College Basketball Random Chatter

• Azubuike24

  

  Prior to their previous game, Alabama coach Anthony Grant suspended star Junior Tony Mitchell indefinitely.
  
  Prior to today's game, Grant has now also suspended Senior JaMychal Green, Junior Andrew Steele and Sophomore Trevor Releford.
  
  That's, in essence, 4 of Alabama's top 6 players, including their 3 top scorers.
  
  Not sure what's going on down there...more to come...
• cats gone wild

  Nothing has been leaked yet about why the 3 got suspended today. Makes me curious. UF not having a good week, looks like they might get sweeped by Tenn.
  Looking forward to the UK/Vandy game. I didnt watch the college gameday today, but did the UK fans take over at Vandy like they were planning too? Nevermind, just read about it and Digger Phelps. Stupid.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Mulva, you change your mind about the SEC now?
  
  Florida goes down, Mississippi State goes down, Bama loses everyone...not a good day for your argument lol
• Mulva

  

  SportsAndLady;1083058 wrote:Mulva, you change your mind about the SEC now?
  
  Florida goes down, Mississippi State goes down, Bama loses everyone...not a good day for your argument lol

  Kansas State lost to Texas and is now right back on the bubble, so nope.
  
  Bama is screwed though.
• Mulva

  

  And Wichita State is smacking down on Creighton. Blue Jays falling apart. Going to be 3 straight losses.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Mulva;1083085 wrote:Kansas State lost to Texas and is now right back on the bubble, so nope.
  
  Bama is screwed though.

  Well of course one of KSU and Texas had to lose they were playing each other lol
• Mulva

  

  Kansas State shouldn't have lost that game. Especially after being up 13 at halftime. Texas isn't good.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Mulva;1083115 wrote:Kansas State shouldn't have lost that game. Especially after being up 13 at halftime. Texas isn't good.

  Well yeah, but the point is they were playing each other lol obviously one of them are going to lose. Iowa State, KSU, and Texas are better than MSU, Vandy, and Bama. It's not even close really..the SEC is awful.
  
  With how bad of a day it was for those 2 SEC teams, how can you still say they're quality teams?
  
  Florida loses at home to a bad team, MSU loses at home to a bad team, Vandy will lose tonight at home to the SEC's only good team.
• Mulva

  

  Texas is 1-7 against the RPI top-50 overall. That's awful. ISU is 1-3 (and only 4-5 against the top 100). They have 2 losses to teams with 100+ RPIs. Kansas State clearly has the best resume of the 3, but after losing to Texas today they're 5-7 against the RPI top 100.
  
  Even if you want to discount conference play (laughable) because "the SEC sucks" and the B12 has to play KU, Mizzou, and Baylor - MSU, Vandy, and Bama were 5-4 against RPI top 50 teams OOC. KSU, ISU, and Texas were 3-4. So go ahead and explain how it's not close.
  
  But like I said, Bama is completely fucked and probably won't make the tournament if the suspensions are for more than a game or 2.
• cats gone wild

  Kentucky looks like they are going to pull out the win. Scary 2nd half. Vandy played great the 2nd half after being down by 13. Something about that court that UK and other #1's have problems with it.
• Azubuike24

  

  Still win with Miller and Kidd-Gilchrist in foul trouble all game. I'll take it. Another game where Davis seemingly had 12 blocks but only gets credited with 7.
  
  How about Marquis Teague? 13 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 TURNOVER. Kid is flat out balling it lately. 58 assists to 27 turnovers in SEC play.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Azubuike24;1083404 wrote:How about Marquis Teague? 13 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 TURNOVER. Kid is flat out balling it lately. 58 assists to 27 turnovers in SEC play.

  That's not "flat out balling' that's just not sucking anymore
• centralbucksfan

  As many know, I CANNOT stand Calipari. Nor do I care for UK much at all. That being said, this team is loaded and very good. Too much balance and talent on the floor at any given time. Defensive is what seperates this team from others IMO. If Cal can't win a title with this group, he never will.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Mulva;1083259 wrote:Texas is 1-7 against the RPI top-50 overall. That's awful. ISU is 1-3 (and only 4-5 against the top 100). They have 2 losses to teams with 100+ RPIs. Kansas State clearly has the best resume of the 3, but after losing to Texas today they're 5-7 against the RPI top 100.
  
