10/27

• WebFire

  Regardless, it wouldn't be on Kelly. Someone was in charge, and they should have been fired. But you are kidding yourself if you think head coaches worries about those details. That is why they have huge staffs.
• sleeper

  

  Ok Homicide. Cool.
• dwccrew

  

  WebFire;949228 wrote:Regardless, it wouldn't be on Kelly. Someone was in charge, and they should have been fired. But you are kidding yourself if you think head coaches worries about those details. That is why they have huge staffs.

  The evil Jim Tressel worried about it and was quoted stating that he didn't want to put someone up in the tower with high winds. So I guess some head coaches (or former head coaches) do worry about it. Tressel cancelled outdoor practice due to winds and this was a day before the Sullivan accident. Here is a link:
  
  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/27/tressel-was-worried-about-high-winds-tuesday/
  

  “I don’t know if we’ll be inside or out,” Tressel said according to the Lake County News-Herald. "It looks a little nasty. I worry about our cameraman, their well-being up there 50 feet in the air."

• karen lotz

  

  dwccrew;949258 wrote:The evil Jim Tressel worried about it and was quoted stating that he didn't want to put someone up in the tower with high winds. So I guess some head coaches (or former head coaches) do worry about it. Tressel cancelled outdoor practice due to winds and this was a day before the Sullivan accident. Here is a link:
  
  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/27/tressel-was-worried-about-high-winds-tuesday/

  
  Notre Dame practiced indoors on that Tuesday also.
• dwccrew

  

  karen lotz;949297 wrote:Notre Dame practiced indoors on that Tuesday also.

  Ok? What does that have to do with my post?
• WebFire

  dwccrew;949348 wrote:Ok? What does that have to do with my post?

  Because you were comparing 2 different days?
• dwccrew

  

  WebFire;949352 wrote:Because you were comparing 2 different days?

  I wasn't comparing anything, I was pointing out how you were wrong. You made a false statement claiming that head coaches don't worry about those details. I pointed out a case in which a head coach was worried about those details. What exactly was I comparing? Reading comprehension......get some.
• WebFire

  dwccrew;949360 wrote:I wasn't comparing anything, I was pointing out how you were wrong. You made a false statement claiming that head coaches don't worry about those details. I pointed out a case in which a head coach was worried about those details. What exactly was I comparing? Reading comprehension......get some.

  If you think Tressel actually made that call, well...ok. More likely, the person in charge decided that and passed on to Tressel that's what he wanted to do.
• dwccrew

  

  WebFire;949363 wrote:If you think Tressel actually made that call, well...ok. More likely, the person in charge decided that and passed on to Tressel that's what he wanted to do.

  Silly me. Here I have always thought it was the head coach that made decisions on how and where to practice.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Ohio State coach Jim Tressel is quoted as saying he didn't know if it would be safe to send his video guys up in that same weather less than 24 hours prior to Delcan's death. (he took practice indoors by the way.)

  ..
• queencitybuckeye

  WebFire;949228 wrote:Regardless, it wouldn't be on Kelly. Someone was in charge, and they should have been fired. But you are kidding yourself if you think head coaches worries about those details. That is why they have huge staffs.

  Yes, they have staffs, and of course they don't directly control such activities. That said, they are at the top of the organization are therefore bear responsibility for everything that happens in it.
• dwccrew

  

  SportsAndLady;949392 wrote:..

  Did you not read Webfire's post? Not only do head coaches not worry about these details, but they don't make that call, someone else in charge does and passes it along to the coach.
• WebFire

  dwccrew;949395 wrote:Did you not read Webfire's post? Not only do head coaches not worry about these details, but they don't make that call, someone else in charge does and passes it along to the coach.

  I suppose he decides the team meals too? Hope no one chokes on a chicken bone. :rolleyes:
• WebFire

  SportsAndLady;949392 wrote:..

  The coach practicing indoors is not the same as deciding where the video guy is.
  
  And dwc...I'm talking about where the video guy tapes from. Not where and how they practice. Good grief.
• superman

  If BK was not in charge, then the person who was should be held responsible.
• WebFire

  superman;949447 wrote:If BK was not in charge, then the person who was should be held responsible.

  I agree.
• dwccrew

  

  WebFire;949431 wrote:The coach practicing indoors is not the same as deciding where the video guy is.
  
  And dwc...I'm talking about where the video guy tapes from. Not where and how they practice. Good grief.

  Doesn't matter, the point is you made a false statement. You said "But you are kidding yourself if you think head coaches worries about those details."
  
  This is false as I have provided you links and quotes that show that Tressel did care about those details. I mean he said I am worried about our cameraguy. Not sure what you aren't understanding here.
• dwccrew

  

  Just for clarity.
  

  "I don’t know if we’ll be inside or out,” Tressel said according to the Lake County News-Herald. "It looks a little nasty. I worry about our cameraman, their well-being up there 50 feet in the air."

• Tobias Fünke

  

  That wasn't even the whole point of the fucking accident. Notre Dame used weather reports that were too vague, that was the fault. The weather report for South Bend wasn't bad, and a gust of wind caused the accident. Brian Kelly didn't make the call to go practice in a hurricane.
  
  Did any of you clowns actually read the report? Can any of you actually read?
• sleeper

  

  Tobias Fünke;949564 wrote:That wasn't even the whole point of the ****ing accident. Notre Dame used weather reports that were too vague, that was the fault. The weather report for South Bend wasn't bad, and a gust of wind caused the accident. Brian Kelly didn't make the call to go practice in a hurricane.
  
  Did any of you clowns actually read the report? Can any of you actually read?

  Who was in charge of ensuring the weather reports were not "too vague"? That person should be fired immediately.
  
  Don't worry though, ND is forever scarred for life. The set the precedent that if you are ever in trouble, just take full responsibility for the action so you can keep your job. What a joke.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  sleeper;949590 wrote:Who was in charge of ensuring the weather reports were not "too vague"? That person should be fired immediately.

  I'm not sure who was in charge of that, here's what I do know:
  
  Neither the Sullivan family or the state ever asked for a resignation. The Sullivans never even demanded money (contrary to what you alluded previously in this thread), they recognized that it was a freak accident.
  
  How can you not grasp that? You're a sick mother fucker using Sullivan's death to further your agenda of getting insults in against Notre Dame. Real classy. You must live a great life.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Tobias Fünke;949606 wrote:I'm not sure who was in charge of that, here's what I do know:
  
  Neither the Sullivan family or the state ever asked for a resignation. The Sullivans never even demanded money (contrary to what you alluded previously in this thread), they recognized that it was a freak accident.
  
  How can you not grasp that? You're a sick mother ****er using Sullivan's death to further your agenda of getting insults in against Notre Dame. Real classy. You must like a great life.

  But didn't they get paid? Why ask for money when you know it's coming?
• Tobias Fünke

  

  No, they didn't. At least to my knowledge, go find a story saying that.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Tobias Fünke;949622 wrote:No, they didn't. At least to my knowledge, go find a story saying that.

  I was actually asking the question..I just assumed they collected some sort of damages?
• Tobias Fünke

  

  SportsAndLady;949627 wrote:I was actually asking the question..I just assumed they collected some sort of damages?

  From Notre Dame? No.
  
  Notre Dame paid the max penalty to OSHA and established a scholarship fund in his honor.