Rose Bowl: Ohio State vs. Oregon

• namod65

  

  thedynasty1998 wrote: For those predicting a win by OSU, what makes you think that OSU can beat them?
  
  I hope OSU wins as much as the next guy, but I honestly don't know what you see that gives you confidence in this game other than the fact that we are OSU fans.

  Like I said before, it's called tackling. We do it well, Oregon State doesn't.
  
  I wasn't that impressed with Oregon. All they did was throw the ball out wide and let their receivers make a one-on-one play. Well against Oregon State that worked, they broke A LOT of tackles out wide. Jermale Hines, Devon Torrence, and Chimdi Chekwa are NFL caliber defenders. They don't miss open field one-on-one tackles.
  
  Many of Oregon's long runs were set up by their running back charging into a pile, have nothing there so he backs up, breaks a few pathetic arm tackles and reverses field for a big gain. You will not be able to just reverse the field against this Ohio State defense, they are one of the best out there.
• Tiernan

  Don't get cocky Bomar, the Ducks are a talented offensice football team and can score a bunch quickly (if allowed to have the ball...) but the pace Tress will try to establish in this game will be the downfall of ORE. No Pac 10 teams play D like the Bucks. Very similar scenario to the 2001 NC game w/ Miami, they simply had not had anybody come after them like that in their reg season. And when faced with that kind of rush and hitting power they panicked. My thoughts are the Ducks will do likewise.
• devil1197

  Ohio State doesn't have to open it up, they can win playing Tresselball and it may be the only way to win against an offense like Oregon. If you think OSU can suddenly open it up constantly then you are crazy, this is not the game to throw what got you there out the window.
  
  Ohio State offense is running the ball extremely and the great thing is that their long sustained drives instead of quick hitter. Ohio State will use their offense to keep Oregon's off the field. Once again there is nothing wrong with OSU's offense, Pryor just needs to execute. Against PSU and UM he left 21 points combined on the field by nearly missing his WR's (which would push OSU points to 28 and 31) on perfect play calls by Tressel while in other games he hits Posey or Dane. OSU CAN control the offensive line because quite frankly I think the OSU line is way better than Oregon's on both sides. Oregon's defense has not been impressive at all this season which is a main reason why OSU's style of offense can win this game.
  
  Ohio States defense will have one major group that Oregon hasn't faced all year. Our defensive line is one of, if not, the best in the nation. OSU will be able to have DE's like Gibson and Williams (remember Texas game) that are athletic and mobile to contain the option. Heyward has been amazing this year along with the DT's with great push up the middle. These guys will control the LOS. OSU has two 1st round DE's on the field along with basically a whole line shift of other DL's that will be ready to stop the run.
• vball10set

  thedynasty1998 wrote: For those predicting a win by OSU, what makes you think that OSU can beat them?
  
  I hope OSU wins as much as the next guy, but I honestly don't know what you see that gives you confidence in this game other than the fact that we are OSU fans.

  first of all,stop pretending you are an OSU fan--it's condescending and insulting....
  
  now,IMO,Oregon has not faced a defense close to OSU's,and when OSU played USC,they did so with an Oline that was not only young and inexperienced,but playing out of position as well--also,TP now has a better understanding of his role within the offensive system JT has set up for him,and is playing turnover free football..but the main reason I think OSU will win this game--special teams
• norwalk

  The Buckeyes have been on a roll rushing for more than 200+ yards and I don't see this trend ending in this game.
  
  tOSU 38
  Oregon 27
  
  Go Bucks !!!
• Little Danny

  

  Ohio State wins this one in a close one (something like 30-27). OSU's defensive front will get a lot of pressure on Masoli forcing misktakes. He will likely turn the ball over at least 2-3 times. I predict OSU will get at least one TD from the defense and possibly a field goal.
  
  Pryor will likely rush for as many yards as he passes. I think Oregon's defense will have a tough time bringing him down.
• devil1197

  What has Oregon done to make you think they are a great overall team?
  
  OSU PF: 29.3 PA: 12.2
  
  Oregon PF: 37.7 PA: 23.6
  
  PSU and Iowa are ranked in the Top 10 in the NCAA in total defense, may not be great but they are better than any defenses Oregon has faced. When have you ever seen Tressel put up more points needed in the 4th quarter already up 10+ like in the UM game? Ohio State passed the ball 2 times in the 4th quarter, one being to Posey that would have been a TD. Face it, there is absolutely no difference in a 21-10 win compared to a 41-30 win. Defense wins championships.
  
