. Not surprised, he had an odd recruitment to begin with.
  • FatHobbit
    se-alum;1055785 wrote:I'm sure they all say that, but Marotti has results to back it up. That Florida team was bigger, faster, and stronger when they trounced OSU in the NCG.
    They definitely were. But is that a matter of having better players or a better strength coach? OSU was at least equal to Miami in 2002. Did we change strength coaches between 2002 and 2006?
  • se-alum
    FatHobbit;1057527 wrote:They definitely were. But is that a matter of having better players or a better strength coach? OSU was at least equal to Miami in 2002. Did we change strength coaches between 2002 and 2006?
    I think it's a mix of everything, but the strength coach plays a big part of it. From everything I've read, Marotti is considered as one of the best, by pretty much everyone. I'm excited to have him, because it does seem like OSU's players never really change their physique throughout their careers. I mean this year, nobody really stood out to where you would say, "man, he really put in the work over the summer".
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    se-alum;1057593 wrote:does seem like OSU's players never really change their physique throughout their careers.
    #Dumb.

    Thaddeus Gibson immediately comes to mind. Rod smith is another [if I must name another].
  • FatHobbit
    Scarlet_Buckeye;1057621 wrote:#Dumb.

    Thaddeus Gibson immediately comes to mind. Rod smith is another [if I must name another].
    I don't think dumb is really appropriate. And I think it's natural to be excited about new coaches, especially after last season. It just seems to me that every team gets all excited about their new strength and conditioning coach. I'm sure at this level they are all pretty damn good.
  • se-alum
    Scarlet_Buckeye;1057621 wrote:#Dumb.

    Thaddeus Gibson immediately comes to mind. Rod smith is another [if I must name another].
    Lol...obviously out of hundreds of players, some are going to come to mind. Gibson looked like EVERY DE that Florida had under Meyer and Marotti.
  • LJ
    Can you guys just imagine though.... John Simon getting stronger, tougher and faster :o
  • vball10set
    Scarlet_Buckeye;1057621 wrote:#Dumb.

    Thaddeus Gibson immediately comes to mind. Rod smith is another [if I must name another].
    and don't forget Mr. Gholston

  • OneBuckeye
    LJ;1058478 wrote:Can you guys just imagine though.... John Simon getting stronger, tougher and faster :o
    It won't effect guys like him. It will effect guys like Sabino. Who should be 250 and still looks like he did when he came in as a freshman. Certain guys are gym rats others aren't. Storm Klien, Sabino, our entire OL could use a kick in the ass in the gym. Guys like Simon would be doing it either way.
  • LJ
    OneBuckeye;1058633 wrote:It won't effect guys like him. It will effect guys like Sabino. Who should be 250 and still looks like he did when he came in as a freshman. Certain guys are gym rats others aren't. Storm Klien, Sabino, our entire OL could use a kick in the ass in the gym. Guys like Simon would be doing it either way.
    A good strength and conditioning coach should not only be able to get everyone over their plateaus, but should be able to identify weaknesses in athletes who would be considered at the top of their game and be able to help them correct that weakness. That is the difference between being good and being elite.
  • OneBuckeye
    LJ;1058658 wrote:A good strength and conditioning coach should not only be able to get everyone over their plateaus, but should be able to identify weaknesses in athletes who would be considered at the top of their game and be able to help them correct that weakness. That is the difference between being good and being elite.
    S&C wise what is Simons weaknesses? He has a six pack, is fast as shit and weighs 270+. His frame is near maxed out. He could always harness his strength and speed better I guess, as that can be improved at any level but I doubt you will see a step change in him because he is already going 110%. You will definately see a step change in other kids.
  • se-alum
    OneBuckeye;1058633 wrote:It won't effect guys like him. It will effect guys like Sabino. Who should be 250 and still looks like he did when he came in as a freshman. Certain guys are gym rats others aren't. Storm Klien, Sabino, our entire OL could use a kick in the ass in the gym. Guys like Simon would be doing it either way.
    Agree. Gholston and Simon would look like they do now, if I were their strength and conditioning coach. I'm not going to make Marotti into some supreme mythical being like UM fans did with Barwis, but I think he will help.
  • LJ
    OneBuckeye;1058663 wrote:S&C wise what is Simons weaknesses?
    If Marotti can't identify any, then why would he be considered one of the best? That is what the best do. My guess is that we see more agility out of Simon and probably see him getting from sideline to sideline faster.
  • SportsAndLady
    Not really too related to OSU's offseason, but I didn't want to start a new thread...but Art Schlichter was busted for coke again. Dude's a fuckin nutcase.