College Basketball Random Chatter

• Mulva

  

  SportsAndLady;1104988 wrote:Perry Jones III 3rd team all big 12...lol, how can you justify taking a top 5 pick on a 3rd team all-conference player???

  Tristan Thompson was 2nd team.
  
  I don't think there's much of a chance he goes top 5 anymore though.
• sportswizuhrd

  Mulva;1104994 wrote:Tristan Thompson was 2nd team.
  
  I don't think there's much of a chance he goes top 5 anymore though.

  He might even come back for another year.
• wildcats20

  

  Cal loses to Stanford.
  
  Again, the Pac 12 is a ONE BID LEAGUE.
• reclegend22

  

  Glad to see Johnny Dawkins pick up the win for Stanford. The Cardinal are looking more and more like a team that could get hot and upset somebody in the NIT. :rolleyes: I really thought after how well the Cardinal played against Syracuse in New York earlier this year that Stanford would contend for a conference championship. Dawkins has some major work to do in the next two seasons.
  
  As for the Pac-12 only getting one team, I think this is probably going to be the case unless Cal or Arizona runs the table in the tournament. Cal, second in the Pac-12, has no good OOC wins to speak of and in the two most high profile OOC games the Bears did play, they were clobbered by Missouri (92 to 53) and beaten soundly by UNLV (85-68). Washington is the lone wolf it appears.
• Mulva

  

  Lunardi's update.
  
  Last Four In
  Northwestern
  Seton Hall
  Xavier
  Texas
  
  First Four Out
  Tennessee
  VCU
  Oregon
  NC State
  
  Next Four Out
  Miami (Fla.)
  Iona
  Arizona
  Saint Joseph's
  
  Also considered: Dayton, Marshall, Ole Miss, Middle Tennessee
• Crimson streak

  

  Iona deserves to be in over all those teams
• SportsAndLady

  

  Crimson streak;1105297 wrote:Iona deserves to be in over all those teams

  Not at all. Iona has 1 win in the RPI top 50, Nevada--nothing to write home about.
  
  They have TWO losses to RPI 200+ teams.
  
  SOS of 130+.
  
  They're NIT bound.
• Laley23

  

  Iona doesnt deserve it. But I wish they would make it. Fun team, and the guard play to eaisly make a run.
• Crimson streak

  

  They deserve it bc there a good team. I feel there more deserving than a power 6 conference team that has 13-14 losses. I also think VCR should get in also if they don't win there tourny
• Azubuike24

  

  VCU and Drexel both have 27 wins and have rolled in the CAA regular season and tournament. Both are deserving regardless of tonight.
• chicago510

  

  More Turmoil for Boeheim and Syracuse:
  
  According to Yahoo!, Syracuse reportedly has ignored internal positive drug tests and thus played ineligible players going as far back as 2001.
  
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ys-syracuse_basketball_investigation_drug_violation_030512
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm starting to perceive Boeheim as one big cheatin, dirty son of a bitch lol
  
  Not saying that's true..but damn he's not helping his perception at all
• vball10set

  chicago510;1105970 wrote:More Turmoil for Boeheim and Syracuse:
  
  According to Yahoo!, Syracuse reportedly has ignored internal positive drug tests and thus played ineligible players going as far back as 2001.
  
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ys-syracuse_basketball_investigation_drug_violation_030512

  yikes
• killer_ewok

  

  They should not have had the policy or they should have followed it. I don't think some college players smoking weed comes as any shock as I'm sure a lot do. You don't want to have to discipline them....then don't have the policy.
• killer_ewok

  

  I wonder who would get tougher questions from the media (regarding off-court stuff) if Kentucky and Syracuse met in the National Championship game - Cal or Boeheim?
• chicago510

  

  killer_ewok;1106067 wrote:I wonder who would get tougher questions from the media (regarding off-court stuff) if Kentucky and Syracuse met in the National Championship game - Cal or Boeheim?

  Normally--Cal. But he has been "clean" this year---or at least not gotten caught with anything.
  This year---Boeheim. Even though Fine was somewhat of a sham, this story is reported by the best in the biz (Charles Robinson) so I doubt this is it.
• killer_ewok

  

  Syracuse AD responds:
  
  
  In the wake of a Yahoo! Sports report indicating Syracuse University officials allowed 10 basketball players over the last decade to practice and play despite being in violation of the school’s drug policy, SU athletic director Daryl Gross said the university had previously self-reported the possible violations to the NCAA.
  
  On Monday, Yahoo! Sports reported the results of a three-month investigation, which the website said used four sources with intimate knowledge of the Syracuse men’s basketball program.
  
