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vball10set

I know what you're saying, jordo, but I also have a hard time believing that this could go on this long without someone above Tressel getting wind of it...it's just doesn't add up.

LJ

vball10set;787638 wrote:I know what you're saying, jordo, but I also have a hard time believing that this could go on this long without someone above Tressel getting wind of it...it's just doesn't add up.

You have to hope and pray that it doesn't. Not sure why anyone would want to be right about that?

vball10set

LJ;787640 wrote:You have to hope and pray that it doesn't. Not sure why anyone would want to be right about that?

I never said I wanted to be right

KnightRyder

Automatik;787529 wrote:That may be the case, but I'm still convinced this entire situation goes much higher up than Tressel.

so am i . where was pryor parking all these different vehicles ? nobody noticed this kid was in the car of month club? i find that hard to believe

Bigdogg

vball10set;787606 wrote:IMO, it will come out that someone else, who is in a higher position than Tressel, knew about this. Just the fact that this business with the cars was going on, as well as the tattoo parlor involvement going back several years, without someone blowing the whistle long ago reinforces my opinion. This is bigger than just the head coach.

Again, all the cars were approved by the OSU compliance department, which the NCAA has used as an example of the best compliance department in the country.

WebFire

Bigdogg;787862 wrote:Again, all the cars were approved by the OSU compliance department

Depends on who you ask.

enigmaax

Bigdogg;787862 wrote:which the NCAA has used as an example of the best compliance department in the country.

Which doesn't mean shit. Tressel was the symbol of honesty and integrity, until he was busted lying. Just sayin'

SportsAndLady

enigmaax;787909 wrote:Tressel was the symbol of honesty and integrity

Tressel is no different than any other big time D1 coach, he just isn't a scumbag off the field. Hence why he gets the honest and full of integrity tag on him.

enigmaax

SportsAndLady;787911 wrote:Tressel is no different than any other big time D1 coach, he just isn't a scumbag off the field. Hence why he gets the honest and full of integrity tag on him.

I doubt most of the guys called "scumbags" are really that either. Anyway, the point is that Bigdogg said the OSU compliance department has been used as an example of "the best"...whatever else, as though that means they can do no wrong. If we never knew it before, the last few months should have been a lesson that reputation or public image isn't always correct. Just like with Tressel, people refused to believe what was being reported because of the pedestal he had been put on. Until he was caught, people had a perception of him as being the most honest person in the world. He isn't, that's all.

Automatik

KnightRyder;787756 wrote:so am i . where was pryor parking all these different vehicles ? nobody noticed this kid was in the car of month club? i find that hard to believe

I've said it on here before. I've seen players driving dealer plated cars for years while working at the Blackwell. I thought was a normal and allowed thing. The majority of the coaches also rolled in dealer rides.

So no car lending is allowed? I was always under the impression that the dealers were partnered up with the university.....lend out cars in exchange for tickets and other perks.

wildcats20

Automatik;787924 wrote:I've said it on here before. I've seen players driving dealer plated cars for years while working at the Blackwell. I thought was a normal and allowed thing. The majority of the coaches also rolled in dealer rides.

So no car lending is allowed? I was always under the impression that the dealers were partnered up with the university.....lend out cars in exchange for tickets and other perks.

The players can not receive a deal that a normal student would not be able to get.

Automatik

wildcats20;787933 wrote:The players can not receive a deal that a normal student would not be able to get.

Then why do it so out in the open? I don't get it.

I always thought they were just "using" the cars, not in their name and actually purchasing them. I'm under the impression that this is what the whole car ordeal is about.....special deals for purchase?

Tobias Fünke

SportsAndLady;787911 wrote:Tressel is no different than any other big time D1 coach, he just isn't a scumbag off the field. Hence why he gets the honest and full of integrity tag on him.

False.

DeyDurkie5

Tobias Fünke;788050 wrote:False.

I mean, how is it false? Tressel made a mistake. EVERY one of his players respects him, and EVERY one who has known him respects him. One mistake doesn't change a man's integrity, and if that was the case then Brian Kelly is the biggest jackass of them all. In fact, his one mistake killed someone. Tressell is only taking this much heat, because OSU is hated by everyone but OSU supporters. Plain and simple.

SportsAndLady

Tobias Fünke;788050 wrote:False.

What is false? That Tressel isn't a scumbag?

LJ

Tobias probably had Tressel want too many Iced Teas while he was being his servant and that pissed him off

Tobias Fünke

DeyDurkie5;788053 wrote:I mean, how is it false? Tressel made a mistake. EVERY one of his players respects him, and EVERY one who has known him respects him. One mistake doesn't change a man's integrity, and if that was the case then Brian Kelly is the biggest jackass of them all. In fact, his one mistake killed someone. Tressell is only taking this much heat, because OSU is hated by everyone but OSU supporters. Plain and simple.

Oh yeah, that's right, everyone hates Ohio State. Cry me a river. Here's what's plain and simple: Tressel has a history of not knowing what his players are doing at crucial moments, and he intentionally kept secret the fact that four of his best players should have been ruled ineligible. That is one mistake, lying about it is another. It constitutes a grave set of errors full of cheating, lying, and overall hypocrisy.

