College Basketball Random Chatter
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robj55
Koufus averaged 14 and 7 as a freshman.SportsAndLady;1135138 wrote:The Koufus point was that he was ****ing terrible, but went mid-20's because he was 7 feet and had "potential"
Same with Withey. -
SportsAndLady
Oh ya I'm thinking of the other 7 footer from OSU that sucked and went first roundrobj55;1135141 wrote:Koufus averaged 14 and 7 as a freshman. -
wildcats20
BJ. -
karen lotz
Byron -
robj55
Who also doesn't suck and isn't comparable to Withey in terms of talent.wildcats20;1135156 wrote:BJ. -
Ironman92
SportsAndLady;1135145 wrote:Oh ya I'm thinking of the other 7 footer from OSU that sucked and went first round
20 and 9 last night -
SportsAndLady
He sucked in college is what I meant..when I put "he sucked"
He's obviously the GOAT NBA player, but in college he sucked but showed potential (aka, he was 7 foot) -
SportsAndLady
What don't you understand that I wasn't comparing their games?robj55;1135161 wrote:Who also doesn't suck and isn't comparable to Withey in terms of talent. -
robj55
Our definition of suck is way different, underachieved yes, sucked no way. He averaged 9, 5 and a block in only 20 minutes a game and was never featured in the offense. I understand the point you are trying to make though.SportsAndLady;1135186 wrote:He sucked in college is what I meant..when I put "he sucked"
He's obviously the GOAT NBA player, but in college he sucked but showed potential (aka, he was 7 foot) -
robj55
Not their games but their talent, which is what you are drafted on and what you were referring to. To put Withey with either is silly.SportsAndLady;1135188 wrote:What don't you understand that I wasn't comparing their games? -
SportsAndLady
he sucked for being drafted 24th overall lolrobj55;1135195 wrote:Our definition of suck is way different, underachieved yes, sucked no way. He averaged 9, 5 and a block in only 20 minutes a game and was never featured in the offense. I understand the point you are trying to make though.
The only reason he was drafted there was because of potential..he's 7 foot, and showed glimpses of talent. Just like Withey.
A 7 footer who shoots 83% from the FT line, a monster on defense (NCAA Tournament record for blocks), good build, and has shown good footwork and post moves in his one year of play..you're (karen) telling me he can't potentially be a first round pick in 2013? LOL -
SportsAndLady
They aren't drafted on talent lol they're drafted on potential. Someone who put up 9 and 5 a game isn't drafted 24th overall because of his talent; he's drafted because he has potential.robj55;1135197 wrote:Not their games but their talent, which is what you are drafted on and what you were referring to. To put Withey with either is silly. -
robj55
I'm telling you there is no comparison to Mullens and Koufus, who you said "suck", that's all.SportsAndLady;1135200 wrote:he sucked for being drafted 24th overall lol
The only reason he was drafted there was because of potential..he's 7 foot, and showed glimpses of talent. Just like Withey.
A 7 footer who shoots 83% from the FT line, a monster on defense (NCAA Tournament record for blocks), good build, and has shown good footwork and post moves in his one year of play..you're (karen) telling me he can't potentially be a first round pick in 2013? LOL -
chicago510
karen lotz;1135087 wrote:I don't have an issue with it, its just my opinion that he isn't first round ever. I saw one where he goes undrafted.
No way on earth he goes undrafted. Not lottery but high second round. -
SportsAndLady
There is a comparison: all 3 showed potential and were 7 foot. I obviously know their games aren't comparable.robj55;1135204 wrote:I'm telling you there is no comparison to Mullens and Koufus, who you said "suck", that's all. -
robj55
9 and 5 with a block in only 20 minutes, also the number 1 player in the nation coming out of High School. Honestly I was putting potential along with talent, hand in hand.SportsAndLady;1135201 wrote:They aren't drafted on talent lol they're drafted on potential. Someone who put up 9 and 5 a game isn't drafted 24th overall because of his talent; he's drafted because he has potential. -
SportsAndLady
Only 20 minutes = he wasn't good enough to get more minutes as the #1 recruit in the country lolrobj55;1135207 wrote:9 and 5 with a block in only 20 minutes, also the number 1 player in the nation coming out of High School. Honestly I was putting potential along with talent, hand in hand.