  The report stated that Syracuse violated its own drug policy in at least two areas: failing to properly count positive tests, and playing ineligible players after they should have been subject to suspension.
  
  Gross, however, said the university had already reported the possible violations to the NCAA.
  
  “It’s our policy to self-report any and all potential infractions to the NCAA,” Gross said Monday. “We self-report constantly.”
  
  When asked about the timing of SU’s report to the NCAA, Gross said, “Years ago.” The Yahoo! Sports report stated that 10 players since 2001 had tested positive for banned recreational substances.
  
  Gross refused to comment on the Yahoo! Sports story or the university’s report to the NCAA.
  
  “We cannot comment on any type of NCAA matter,” Gross said.
  
  While the Yahoo! Sports report suggests that Syracuse’s drug policy transgressions encompassed a window that spans from 2001 to the present, Gross insisted that the university’s self-report included no current members of the Syracuse University basketball team.
  
  “We’re not dealing with any current student-athletes,” Gross said Monday. “We know what kind of kids we have here. We have good kids who are in compliance with all NCAA rules and university policies.”
  
  Syracuse University basketball coach Jim Boeheim declined comment on Monday.
  
  Many of the transgressions in the Yahoo! Sports story appear to have taken place between 2001 and 2004. Gross took over as athletic director in 2005. That would put many of the potential violations during the time when former athletic director Jake Crouthamel was still at Syracuse.
  
  Gross refused to talk about the timeline of the violations and the university’s report.
  
  He said it wasn’t unusual for the NCAA to take years to finalize an investigation into violations that have been self-reported by a university.
  
  “There’s a process involved,” Gross said. “There’s discussion. A back-and-forth.”
  
  Gross said he was confident in how the university handled the self-reporting of the potential violations.
  
  “We think we did things the right way,” he said.
• killer_ewok

  

  I copied and pasted from a Twitter link on my iPhone so the format is kinda messed up. Sorry.
• 2kool4skool

  

  No way some college AD's haven't thrown around the idea of pooling their money and having a hit put on Charles Robinson.
• chicago510

  

  I am curious when Syracuse self reported. Before or after Yahoo! started digging?
• chicago510

  

  2kool4skool;1106092 wrote:No way some college AD's haven't thrown around the idea of pooling their money and having a hit put on Charles Robinson.

  It sucks when its your school, but its embarrassing for the NCAA that a Yahoo! writer does a better job of investigating/monitoring than their own staff.
• killer_ewok

  

  chicago510;1106095 wrote:I am curious when Syracuse self reported. Before or after Yahoo! started digging?

  
  Not sure but I guess we'll find out at some point.
• centralbucksfan

  chicago510;1106096 wrote:It sucks when its your school, but its embarrassing for the NCAA that a Yahoo! writer does a better job of investigating/monitoring than their own staff.

  Not sure about the embarressing part. No NCAA fan at all here. But their resources are limited. They also don't have $$ to be throwing around to get information either. Reporters will do anything to get a story, don't kid yourself.
• chicago510

  

  centralbucksfan;1106103 wrote:Not sure about the embarressing part. No NCAA fan at all here. But their resources are limited. They also don't have $$ to be throwing around to get information either. Reporters will do anything to get a story, don't kid yourself.

  So you have an organization that creates insane and hypocritical rules that limit what schools and "student"-athletes can do, profits millions off of them, but can't enforce its own rules? Sounds like a great system.
• Azubuike24

  

  centralbucksfan;1106103 wrote:Not sure about the embarressing part. No NCAA fan at all here. But their resources are limited. They also don't have $$ to be throwing around to get information either. Reporters will do anything to get a story, don't kid yourself.

  For their "resources being limited", they sure make some puzzling decisions on what to pursue and what to let go. There are also other things they get involved in that don't seem to be a huge priority.
  
  This is why I posted the other Calipari article. Not to really debate the NCAA, but to point out that the NCAA, like many believe, is in well over their head given today's scope of dealings in athletics. There is a whole sector of social media and reporting that is RUNNING RAMPANT and is going largely unchecked by the NCAA. The same goes on with recruiting, AAU and "handlers" for programs all over the country. None of this stuff is policed how it should be. However, when it comes to light, the NCAA steps in and acts like they are the savior and supreme ruler on situations.
  
  Look at the OSU situation. The NCAA acted swiftly handing down punishment after an exhaustive investigation. Why was that a priority over other stuff? Sure, it's great for many people that "someone got caught", but how many other similar situations at less reputable and notable places didn't even get investigated? Like that article stated, they care a lot more about portrayal than actual substance, and someone who governs like that isn't going to last.