  Even if you want to discount conference play (laughable) because "the SEC sucks" and the B12 has to play KU, Mizzou, and Baylor - MSU, Vandy, and Bama were 5-4 against RPI top 50 teams OOC. KSU, ISU, and Texas were 3-4. So go ahead and explain how it's not close.
  
  But like I said, Bama is completely fucked and probably won't make the tournament if the suspensions are for more than a game or 2.

  It's not close because like I said before, I don't go off RPI or SoS or any of that bullshit. Why? because you can just look at that and say which one is best, but it may not be true. It's like saying Murray State ranked #7 in the country is better than Kansas who is #10 in the country.
  
  I'm not gonna be on here proving that Texas has a great resume'; they're a bubble team and have the record of a bubble team (not a good one). However, other than Oregon State they have no bad losses. Something none of those 3 SEC teams can say...hell just yesterday Bama and MSU had HORRIBLE losses.
• Azubuike24

  

  SportsAndLady;1083523 wrote:That's not "flat out balling' that's just not sucking anymore

  That's performing like one of the best PG's in the nation when most people called him overrated.
  
  Outside of Scott Machado and Kendall Marshall, who are on another level, Teague's performance in SEC play has been very good.
  
  That's all. I'm not calling Teague an All-American. I'm not even starting to mention him in the same breath as Cal's past 4 PG's...but he's gotten a lot of hate from the media.
• GOONx19

  

  centralbucksfan;1083548 wrote:As many know, I CANNOT stand Calipari. Nor do I care for UK much at all. That being said, this team is loaded and very good. Too much balance and talent on the floor at any given time. Defensive is what seperates this team from others IMO. If Cal can't win a title with this group, he never will.

  Defense is the common thread between all of Cal's teams. Well, that and vacated seasons. People can hate on him all they want, but he consistently gets his teams to play hard on the other end. That's why, regardless of the talent level, his teams will always be in a position to win.
• centralbucksfan

  Azubuike24;1083682 wrote:That's performing like one of the best PG's in the nation when most people called him overrated.
  
  Outside of Scott Machado and Kendall Marshall, who are on another level, Teague's performance in SEC play has been very good.
  
  That's all. I'm not calling Teague an All-American. I'm not even starting to mention him in the same breath as Cal's past 4 PG's...but he's gotten a lot of hate from the media.

  Teague is really good. I feel if Teague, Kidd-Gilchrist were on a team where they would have more focus, either one would be a stud and have the stats to back that up. UK just has so much talent, that on any given game, someone different does their thing. They spread the wealth. Davis get all the PR. But those two are damn good.
• centralbucksfan

  GOONx19;1083685 wrote:Defense is the common thread between all of Cal's teams. Well, that and vacated seasons. People can hate on him all they want, but he consistently gets his teams to play hard on the other end. That's why, regardless of the talent level, his teams will always be in a position to win.

  Maybe so. But what he has with this team, is obvious with Davis. But the rest of those guys have LENGTH. And with Davis sitting in the paint, those other guys can take chances knowing if they get beat, Davis is sitting back in the paint. That is huge when you have that luxury to be able to pressure/gamble and get away with it.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Azubuike24;1083682 wrote:That's performing like one of the best PG's in the nation when most people called him overrated.
  
  Outside of Scott Machado and Kendall Marshall, who are on another level, Teague's performance in SEC play has been very good.
  
  That's all. I'm not calling Teague an All-American. I'm not even starting to mention him in the same breath as Cal's past 4 PG's...but he's gotten a lot of hate from the media.

  He took a lot of hate from the media because he wasn't very good earlier in the year. Now, obviously, he is playing very well.
• reclegend22

  

  I've only watched Anthony Davis play on two or three occasions this season, but he's indisputably the the most dominant game-changer on the defensive end that I've seen in college basketball since Shane Battier at Duke. At near seven feet, he can play the entire floor and be just as big a factor from any other spot as he is underneath the basket patrolling the rim. Davis is just so versatile and, with a wingspan the size of a small airplane, that's just scary. The block he had late in the game at the top of the three-point line to seal the victory for the Wildcats over Vanderbilt was the period on his national player of the year trophy.
  
