Fellow OSU fans, I have a question.

• Jester

  

  First of all, i'd like to say that what I believe what Pryor and the rest did was incredibly stupid. What I fail to understand though, is why everyone is so up in arms against them. Have they not gave us great moments in the years they've been here? Sure, maybe we didn't win a national championship like some were hoping, but they've gave us multiple Big Ten Championships, extended the win streak against Michigan, beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl last year, etc, etc.
  
  Have we forgot all that? Why so much hate? Does selling a sportsmanship award or a pair of pants really eliminate all the other things they've done for OSU and its fanbase? Was it an incredibly stupid thing to do, yes I believe so. But now I see posts calling them "pieces of shit" and other degrading remarks. Should we judge them on the one bad thing they've done, or should we judge them on what they've done, both on and off the field, their entire career? I'm sure all of us have made some stupid decisions before. Would you want someone to judge you on that, or would you want someone to take a look at your whole life and the good things you've done in it? Like I said, what they did was incredibly stupid, but they've also done some good things for OSU. Let's not forget that.
• Pick6

  

  ^completely agree
• j_crazy

  

  Selling the gold pants and championship rings while still in school I can never forgive.
• dwccrew

  

  It may take a lifetime to build a respectable reputation and only a second to ruin it. These guys have ruined their's.
• SportsAndLady

  

  It's fuckin gold pants..I could give two shits
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  dwccrew;614241 wrote:It may take a lifetime to build a respectable reputation and only a second to ruin it. These guys have ruined their's.

  
  +1.
  
  If they really cared about the program, the history and the school, they would not have done that.
  It was a solid three years, and they helped win titles, but they did not respect what those titles meant.
  I'll look back at them like I look back at MoC now. What potential.
• Pick6

  

  ptown_trojans_1;614245 wrote:+1.
  
  If they really cared about the program, the history and the school, they would not have done that.
  It was a solid three years, and they helped win titles, but they did not respect what those titles meant.
  I'll look back at them like I look back at MoC now. What potential.

  they sold the stuff back in 08..when they were freshman. dont you think there is a chance they didnt understand the history then? why didnt they sell 09s stuff? maybe they realized..
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Pick6;614250 wrote:they sold the stuff back in 08..when they were freshman. dont you think there is a chance they didnt understand the history then? why didnt they sell 09s stuff? maybe they realized..

  
  Still. Doesn't make up for it. They should have known. Geesh, as a Freshman I knew all the traditions. I figured these idiots would figure out the significance of those awards. But, no, they needed to make a buck.
  
  So, so did I in college, but I didn't see anything of mine.
• SportsAndLady

  

  ptown_trojans_1;614253 wrote:Geesh, as a Freshman I knew all the traditions.

  
  Yeah? What's your point? Not everyones like you.
• Jester

  

  I keep hearing the word "tradition". How big of a value do you think players give to tradition? And i'm not just talking about OSU, I'm talking about any school. With the way college sports are today, you don't have to go to a college with great tradition and prestige to get noticed. Oregon is a prime example. They don't exactly have a great tradition or anything, yet players and fans seem to be falling in love with them. Tradition is falling to the wayside, IMO, and i'm not sure a lot of people understand that.
• karen lotz

  

  Pick6;614250 wrote:they sold the stuff back in 08..when they were freshman. dont you think there is a chance they didnt understand the history then? why didnt they sell 09s stuff? maybe they realized..

  
  
  Sports by Brooks had on his twitter yesterday or the day before pictures from the tattoo parlor's owner's facebook. He had pics of gold pants from '09 (they have the score on them) and a Big Ten Championship ring from last year also. That doesn't necessarily mean any of the suspended players sold those and it could have been a senior who exhausted eligibility that sold them. Either way someone didn't realize the history and tradition then.
• Pick6

  

  karen lotz;614281 wrote:Sports by Brooks had on his twitter yesterday or the day before pictures from the tattoo parlor's owner's facebook. He had pics of gold pants from '09 (they have the score on them) and a Big Ten Championship ring from last year also. That doesn't necessarily mean any of the suspended players sold those and it could have been a senior who exhausted eligibility that sold them. Either way someone didn't realize the history and tradition then.

