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  • sleeper
    karen lotz;1003176 wrote:[video=youtube;75ZDIon7Vik][/video]
    LOL. This guy.
  • SportsAndLady
    Rotinaj;1002645 wrote:No it isnt. It just means that i love football and there isnt a damn thing i can do about the BCS so im going to watch. Nothing hypocritical about it.Saying you love the system just because you watch the games is dumb as hell.

    By not watching you are hurting their ratings, therefore hurting the BCS..how is that not something you can do? Are you that obsessed with football that you can't miss one national championship game between two teams you already watched play? Not to mention having the pleasure of missing the SEC lovefest/cock slobbering that will take place?

    I mean I love college football more than the next person but god damn do us all a favor, don't watch, and watch a +1 system come next season.

    The only way to get a playoff is to sacrifice 1 national championship game...this is the perfect time to do it considering you've already seen these teams play lol
  • Sonofanump
    ts1227;1003302 wrote:Times were preset a long ass time ago.
    Which of those bowl games were not pre-B1G Ten slots?
  • jordo212000
    SportsAndLady;1003358 wrote:By not watching you are hurting their ratings, therefore hurting the BCS..how is that not something you can do? Are you that obsessed with football that you can't miss one national championship game between two teams you already watched play? Not to mention having the pleasure of missing the SEC lovefest/cock slobbering that will take place?

    I mean I love college football more than the next person but god damn do us all a favor, don't watch, and watch a +1 system come next season.

    The only way to get a playoff is to sacrifice 1 national championship game...this is the perfect time to do it considering you've already seen these teams play lol
    Unless Nielsen pays him to provide them with his viewing habits, it doesn't matter one bit. Nobody will know he did or didn't watch.
  • SportsAndLady
    jordo212000;1003479 wrote:Unless Nielsen pays him to provide them with his viewing habits, it doesn't matter one bit. Nobody will know he did or didn't watch.

    The point is if enough people don't watch it'll make a dent..obviously I know one person wont make a difference dumbass
  • jordo212000
    SportsAndLady;1003496 wrote:The point is if enough people don't watch it'll make a dent..obviously I know one person wont make a difference dumbass
    I'm not even saying one person will or won't make a difference. I'm saying that people always say "I'm not watching that show, I don't want to improve the ratings" when it doesn't matter one bit. The only way it matters if they are actually surveyed by Nielsen. That's the only point I was trying to make. Take it easy
  • sherm03
    SportsAndLady;1003358 wrote: The only way to get a playoff is to sacrifice 1 national championship game...this is the perfect time to do it considering you've already seen these teams play lol
    LOL at you...and other people...thinking that not watching this particular National Championship game will magically bring about a playoff next year.

    TV Ratings aren't the only way they make money off these games. You going to convince all the fans of those schools not to show up to the game? You going to convince them not to buy merchandise?

    TV ratings are just a piece of the puzzle.
  • karen lotz
    Sacrifice the championship game? What the fuck does that mean?
  • jordo212000
    sherm03;1003632 wrote:LOL at you...and other people...thinking that not watching this particular National Championship game will magically bring about a playoff next year.

    TV Ratings aren't the only way they make money off these games. You going to convince all the fans of those schools not to show up to the game? You going to convince them not to buy merchandise?

    TV ratings are just a piece of the puzzle.
    You are never going to convince these fanbases to not watch or support the BCS. That's never the goal anyways, you know these people will watch. The real money is made from people who are not fans of these teams and the "casual fan." If enough casual fans and non Alabama / LSU / SEC fans do not watch and express enough disdain, it could potentially have some impact.

    Public sentiment really seems like it has gone the other direction on the BCS. I honestly do not see surviving past the next contract as is. I think we see them start heading towards a playoff next time around
  • enigmaax
    karen lotz;1003639 wrote:Sacrifice the championship game? What the **** does that mean?
    I always thought sacrificing had something to do with tying a virgin to a big slab with a pentagram on it. Don't worry, it will never work because Scooby Doo or somebody will get there just in time.
  • sherm03
    jordo212000;1003646 wrote:You are never going to convince these fanbases to not watch or support the BCS. That's never the goal anyways, you know these people will watch. The real money is made from people who are not fans of these teams and the "casual fan." If enough casual fans and non Alabama / LSU / SEC fans do not watch and express enough disdain, it could potentially have some impact.

