Terrelle Pryor and the Supplmental Draft?

• SportsAndLady

  

  vball10set;739325 wrote:LOL-- I don't know the guy, so how can I hate him, especially on a personal level...and besides that, this sentence makes no sense--care to explain it??

  
  You dislike Pryor for his off-the-field "stuff' even though that "stuff" isn't really that bad..you just make it seem bad because you don't like him and need a reason to dislike him.
• ksig489

  SportsAndLady;738280 wrote:Still cannot fathom how human beings can honestly feel anger towards a 20 year old kid for selling something that is theirs, taking advantage of their stardom to obtain certain perks, and living a college life like everyone else is just without the popularity.

  
  WOW! Just WOW!
  
  His college life is NOTHING like everyone else's. The stuff that is "his" was given to him with the understanding that while he is a student and amateur athlete he can not profit off of the items by selling them. He signed a contract (his scholarship papers) that clearly state he can not obtain "perks" without punishment.
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;739330 wrote:You dislike Pryor for his off-the-field "stuff' even though that "stuff" isn't really that bad..you just make it seem bad because you don't like him and need a reason to dislike him.

  
  "thank you" for the explanation, but why would I need a reason to dislike anybody?
• SportsAndLady

  

  vball10set;739347 wrote:"thank you" for the explanation, but why would I need a reason to dislike anybody?

  
  Why do you want the Braxton Miller era to begin, if you don't have any dislike for Pryor?
  
  I rest my case
• SportsAndLady

  

  ksig489;739343 wrote:WOW! Just WOW!
  
  His college life is NOTHING like everyone else's. The stuff that is "his" was given to him with the understanding that while he is a student and amateur athlete he can not profit off of the items by selling them. He signed a contract (his scholarship papers) that clearly state he can not obtain "perks" without punishment.

  
  Who cares? He got some money for shit he earned? You really think thats a serious crime? Lots of people are making MILLIONS of dollars off him..it's not a big deal if he gets a little back in return.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  SportsAndLady;739287 wrote:His legacy in your eyes will be tainted because of his off the field issues...but to many other Buckeye fans. You're going to be a minority.

  
  Do you do to school here? It's a safe estimate to say 3/4 of the campus doesn't like him.
  

  SportsAndLady;739363 wrote:Who cares? He got some money for shit he earned? You really think thats a serious crime? Lots of people are making MILLIONS of dollars off him..it's not a big deal if he gets a little back in return.

  Ohhhhh I don't know, because it would seem to void his amateur status? Because there are numerous ways a booster could buy it from him for an astronomical price? Rules are rules, they knew they broke them.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Tobias Fünke;739371 wrote:Do you do to school here? It's a safe estimate to say 3/4 of the campus doesn't like him.
  
  
  
  Ohhhhh I don't know, because it would seem to void his amateur status? Because there are numerous ways a booster could buy it from him for an astronomical price? Rules are rules, they knew they broke them.

  
  I don't go to school at OSU, but every OSU fan I know has no hatred for Pryor, pre and post tattoo-gate. The only people who seem to have an issue with Pryor are old people, or people who go to OSU who are probably jealous that he can walk into a room and fuck any girl he wants. Haters gonna hate.
  
  And yes I know he broke a rule..I'm not saying he shouldn't be penalized or suspended or anything..I'm saying it should have no effect on someone's perception of Pryor. He is a damn good football player and one of the most successful OSU Qbs in their history, yet some want to pretend like they hate him because he sold some shit...who cares???
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;739362 wrote:Why do you want the Braxton Miller era to begin, if you don't have any dislike for Pryor?
  
  I rest my case

  
  There's a difference between a personal dislike and disliking the way someone conducts himself while representing the football team I support, both emotionally and monetarily. Terrelle Pryor is a helluva athlete, but some of his actions off the field are questionable at best. He's not alone in making mistakes, but my loyalty is to THE OSU, so really don't care what other QB's do. Again, this isn't a personal dislike, because as I said earlier, I don't know the guy.
• SportsAndLady

  

  vball10set;739385 wrote:but some of his actions off the field are questionable at best.