Funny you should bring up Brian Kelly. In the fall, it was told that omniscient Tressel had the decency to know to look out for everyone on the team--including the video crew, and that Brian Kelly knowingly endangered kids after he saw 55-mph weather reports. Now we know that Tressel apparently cared more about what his video guys were doing than his NFL-bound QB, WR, RB, and OL....and that even OSHA agreed the Declan Sullivan tragedy blame shouldn't be placed on Brian Kelly because the weather reports they had on hand weren't dangerous.

It's sorta silly, the guy knows every facet of the program but can't dare to look in the parking lot to see all of the cars Terrelle is cruising around in. He can't get informed that is license is suspended and shouldn't be driving? Don't you all get it? It's a systemic approach to only giving a shit when it behooves Ohio State. It's why we see guys like Chris Wells saying if you don't defend your kids no matter what you're a bad parent--they expect to have Tressel cover up for them. How do you not see the only difference between Ohio State's football program and much of the SEC is that we don't grey-shirt players.

LJ;788086 wrote:Tobias probably had Tressel want too many Iced Teas while he was being his servant and that pissed him off

Probably. :rolleyes:

DeyDurkie5

Tobias Fünke;788088 wrote:Oh yeah, that's right, everyone hates Ohio State. Cry me a river. Here's what's plain and simple: Tressel has a history of not knowing what his players are doing at crucial moments, and he intentionally kept secret the fact that four of his best players should have been ruled ineligible. That is one mistake, lying about it is another. It constitutes a grave set of errors full of cheating, lying, and overall hypocrisy.

Funny you should bring up Brian Kelly. In the fall, it was told that omniscient Tressel had the decency to know to look out for everyone on the team--including the video crew, and that Brian Kelly knowingly endangered kids after he saw 55-mph weather reports. Now we know that Tressel apparently cared more about what his video guys were doing than his NFL-bound QB, WR, RB, and OL....and that even OSHA agreed the Declan Sullivan tragedy blame shouldn't be placed on Brian Kelly because the weather reports they had on hand weren't dangerous.

It's sorta silly, the guy knows every facet of the program but can't dare to look in the parking lot to see all of the cars Terrelle is cruising around in. He can't get informed that is license is suspended and shouldn't be driving? Don't you all get it? It's a systemic approach to only giving a shit when it behooves Ohio State. It's why we see guys like Chris Wells saying if you don't defend your kids no matter what you're a bad parent--they expect to have Tressel cover up for them. How do you not see the only difference between Ohio State's football program and much of the SEC is that we don't grey-shirt players.

Probably. :rolleyes:

if you don't think the nation hates the buckeyes, then you sir are retarded.

thedynasty1998

DeyDurkie5;788100 wrote:if you don't think the nation hates the buckeyes, then you sir are retarded.

The nation hates the Buckeyes? Yea that makes sense.

SportsAndLady

thedynasty1998;788104 wrote:The nation hates the Buckeyes?

I went to New Orleans last year for OU's bowl game...every bar I went to, we would hear "Bring on the Bobcat fans, at least they're not Buckeye fans!"

Went to Vegas last Thanksgiving, when I would tell locals I'm from Ohio U, they would say "oh god I hate the Buckeyes"

There's currently a thread on my KU premium bball board that is 200+ replies about the KU/OSU game next year...lotsssss of hate for the Buckeyes from random KU fans who literally have zero reason to hate OSU.

I'm not one of those people who go around crying 'wahhhh the nation/media hates us!!' (cough cough, writerbuckeye, cough cough)...but to think that the nation does not have some sort of personal hate towards OSU is a bit ignorant

Terry_Tate

thedynasty1998;788104 wrote:The nation hates the Buckeyes? Yea that makes sense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank/_/listId/165/versionId/1#topOfList

Hopefully that works. Rank the teams, submit, and see who is #1 and has the most first place votes.

DeyDurkie5

Terry_Tate;788149 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank/_/listId/165/versionId/1#topOfList

Hopefully that works. Rank the teams, submit, and see who is #1 and has the most first place votes.

thank you sir, dynasty/tobias kindly remove my tea bag from your mouth

thedynasty1998

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

OSU is the biggest University in the country. Everywhere you go you will find fans and those who dislike. Doesn't make OSU the most hated in the country. Just makes them very significant.

karen lotz

Terry_Tate;788149 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank/_/listId/165/versionId/1#topOfList

Hopefully that works. Rank the teams, submit, and see who is #1 and has the most first place votes.

ND is #1 although OSU has the most first place votes. Congrats?

Terry_Tate

thedynasty1998;788172 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

OSU is the biggest University in the country. Everywhere you go you will find fans and those who dislike. Doesn't make OSU the most hated in the country. Just makes them very significant.

That link just shows prestige, nothing about hated. My link which had over 100,000 votes had OSU as the most hated(barely over ND) and had the most first place votes by a lot. I don't think its an open and shut case, but id say any poll you find like that will have Ohio State first, maybe second.

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