  So because Oregon is more impressive because they score more ppg? But neglect the fact that they give up basically twice as many points as Ohio State has.
• ytownfootball

  

  The shiny, new, flashy run n' shoot, spread option flavor of the day offense vs. tried and true snot knockin' defense.
  
  LOL, I'll take defense all day long and twice on Saturday.
• thedynasty1998

  

  I honestly don't think Oregon is better athletically than OSU. I just think that OSU's bland offense might be their downfall.
  
  As for Iowa and Penn State's defenses, I'm sorry, but I think the Big 10 is horrible. That is why their defensive statistics look impressive. When Penn State is one of the best in the Big 10, I have doubts about the overall strength of the conference considering how bad they looked at times, and the pathetic schedule they played.
  
  I don't think you can say that the Oregon defense didn't see more explosive offenses throughout the year can you? You had USC, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona and Washington. All of those teams can score, and I'm probably missing someone.
  
  
  It's obviously two teams of contrasting styles. One that wants to up the tempo and outscore you. The other is ball control, slow down the game and rely on your defense. I don't know which one is right, but considering the Big 10's recent record in Bowl games I think the Big 10 might be outdated.
  
  But maybe this is the year when it all turns around.
• devil1197

  ytownfootball wrote: The shiny, new, flashy run n' shoot, spread option flavor of the day offense vs. tried and true snot knockin' defense.
  
  LOL, I'll take defense all day long and twice on Saturday.

  Especially with the complete defensive line that OSU has lacked in previous years. Their not only good but they are athletic. Gibson and Williams are basically OLB's playing DE for OSU.
• 0311sdp

  The fact that Ohio State won the big ten in what was a rebuilding year for the Buckeyes shows that it was a down year in the Big Ten. The Big Ten needs Michigan to be relavent again and I don't see it with Richrod at the controls. You're right Penn State and Iowa were mediocre and the Big Ten is looking at very few Bowl wins A) because the Big Ten teams usually are placed in Bowls they should not be in because they all travel well (sell tickets, spend money) so all the bowls want a big ten team. B) This was a down year in the Big Ten even by their own lousy standards of the past few years. But the Buckeyes should be able to handle an Oregon team that won the PAC 10 conference which was not much better than the Big Ten this year, while Penn State and Iowa will probably get crushed by the 3rd and 4th place SEC schools.
• devil1197

  thedynasty1998 wrote: I honestly don't think Oregon is better athletically than OSU. I just think that OSU's bland offense might be their downfall.
  
  As for Iowa and Penn State's defenses, I'm sorry, but I think the Big 10 is horrible. That is why their defensive statistics look impressive. When Penn State is one of the best in the Big 10, I have doubts about the overall strength of the conference considering how bad they looked at times, and the pathetic schedule they played.
  
  I don't think you can say that the Oregon defense didn't see more explosive offenses throughout the year can you? You had USC, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona and Washington. All of those teams can score, and I'm probably missing someone.
  
  
  It's obviously two teams of contrasting styles. One that wants to up the tempo and outscore you. The other is ball control, slow down the game and rely on your defense. I don't know which one is right, but considering the Big 10's recent record in Bowl games I think the Big 10 might be outdated.
  
  But maybe this is the year when it all turns around.

  How is it that OSU's offense is bland when its very similar to Oregon's? Just because Oregon has to score 30+ and consistently have their offense in attack mode because of their lack of defense.
  
  Masoli only has 238 yards more passing that Pryor on 27 more attempts. Yards per throw are almost identical 7.25 and 7.09.
  
  Pryor has more TD's but with 5 more INT's which have been limited in the big games (1 in the last 3). Masolia has a 5.0 higher Passer Rating.
  
  The running games are very similar but Oregon had 1 main back this year with James instead of split carries with Saine and Herron for OSU. Masoli and Pryor have similar yards with Masoli getting the ball more near the goal line for TD's.
  
  These offenses are very similar with one main difference. OSU's defense lets Tressel put OSU's offense into slow down mode (Wisky, UM, PSU etc.) while Oregon's defense contiunally has the offense coming onto the field with a mindset of either getting a little cushion or coming from behind.
• ytownfootball

  

  Yeah, the BIG10 blows but they have had 3 teams in the top 10-15 all season long...in a down year....
• vball10set

  thedynasty1998 wrote: Hey douche, I am an OSU fan. Just not the type that wants to suck off Tressel like you. I'm sorry that you get upset when someone doesn't agree with you, but that makes you look like the child.
  
  Act like an adult and have a discussion without getting all defensive. I think OSU might have trouble with Oregon. Could I be wrong? Absolutely.
  
  But I haven't seen anything from OSU this year that makes me think they are that good of a team.
  