  
  I have yet to see you mention any specifics...you keep saying "some of these actions..." or "what he does off the field" yet you never really say what..besides a few citations and uneducated tweets. Sorry, that's nothing.
• Pick6

  

  ksig489;739343 wrote:WOW! Just WOW!
  
  His college life is NOTHING like everyone else's. The stuff that is "his" was given to him with the understanding that while he is a student and amateur athlete he can not profit off of the items by selling them. He signed a contract (his scholarship papers) that clearly state he can not obtain "perks" without punishment.

  
  his scholarship says he cannot sell gifts? lol
• Pick6

  

  Tobias Fünke;739371 wrote:Do you do to school here? It's a safe estimate to say 3/4 of the campus doesn't like him.
  
  .

  
  Link? or do you know 3/4 of of the student at OSU? LOL
• Terry_Tate

  

  Pick6;739415 wrote:Link? or do you know 3/4 of of the student at OSU? LOL

  
  I still know several people that still go to Ohio State, and from what I've heard from them the 3/4 estimate sounds about right.
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;739403 wrote:I have yet to see you mention any specifics...you keep saying "some of these actions..." or "what he does off the field" yet you never really say what..besides a few citations and uneducated tweets. Sorry, that's nothing.

  
  Are these not "actions off the field"? I've got an opinion, and so do you. Let's see what happens as the season progresses and then we'll chat when it's all over. I'd love for him to have a terrific season, stay classy, and make me hate to see him leave. That being said, I can't wait for the Braxton Miller era to start--and I'll bet I'm not alone.
• SportsAndLady

  

  vball10set;739434 wrote:Are these not "actions off the field"? I've got an opinion, and so do you. I know this might be hard for you to comprehend, but for the last time--let's see what happens as the season progresses and then we'll chat when it's all over. I'd love for him to have a terrific season, stay classy, and make me hate to see him leave.That being said, I can't wait for the Braxton Miller era to start--and I'll bet I'm not alone.

  
  They are actions off the field, but if those REALLY make you say "on to the next one" you are straight delusional.
  
  You are ready for a freshman QB to play, over a senior QB with 3 years experience, because of these minor off the field issues lol it's so hilarious
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;739438 wrote:They are actions off the field, but if those REALLY make you say "on to the next one" you are straight delusional.
  
  You are ready for a freshman QB to play, over a senior QB with 3 years experience, because of these minor off the field issues lol it's so hilarious

  
  LOL--thanks for the diversion today, since Tuesday's pretty much suck anyway--it's always entertaining reading your posts...have a great afternoon.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Classic vball10set response
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;739456 wrote:Classic vball10set response

  
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• SportsAndLady

  

  Yeah cuz I really give two shits whether or not I know all the technical aspects of football [insert one of your weird, creepy smilies here]
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;739362 wrote:Why do you want the Braxton Miller era to begin, if you don't have any dislike for Pryor?
  
  I rest my case

  
  I want a new era to begin because of Pryor's play on the football field. I don't care if it's Braxton, Taylor, or Kenny, whoever proves themselves as ready during the QB competition.
  
  Too many drives have stalled or red zone trips been halted because of Pryor's inability to throw short passes accurately and/or read a defense. It often times seems he'll make 2 or 3 really good plays in a row (which shows potential) and then flub it up. He gets by on his athletic talent alone, and truthfully I think he feels he doesn't have to work as hard because of it (take Michael Vick for example: he has said numerous times he didn't take his job seriously with the Falcons and it wasn't until he was given a second chance that he worked hard enough to improve as a quarterback...I'm not comparing Pryor to Vick I'm saying it would not be unprecedented for someone to take for granted his opportunity).
  
  He also has a selfish and arrogant attitude (that most athletes have so I don't think it's that big of a deal), but I think it affects his leadership ability. He's also a dumbass, which affects the mental side of quarterbacking ability.
  