    Public sentiment really seems like it has gone the other direction on the BCS. I honestly do not see surviving past the next contract as is. I think we see them start heading towards a playoff next time around
    Anger and boycotting and whatever else you want to do will not force a playoff next year. It will force the voters to say, "well shit, let's not let that happen again."

    Now if you're talking about getting a huge amount of people, and completely boycotting the entire bowl system (not just the National Championship Game) over the course of a few years...then it might help your cause in getting a playoff.

    Just boycotting the BCS Championship game won't do shit, as they will still be pulling in ratings from all the other bowls.
  • enigmaax
    sherm03;1003632 wrote:LOL at you...and other people...thinking that not watching this particular National Championship game will magically bring about a playoff next year.
    You gotta admit, it is a hell of a plan on paper:

    1. Don't watch championship game.
    2. ?
    3. Playoff!!!!
  • sherm03
    enigmaax;1003663 wrote:You gotta admit, it is a hell of a plan on paper:

    1. Don't watch championship game.
    2. ?
    3. Playoff!!!!
    LOL!

  • karen lotz
    enigmaax;1003663 wrote:You gotta admit, it is a hell of a plan on paper:

    1. Don't watch championship game.
    2. ?
    3. Playoff!!!!
    That is so crazy it just might work!
  • jordo212000
    sherm03;1003659 wrote:Anger and boycotting and whatever else you want to do will not force a playoff next year. It will force the voters to say, "well shit, let's not let that happen again."

    Now if you're talking about getting a huge amount of people, and completely boycotting the entire bowl system (not just the National Championship Game) over the course of a few years...then it might help your cause in getting a playoff.

    Just boycotting the BCS Championship game won't do shit, as they will still be pulling in ratings from all the other bowls.
    Who said anything about next year? Obviously change like this will take time. The amount of backlash surrounding this game is unreal. You're being contrarian if you do not see that the amount of outrage is very different this time around. Things will heat up even more if Alabama makes a bad showing and Oklahoma State wins.

    What is even more important the actual fans, is that it seems like BCS conference schools are starting to change their stances. It's starting to look like the Big 10 is the last remaining conference who stands in the way of it happening. Schools who had formerly been against a playoff have now changed their tune.

    The whole system is disgusting. The fact that Nick Saban (or heck even Mike Gundy) have votes that affect the BCS when they are interested parties is beyond stupid and unethical.On top of the imperfect human polls, you have the computer polls that are getting increasingly as exposed as either being poorly put together or even worse, completely secret.
  • sleeper
    enigmaax;1003663 wrote:You gotta admit, it is a hell of a plan on paper:

    1. Don't watch championship game.
    2. ?
    3. Playoff!!!!
    Pretty much true. If no one watched, it would cut the money and force the system into a playoff because that is what the customer wants.

    Remember, LSU/Bama winning the title doesn't make Florida look any less pathetic. Enjoy!
  • sherm03
    jordo212000;1003686 wrote:Who said anything about next year?

    Hmmm......
    SportsAndLady;1003686 wrote:The only way to get a playoff is to sacrifice 1 national championship game...this is the perfect time to do it considering you've already seen these teams play lol
    Sure seems like the post I was initially referring to has some heavy implications that sacrificing this ONE national championship game will bring about a playoff.
    jordo212000;1003686 wrote:Obviously change like this will take time. The amount of backlash surrounding this game is unreal. You're being contrarian if you do not see that the amount of outrage is very different this time around. Things will heat up even more if Alabama makes a bad showing and Oklahoma State wins.
    What if Alabama wins...and Oklahoma State loses? What will people have to say then?