  
  whats your point? This is about the 5 suspended players. I never said everyone realizes/cares about the tradition. There is nothing about 2009 gold pants and big ten championship rings being sold by these guys to my knowledge. You never know what circumstances might have came up for them to sell them though, not every OSU player makes the pros.
• karen lotz

  

  You asked why they didn't sell the 09 stuff, did you not? Someone did and it very easily could have been any of the suspended players. I said there was no mention of who sold those things but if you are telling me it isn't possible, then I don't know what to tell you.
• Pick6

  

  karen lotz;614297 wrote:You asked why they didn't sell the 09 stuff, did you not? Someone did and it very easily could have been any of the suspended players. I said there was no mention of who sold those things but if you are telling me it isn't possible, then I don't know what to tell you.

  
  Im sure if the suspended players sold the 09 stuff, that would have been found out as well. It could have been any player on the 09 team.
• karen lotz

  

  Which is what I said. If its a senior, then he didn't realize the tradition. If it was one of the guys who were suspended, they didn't realize...
• darbypitcher22

  

  j_crazy;614235 wrote:Selling the gold pants and championship rings while still in school I can never forgive.

  
  This.
• Tiernan

  Remember when Terrelle was being "mentored" by LeBron? One POS molding another younger turd. I think deep down inside we all knew what kind of character this kid had and actually expected him to FK Up royally somewhere, sometime. He only proved what our guts were already telling us.
  
  Not knowing the traditions and what those traditions represent to the overall history of Buckeye football is inexcusable and unpardonable. Don't for a second believe these punk thugs didn't know what they were doing was wrong to about the zillionth degree. And none of their "poor poor struggling Mamas" ever saw one Fk'n dime of that money. It all went to bling, video games, gangsta gear and probably some other shit most of you would find very disturbing. You can damage a lifetime of respect with one unforgivable decision.
• FatHobbit

  

  I think a lot of people are over reacting. They broke an NCAA rule and apparently don't give a shit about the traditions or awards. But what they did was not illegal and nobody got hurt. If they want to sit out however many games they need to sit out and then come back to play I'll be ok with that. If they decide it's too many games and bolt to the NFL, then good luck to them. I probably won't root for them in the NFL though.
• Tiernan

  ccrunner609;614433 wrote:I cant wait for all you to start sucking his dick during the bowl game when he is wearing out Arkansas D.

  I will be pulling for the team to win this game, but I hope the Razorbacks knock his dick in the dirt.
• queencitybuckeye

  I'm not buying the concept that because one sells the trinkets associated with an accomplishment, it means they are minimizing the accomplishment itself.
• oberhaus

  

  queencitybuckeye;614460 wrote:I'm not buying the concept that because one sells the trinkets associated with an accomplishment, it means they are minimizing the accomplishment itself.

  +1. The accomplishment was still made and cant be taken away. So what if they sold the little symbol from doing said thing.
  
  
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• FatHobbit

  

  queencitybuckeye;614460 wrote:I'm not buying the concept that because one sells the trinkets associated with an accomplishment, it means they are minimizing the accomplishment itself.

  
  If they cared, I don't think they would be selling their little trinkets. If I had one, I would never sell it.
• thedynasty1998

  

  It was idiotic and selfish, but I agree. If they didn't value their gold pants, who gives a shit. I don't have a problem with them selling that stuff, I have more of a problem with them knowing it was wrong and doing it anyways.
• vball10set

  Tiernan;614426 wrote: And none of their "poor poor struggling Mamas" ever saw one Fk'n dime of that money. It all went to bling, video games, gangsta gear and probably some other shit most of you would find very disturbing. You can damage a lifetime of respect with one unforgivable decision.

  This is something that has struck a nerve with me...if you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, don't say you were doing it to feed the homeless--man up and take responsibility--you got C-A-U-G-H-T.
• queencitybuckeye

  FatHobbit;614488 wrote:If they cared, I don't think they would be selling their little trinkets. If I had one, I would never sell it.

  
  Some people don't give a damn about symbols (I'm one of them). While I would have taken great pride in accomplishing a Big-10 title or a win over the Maize and Blow, any sort of trophy would now be in a box or a drawer somewhere, or have been given away.