  You bring up his victories in both bowl games and over Michigan, but those are team victories and I truly feel he was the benefactor of some incredibly talented teams, and the team won despite his mediocre play at quarterback. If he truly was a great quarterback, there wouldn't be a single shred of doubt of his ability to play at the next level, but instead some talent evaluators (not ones on here) mention that they think his only real shot at NFL success is to become a wideout.
• Automatik

  

  vball10set;739434 wrote:Are these not "actions off the field"? I've got an opinion, and so do you. Let's see what happens as the season progresses and then we'll chat when it's all over. I'd love for him to have a terrific season, stay classy, and make me hate to see him leave. That being said, I can't wait for the Braxton Miller era to start--and I'll bet I'm not alone.

  
  I'm with you. Fuck Pryor.
  
  Flat out...he's a dumbass.
• SportsAndLady

  

  lhslep134;739475 wrote:You bring up his victories in both bowl games and over Michigan, but those are team victories and I truly feel he was the benefactor of some incredibly talented teams, and the team won despite his mediocre play at quarterback. If he truly was a great quarterback, there wouldn't be a single shred of doubt of his ability to play at the next level, but instead some talent evaluators (not ones on here) mention that they think his only real shot at NFL success is to become a wideout.

  
  Plenty of GREAT QBs have relied on their teammates to win some games...great QBs win games that otherwise wouldn't have been a victory because of their play...For Pryor, see: Wisconsin two years ago at Camp Randall.
  
  Also, that's dumb to say in order to be great, you need to be evaluated as a good pro....that's just wrong.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;739482 wrote:Plenty of GREAT QBs have relied on their teammates to win some games...great QBs win games that otherwise wouldn't have been a victory because of their play...For Pryor, see: Wisconsin two years ago at Camp Randall.

  
  You make this too easy:
  
  Pryor: See Penn State two years ago in Columbus. He blew that game, no doubt about it. So if he's a great QB because of one game, he's a terrible QB because of one game that he blew. Which one is it? You can't have both. One game doesn't mean anything. OSU's body of work the last 3 years is completely because of the team surrounding Pryor, and not Pryor himself, and if you believe otherwise, you're the ONLY one.
• SportsAndLady

  

  lhslep134;739484 wrote:You make this too easy:
  
  Pryor: See Penn State two years ago in Columbus. He blew that game, no doubt about it. So if he's a great QB because of one game, he's a terrible QB because of one game that he blew. Which one is it? You can't have both. One game doesn't mean anything. OSU's body of work the last 3 years is completely because of the team surrounding Pryor, and not Pryor himself, and if you believe otherwise, you're the ONLY one.

  
  He has a great game and then a bad one...yet you want him gone because of the bad one....and I can't have both?
  
  QBs are allowed to have poor games, lhs. It happens to the best of them. My point, is what makes a QB great, is his ability to put the team on his back and pull out a victory that no one, or very few QBs, could.
• SportsAndLady

  

  lhslep134;739484 wrote:OSU's body of work the last 3 years is completely because of the team surrounding Pryor, and not Pryor himself, and if you believe otherwise, you're the ONLY one.

  
  That statement is absolutely ludicrous and I don't care if I'm the only one...even though I know i'm not.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;739487 wrote:He has a great game and then a bad one...yet you want him gone because of the bad one....and I can't have both?
  
  QBs are allowed to have poor games, lhs. It happens to the best of them. My point, is what makes a QB great, is his ability to put the team on his back and pull out a victory that no one, or very few QBs, could.

  
  No I want him gone because he's a mediocre quarterback. You have nothing but inflated statistics against VASTLY inferior opponents and 2 bowl games in which he had 1 month to be coached up to win as your arguing points, but I have more than 15 games over 3 years that Terrelle Pryor was either mediocre or sucked in.
  
  Oh and your other arguing point? Wins? A team effort, and like I said, from watching wayyyy too much gametape preparing for broadcasts, the team won DESPITE Pryor's mediocrity instead of winning because of him.