    jordo212000;1003686 wrote:The whole system is disgusting. The fact that Nick Saban (or heck even Mike Gundy) have votes that affect the BCS when they are interested parties is beyond stupid and unethical.On top of the imperfect human polls, you have the computer polls that are getting increasingly as exposed as either being poorly put together or even worse, completely secret.
    So what's the solution? I have yet to see a playoff solution that is any more fair than what we already have. Like I've said many times...the NCAA has never recognized a National Champion at the highest level of collegiate football. If the sport has survived this long without having a National Champion, I'm sure it can continue to survive with the current format.
  • jordo212000
    sherm03;1003694 wrote: What if Alabama wins...and Oklahoma State loses? What will people have to say then?
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    People will question the tagline "every game counts" and the fact that every week is a playoff. LSU already beat them in Alabama. It is a joke that they have to beat them again
  • se-alum
    The only thing that will bring on a playoff is if the coaches start speaking out in mass. Petersen is correct, instead of becoming easier to figure out what you need to do to make a BCS game over the years, it has gotten more blurry by the year. Boise State not making a BCS game is an absolute sham. Va Tech has not beaten 1 top 25 team all year. It's not just the NCG game, it's the entire system.
  • enigmaax
    jordo212000;1003870 wrote:People will question the tagline "every game counts" and the fact that every week is a playoff. LSU already beat them in Alabama. It is a joke that they have to beat them again
    Obviously the "every week is a playoff" isn't literal. But there is plenty of interest in each week, even outside of one's own fandom because of how important it is for the top teams to continue winning, how a single loss can impact a team's title hopes, and speculation on what is going to happen as the season continues to unfold.

    Every game does count. You just want one game to count more than all of the others combined. Alabama's hopes might have been dashed after that loss to LSU. Oklahoma State could have kept winning. We didn't know whether they would or not, so we were interested. They didn't and it changed the whole outlook. Alabama could've lost to Auburn and changed it again. We didn't know whether they would or not (and before you talk about how everybody knew, everybody also knew Oklahoma State was going to beat Iowa State). They didn't lose and so, it has played out this way.

    The end result not being what you wanted doesn't mean it wasn't fun getting there.
  • se-alum
    sherm03;1003694 wrote:




    What if Alabama wins...and Oklahoma State loses? What will people have to say then?



    Why would that matter? It's easy to see why OSU might have a let down, knowing they should be playing in a NCG, and not a bowl nobody outside of Stillwater will know they won or lost in a few years.
  • enigmaax
    se-alum;1003876 wrote:The only thing that will bring on a playoff is if the coaches start speaking out in mass. Petersen is correct, instead of becoming easier to figure out what you need to do to make a BCS game over the years, it has gotten more blurry by the year. Boise State not making a BCS game is an absolute sham. Va Tech has not beaten 1 top 25 team all year. It's not just the NCG game, it's the entire system.
    I think it is funny that Petersen said that. The answer has never changed for Boise - go undefeated, win your conference, be the highest ranked non-AQ school. And be fucking glad you get treated so good for winning one game a year against anything more than schedule filler for every single other school that wants to be in a BCS game.
  • enigmaax
    se-alum;1003878 wrote:Why would that matter? It's easy to see why OSU might have a let down, feeling like they should've beaten Iowa State and be playing in a NCG, and not a bowl nobody outside of Stillwater will know they won or lost in a few years.
    More accurate.
  • SportsAndLady
    sherm03;1003632 wrote:LOL at you...and other people...thinking that not watching this particular National Championship game will magically bring about a playoff next year.

    TV Ratings aren't the only way they make money off these games. You going to convince all the fans of those schools not to show up to the game? You going to convince them not to buy merchandise?

    TV ratings are just a piece of the puzzle.
    You seriously don't think that if the ratings suck this year coupled with coaches now starting to speak out against the system...they won't make a change? With how popular college football is right now, having bad ratings means you are fucking up, which means you need to make a change.
  • SportsAndLady
    karen lotz;1003639 wrote:Sacrifice the championship game? What the **** does that mean?
    What do you mean what does that mean? Don't watch the fucking game. Are you retarded?