  Kentucky is terrifyingly good.
• SportsAndLady

  

  reclegend22;1083752 wrote:I've only watched Anthony Davis play on two or three occasions this season, but he's indisputably the the most dominant game-changer on the defensive end that I've seen in college basketball since Shane Battier at Duke. At near seven feet, he can play the entire floor and be just as big a factor from any other spot as he is underneath the basket patrolling the rim. Davis is just so versatile and, with a wingspan the size of a small airplane, that's just scary. The block he had late in the game at the top of the three-point line to seal the victory for the Wildcats over Vanderbilt was the period on his national player of the year trophy.
  
  Kentucky is terrifyingly good.

  Sorry but a block in a win @ Vandy doesn't secure yourself a POY trophy. Defensive POY, sure. But national POY. Him and T-Rob are really the only 2 who will win though. It's 50/50 between the two.
  
  Oh and did you ever watch Greg Oden? He was just as defensively dominant as Davis this year.
• GOONx19

  

  I read somewhere, maybe on here, that Davis is the first NBA-talent center since Adonal Foyle in 1990 (who picked on Patriot League players) to average over 30 minutes and less than 3 fouls per game.
• reclegend22

  

  SportAndLady wrote:Sorry but a block in a win @ Vandy doesn't secure yourself a POY trophy. Defensive POY, sure. But national POY. Him and T-Rob are really the only 2 who will win though. It's 50/50 between the two.

  I do think that Robinson is also deserving and, if he did end up winning the player of the year, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. I do, however, think signature plays such as the game-clinching block Davis secured against Vandy are always helpful toward winning awards such as player of the year. Sensational plays on the national stage are always committed to memory. (Again, not saying that Robinson hasn't had his fair share of memorable performances.) Shane Battier's deflection of a leaping Joe Forte from behind in the Dean Dome in 2001 after it appeared as if Forte had beaten everyone and opened a clear path to a fast break slam dunk is a similar example. The two plays may not be exactly comparable, but they both jump out at me as spectacular acts of athleticism and skill that epitomize the absolute power and influence shared by both Battier and Davis.
  

  SportAndLady wrote:Oh and did you ever watch Greg Oden? He was just as defensively dominant as Davis this year.

  Oden also came to mind, but I don't think he had the multifaceted skills that Davis has as a superior athlete. Davis is not only long and an incredible leaper, but also extremely agile and quick and can move around the floor much more fluidly and affect other aspects of the game than could the more stationary Oden. I just think that Davis presents a more difficult challenge in that he can really run the court and add a layer of versatility with his size that not many near seven-footers can.
• centralbucksfan

  reclegend22;1083790 wrote:
  
  Oden also came to mind, but I don't think he had the multifaceted skills that Davis has as a superior athlete. Davis is not only long and an incredible leaper, but also extremely agile and quick and can move around the floor much more fluidly and affect other aspects of the game than could the more stationary Oden. I just think that Davis presents a more difficult challenge in that he can really run the court and add a layer of versatility with his size that not many near seven-footers can.

  Very comparible when it comes to shot blocking skills/timing. Other than that, Oden was a pure post/back to the basket. Which is actually a very weak area of Davis. He is more comfortable facing the basket. He also doesn't have near the size and strength that Oden had. We really never got to see the real Oden because of injuries. The final game he dominated two pretty damn good players. That miight have been as healthy as he ever was, or has since been.
  Davis reminds me of Camby more than anyone with his frame and how he plays. Not quite as developed offensively yet.
• reclegend22

  

  Marcus Camby is a pretty good comparison for Davis in terms of style of play and physical makeup. Camby, especially in his prime with the Knicks, was a considerably better mid-range spot-up jump shooter (albeit it was often very awkward looking), but, as CBF pointed out, Davis just hasn't fully developed his offensive game yet.