OSU Offseason Thread
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se-alum
For everything not including recruiting or the coaching staff...
Fragel has officially moved to tackle. -
rightfieldI expect Stoneburner to have a really good senior year next season. Maybe 30- 35 catches. V. Reed also to do about the same.
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jpake1
I'm just excited to see the shake up. Everybody must prove themselves, and I think we'll see some changes out there. On offense, I'm curious to see the RB's and Philly. Does Hall get used like many of the UF RB's have? I'm curious to see if he can reach around 200 all-purpose touches (I think he should get 150 on offense and then through kick returns the rest) Does Hyde take over the #1 duties between the tackles or does Rod Smith make a push like many thought he was going to do last year? Philly has a skill set that should thrive in Urban's offense. He needs to step up and be a playmaker b/c if he can't under this offense, he's a bust. On defense, I'm really curious about the DL rotation. There's a lot of good DT's but some young speed is coming along. It'll be fun to see how playing time is divided. I'm also really paying attention to Grant and Clarke. Do they make the push to be the best 11 within reason. -
se-alum
Unfortunately for Philly, every offensive scheme requires receivers to CATCH the ball, something he hasn't shown the ability to do on a consistent basis.jpake1;1040061 wrote:I'm just excited to see the shake up. Everybody must prove themselves, and I think we'll see some changes out there. On offense, I'm curious to see the RB's and Philly. Does Hall get used like many of the UF RB's have? I'm curious to see if he can reach around 200 all-purpose touches (I think he should get 150 on offense and then through kick returns the rest) Does Hyde take over the #1 duties between the tackles or does Rod Smith make a push like many thought he was going to do last year? Philly has a skill set that should thrive in Urban's offense. He needs to step up and be a playmaker b/c if he can't under this offense, he's a bust. On defense, I'm really curious about the DL rotation. There's a lot of good DT's but some young speed is coming along. It'll be fun to see how playing time is divided. I'm also really paying attention to Grant and Clarke. Do they make the push to be the best 11 within reason. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Surprising, yet not surprising.se-alum;1040008 wrote:
Fragel has officially moved to tackle. -
LJ
Something BIG is going to happen last Wednesday.... I mean this Wednesday... -
Scarlet_Buckeye
[Insert scratching head icon]LJ;1040165 wrote:Something BIG is going to happen last Wednesday.... I mean this Wednesday... -
vball10set
hope this helpsScarlet_Buckeye;1040182 wrote:[Insert scratching head icon]
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se-alum
Fragel saw the writing on the wall, and requested the move. He could be a very good tackle with his athleticism.Scarlet_Buckeye;1040125 wrote:Surprising, yet not surprising. -
stroups
I think Berry is all but gone and I wouldn't be surprised to see Rod Smith transfer. -
jpake1
Looking at 295 playing weight. Urban is already drawing up tackle eligible plays for the goal line. A certain guy on staff might be of help.
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jordo212000
se-alum;1040066 wrote:Unfortunately for Philly, every offensive scheme requires receivers to CATCH the ball, something he hasn't shown the ability to do on a consistent basis.
This. I happen to think Philly Brown is garbage. Maybe he'll surprise me next year. But he was one of the more frustrating players from this year's team -
LJ
Were you missing from this forum all last offseason?Scarlet_Buckeye;1040182 wrote:[Insert scratching head icon] -
OneBuckeye
. Huh? More bad news?LJ;1040165 wrote:Something BIG is going to happen last Wednesday.... I mean this Wednesday... -
dat dudeDarryl Baldwin has been moved to OT. He's listed at 6'4" 290.
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stroups
Was wondering when that was going to happen. I actually thought he was/looked taller than 6'4"
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se-alum
He's Taurian Washington 2.0 at this point.jordo212000;1040276 wrote:This. I happen to think Philly Brown is garbage. Maybe he'll surprise me next year. But he was one of the more frustrating players from this year's team -
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
Don't want to see Smith leave. I would like to see him get a while to try LB since they are thin there and very deep at RB. I would also like to see him stay to help get his brother Jaylon who is a stud.stroups;1040257 wrote:I think Berry is all but gone and I wouldn't be surprised to see Rod Smith transfer. -
jpake1
The Buckeyes aren't deep at RB. Hall and Hyde, plus incoming FR if Smith leaves. You cannot count on FR. I think it thins us out more since Hall will have his certain role. There was always talk of Baldwin being a candidate in the long rung to play oline. Probably best for him as the DLine rotation is getting thick.
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se-alum
Agree with the RB situation. Hall will likely be a Percy Harvin type guy. I would like to see Smith stay. I think he can be a good one.jpake1;1040612 wrote:The Buckeyes aren't deep at RB. Hall and Hyde, plus incoming FR if Smith leaves. You cannot count on FR. I think it thins us out more since Hall will have his certain role. There was always talk of Baldwin being a candidate in the long rung to play oline. Probably best for him as the DLine rotation is getting thick. -
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
Smith and Berry haven't proven anything at RB though so at this point it doesn't hurt that bad. Hall and Hyde returning plus Dunn and Ball next year with Marshall the year after that is plenty. If they had produced more I would say it would hurt but they are not losing much production with those two. I really liked Berry but it doesn't seem it's going to work out. I hate losing him but one guy won't hurt that much when he hasn't contributed anyway. As for Smith, he really didn't do much running the ball and dropped quickly and I could see him being passed by the more dynamic Ball and Dunn.
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se-alum
Smith was only a RS Frosh. I don't think you can write him off yet. Berry's lack of production, along with the fact that he's batshit crazy, makes him being gone ok. Also, how do we know Ball and Dunn are dynamic at the college level?
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xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
I'm just not sure Smith would ever pass Hyde. Hyde didn't always look great but I though he looked better than Smith and is faster. I do know Smith hasn't had much of a chance but they are both young and Hyde did more to solidify himself. I'm not totally writing him off but I just didn't see anything to suggest he will be great and that they couldn't try him at another position. I think Ball and Dunn offer a little more versatility and explosiveness than he will. Obviously this is just my opinion since we are discussion what may happen in the future. Either way I definitely do NOT want him to leave because he is a talented player, but I think it could be at LB. FWIW I would love to be wrong and have him dominate next year but I think with a mix of Hall and Hyde as well as adding in Dunn and/or Ball they have plenty of options.
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0311sdpIs there more to the story of Smith missing the plane to the Gator Bowl? I think he may be gone but I hope not, I still think that he has more potential than Hyde or Hall, the incoming Freshmen being unknowns (as far as ability to contribute immediately). Something definately needs to be done to help the O-Line (new coach will be agood start) they were just horrible in the Bowl game. Sabino looked a little better and with Grant, Shazier, and a couple incoming guys LB should be ok. Moeller graduating will help, we won't have to watch him miss tackle after tackle anymore. Wide outs will be green but fairly talented and an upgrade in the secondary would not hurt either. A more aggressive approach may help those cover guys out too. QB, I really like Miller but is Guiton going to transfer too? If so they'll have to probably burn the redshirt season for Cardale Jones. I think anywhere from 10-2 or better is a real possibility next season and then look out for 2013.