  And since when did OSU's running attack become so great? Sure they ran all over Iowa and Michigan, but I don't consider them great defenses either. Ohio State scored 24 against Michigan, and I think Oregon's defense is probably better than that.
  
  I guess I'm just pessimistic, but I'm just not real confident in this OSU team, let alone Tressel's coaching ability in big games.

  hey jerkoff,are we done calling each other names yet? I could give a ratsass if you agree with me or not...there's nothing worse than an internet tough guy who proclaims to be a "fan" of a team yet rips them every chance they get--do us all a favor and either change teams,or leave--nobody likes you
• Swamp Fox

  Sometimes logic just messes things up. I just think that it's time for Ohio State to go out there and win a football game. They have the players to get the job done and if they play four solid quarters of football, they will win. Not necessarily because they should, but because it's time. Go Bucks!!!
• believer

  

  Cleveland Buck wrote:

  believer wrote: The Buckeyes unfortunately are about to sink below sea-level in BCS bowls (4-5 all-time) which, ironically will be pretty much the same track record as OSU's "fortunes" in the Rose Bowl.
  
  Prediction:
  
  Oregon 35
  Ohio State 28

  Ohio State is currently 4-3 in BCS bowls, so you will have to wait at least another year for them to drop below .500 in BCS bowls. Sorry.
  
  1999 Sugar Bowl def. 6 Texas A&M 24-14
  2003 Fiesta Bowl def. 1 Miami (FL) 31-24
  2004 Fiesta Bowl def. 10 Kansas State 35-28
  2006 Fiesta Bowl def. 6 Notre Dame 34-20
  2007 BCS National Championship lost to 2 Florida 41-14
  2008 BCS National Championship lost to 2 LSU 38-24
  2009 Fiesta Bowl lost to 3 Texas 24-21

  I stand corrected on my OSU in BCS games facts but my observation is still valid.
• Hesston

  

  Ohio State will win this game, let the hate begin, espn calls Oregon a 'heavy favorite', Cowherd homer pac 10 guy says Oregon will win. Buckeyes get no respect anywhere
• jpake1

  

  As of right now, I'd have to say Oregon 31 Ohio State 24
• believer

  

  Hesston wrote: Ohio State will win this game, let the hate begin, espn calls Oregon a 'heavy favorite', Cowherd homer pac 10 guy says Oregon will win. Buckeyes get no respect anywhere

  When they start winning the higher-profile games, things may change.
• sleeper

  

  I hope the media props up Oregon so when the Buckeyes stomp them it'll be considered a good win.
  
  However, we all know no matter what, if Ohio State wins, Oregon will be overrated.
• DaBrowns41

  This could be a low scoring game with Ohio State not having an offense, but having a great defense.
  
  I still think Ohio State will win this game when it comes down to it. I'm looking forward to this game.
  
  Reminds me a lot of the Kansas State game in 2004 with El Roberson and Darren Sproles on the KSU offense and Ohio State pulling out the victory because of their defense in the end.
• royal_k

  

  Hopefully Tressel has learned from the last 2 NC Games, that during the month of preperation, you have to change a few things on offense. Against both Florida and LSU, they had no wrinkles or surprises on offense. They need to put something in that hasn't been seen before. I do believe they will still be able to run the ball. But that alone, won't get it done. I am fairly confident we win this game. TBone made a good point. Oregon is a completely different team away from home. And they havn't seen a defensive line like the Buckeyes will throw at them. Plus TP has really settled in and knows his role.
  
  Buckeyes win 31-20
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Hesston wrote: Ohio State will win this game, let the hate begin, espn calls Oregon a 'heavy favorite', Cowherd homer pac 10 guy says Oregon will win. Buckeyes get no respect anywhere

  It isn't disrespect for someone to pick against Ohio State. jpake did right below you and I bet he's a more passionate Buckeye fan than most of the people that have posted on this thread. And Oregon probably should be considered a heavy favorite--considering they have one common opponent and we lost to them and Oregon STOMPED them. Doesn't mean OSU can't win, I think we'll win it, but it's not disrespect.
• devil1197

  Well Oregon has two common opponents Purdue and USC.
  
  Oregon will be a favorite but not heavy. There is no reason for Vegas to put Oregon has a heavy favorite.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Yeah, well I don't count Purdue. OSU wasn't themselves that day, and neither was Oregon when they played them. Seems like both teams fell asleep against them.
  
  But then again, that only makes what I said more relevant. Oregon should be favored--2 common opponents, 2 wins for Oregon, 2 losses for OSU. That's a big part of how odds are determined even though it really doesn't mean jack shit for this game.