He wasn't good at Ohio State..he was only drafted 24th because he is 7 foot and had potential...idk what else to say really -
robj55
Except that Mullens and Kosta were way better, which is the whole point.SportsAndLady;1135208 wrote:There is a comparison: all 3 showed potential and were 7 foot. I obviously know their games aren't comparable. -
SportsAndLady
Lol Withey averages 9, 6, and 3.5 (blocks). Those are better stats than Mullens.robj55;1135222 wrote:Except that Mullens and Kosta were way better, which is the whole point. -
robj55
Whatever makes you feel better, those are good numbers for those minutes, he also shot 64% percent from the floor as a freshman. You can say he wasn't good enough to get more minutes but none of us know why he didn't start over Lauderdale, who's numbers were far worse than his.SportsAndLady;1135215 wrote:Only 20 minutes = he wasn't good enough to get more minutes as the #1 recruit in the country lol
He wasn't good at Ohio State..he was only drafted 24th because he is 7 foot and had potential...idk what else to say really -
robj55
You are unreal, Withey is a Junior, Mullens was a freshman and only played 20 minutes a game, take the homer glasses off man.SportsAndLady;1135225 wrote:Lol Withey averages 9, 6, and 3.5 (blocks). Those are better stats than Mullens. -
SportsAndLady
This is Withey's first year actually playing, friend.robj55;1135231 wrote:You are unreal, Withey is a Junior, Mullens was a freshman and only played 20 minutes a game, take the homer glasses off man.
He averaged 6 minutes a game his sophomore year. 3 min his freshman year. He played mop up time.
Withey is only playing 24 min a game lol 20 min isn't THAT low of a number. -
robj55
Mullens 3rd year numbers would have blown his away, Withey wasn't good enough to see the floor the first 2 years? Mullens>>Withey. Those first 2 years sitting and practicing against Robinson and the Morris brothers, you would expect much better if he was as good as you are proclaiming. You're reasoning is a cop out though, "this is his first year playing".SportsAndLady;1135233 wrote:This is Withey's first year actually playing, friend.
He averaged 6 minutes a game his sophomore year. 3 min his freshman year. He played mop up time.
Withey is only playing 24 min a game lol 20 min isn't THAT low of a number. -
SportsAndLady
He was recruited as a project. Most programs recruit a guy like Withey and build him to play around his junior year. It's nothing out of the ordinary. Not to mention, he sat behind Cole Aldrich, Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris, and Thomas Robinson his first 2 years...soooo it's not that outrageous to see why he didn't see the floor.robj55;1135244 wrote:Mullens 3rd year numbers would have blown his away, Withey wasn't good enough to see the floor the first 2 years? Mullens>>Withey. Those first 2 years sitting and practicing against Robinson and the Morris brothers, you would expect much better if he was as good as you are proclaiming. You're reasoning is a cop out though, "this is his first year playing".
"Mullens 3rd year numbers would have blown his away" irrelevant to this argument/conversation. For one, it's debatable. Secondly, it doesn't matter. Mullens' first of playing was his freshman year, he averaged 9, 5, and 1 and went 24 overall. Withey's first year of playing (i don't count mop up min as actual playing time, so junior year) he went 9, 6, and 3.5...so with precedent here, he's looking at mid 20s in the 2013 draft. Not bad. -
robj55
You are overlooking the huge difference between the growth of one's game between the ages of 18 and 21, which Withey had the advantage of having in this situation. It's really not comparable.SportsAndLady;1135246 wrote:He was recruited as a project. Most programs recruit a guy like Withey and build him to play around his junior year. It's nothing out of the ordinary. Not to mention, he sat behind Cole Aldrich, Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris, and Thomas Robinson his first 2 years...soooo it's not that outrageous to see why he didn't see the floor.
"Mullens 3rd year numbers would have blown his away" irrelevant to this argument/conversation. For one, it's debatable. Secondly, it doesn't matter. Mullens' first of playing was his freshman year, he averaged 9, 5, and 1 and went 24 overall. Withey's first year of playing (i don't count mop up min as actual playing time, so junior year) he went 9, 6, and 3.5...so with precedent here, he's looking at mid 20s in the 2013 draft. Not bad.