Who would you rather have: Denard Robinson or Taylor Martinez?

• Hb31187

  

  vball10set;513887 wrote:I get the fact that you like Denard, and that's great--you should...but please don't embarrass yourself by playing the "on pace to" card--unless you have a crystal ball you're not telling us about

  Im embarrassing myself because im saying at the same point in their careers one player is putting up better numbers then the other?
  
  
  Kinda like all those OSU fans must of been "embarrassing themselves" during the off season threads where they were saying Pryor is on pace to be better than Vince?
• vball10set

  WebFire;513885 wrote:Umm...so you think TP is as good as he'll get? I'm WAY over not getting TP.

  why would I think that? where in the hell did that come from??
• WebFire

  So what about the crystal balls that say Denard will get hurt in the Big 10? Please, that was a terrible argument. Football is full of predictions and comparisons. How many games do you think Michigan loses this year?
• WebFire

  vball10set;513891 wrote:why would I think that? where in the hell did that come from??

  
  Because I said TP was still trying to find his upswing, and you asked why.
• vball10set

  WebFire;513894 wrote:How many games do you think Michigan loses this year?

  
  I think they'll go 8-4
• vball10set

  WebFire;513896 wrote:Because I said TP was still trying to find his upswing, and you asked why.

  please define his "upswing"? this should be good.....
• WebFire

  vball10set;513904 wrote:please define his "upswing"? this should be good.....

  
  OMG. Really? Do you know what upswing is?
  
  Yes or no. Denard's upswing is more than TP's?
• WebFire

  vball10set;513902 wrote:I think they'll go 8-4

  
  So where did you get that? You have a crystal ball or something.
  
  See how that works? It has nothing to do with UM losing.
• centralbucksfan

  Hb31187;513889 wrote:Im embarrassing myself because im saying at the same point in their careers one player is putting up better numbers then the other?
  
  
  Kinda like all those OSU fans must of been "embarrassing themselves" during the off season threads where they were saying Pryor is on pace to be better than Vince?

  
  What numbers are you talking about? Wins and losses? Completely different systems, coaching philosophies...no way can you compare numbers of these two players.
• vball10set

  WebFire;513914 wrote:OMG. Really? Do you know what upswing is?
  
  Yes or no. Denard's upswing is more than TP's?

  I know what the definiton of "upswing" is, I just found it hilarious that you used it in reference to Pryor in your post. I'd like to hear what YOUR definition is, and why you feel he's still "trying to find it".....women :rolleyes:
• Hb31187

  

  centralbucksfan;513924 wrote:What numbers are you talking about? Wins and losses? Completely different systems, coaching philosophies...no way can you compare numbers of these two players.

  
  Maybe not the rushing, but hes right on pace with passing as well
• vball10set

  WebFire;513919 wrote:So where did you get that? You have a crystal ball or something.
  
  See how that works? It has nothing to do with UM losing.

  LOL--you're strange...entertaining, but strange
• vball10set

  Hb31187;513928 wrote:Maybe not the rushing, but hes right on pace with passing as well

  fixed it for ya'
• Hb31187

  

  vball10set;513934 wrote:fixed it for ya'

  Haha thanks
• centralbucksfan

  Hb31187;513928 wrote:Maybe not the rushing, but hes right on pace with passing as well

  
  I think they are comparable in their development. But again, this was the first decent defense that Robinson went against today. He threw 3 picks against it. Last year, Pryor struggled at times against good defenses as well. This year, Pryor is leaps and bounds from where he was last year. He has control of the offense, is able to read defenses and spreads the ball all over the field. He still has his moments on a couple passes a game. But overall, his improvement is very impressive IMO. He will never have the rushing numbers that Robinson has had...thats not the OSU system. But last week, Pryor had 100yds rushing and Tressel said he called on 2 rushing calls for Pryor to run. That tells you what he would be capable of doing if he has been in a RichRod system. When their careers are over...Robinson will have many more rushing yards and Pryor will have many more passing yards IMO. Its just the difference in the systems. Currently, there is no question that Pryor is a much more polished QB. But he has a year on Robinson as well.
• WebFire

  Why? Because you think Pryor has no upswing? You think he's as good as he gets?
• WebFire

  vball10set;513931 wrote:LOL--you're strange...entertaining, but strange

  
  You seem really dense tonight. Did you dye your hair blonde?
• hoops23

  

  Pryor >>>>>>>> DR.
  
  QBing is more than scrambling against bad defenses.
  
  
  Also, of course Michigan fans would take DR over Taylor. If Taylor were in Maize and Blue, they'd be slobbing all over him.
• Hb31187

  

  centralbucksfan;513958 wrote:I think they are comparable in their development. But again, this was the first decent defense that Robinson went against today. He threw 3 picks against it. Last year, Pryor struggled at times against good defenses as well. This year, Pryor is leaps and bounds from where he was last year. He has control of the offense, is able to read defenses and spreads the ball all over the field. He still has his moments on a couple passes a game. But overall, his improvement is very impressive IMO. He will never have the rushing numbers that Robinson has had...thats not the OSU system. But last week, Pryor had 100yds rushing and Tressel said he called on 2 rushing calls for Pryor to run. That tells you what he would be capable of doing if he has been in a RichRod system. When their careers are over...Robinson will have many more rushing yards and Pryor will have many more passing yards IMO. Its just the difference in the systems. Currently, there is no question that Pryor is a much more polished QB. But he has a year on Robinson as well.

  I agree that the rushing numbers are obviously gonna be in DR's favor because of the system and the amount of carries that DR gets in the Rich Rod offense. But the passing, honestly this year i see DR equaling that of TP's sohompre year or coming very very close to doing so.
  
  Next year though DRs jr year compared to TP this year I think the total yards will be close to even but TP will have a significant advantage in the passing yards, OSU seems to be trusting TP to drop back and pas thsi year and hes not disappointing
• Hb31187

  

  hoops23;513992 wrote:Pryor >>>>>>>> DR.
  
  QBing is more than scrambling against bad defenses.
  
  
  Also, of course Michigan fans would take DR over Taylor. If Taylor were in Maize and Blue, they'd be slobbing all over him.

  
  This post makes you look real ignorant if you think thats all DR does.
• centralbucksfan

  Hb31187;513995 wrote:I agree that the rushing numbers are obviously gonna be in DR's favor because of the system and the amount of carries that DR gets in the Rich Rod offense. But the passing, honestly this year i see DR equaling that of TP's sohompre year or coming very very close to doing so.
  
  Next year though DRs jr year compared to TP this year I think the total yards will be close to even but TP will have a significant advantage in the passing yards, OSU seems to be trusting TP to drop back and pas thsi year and hes not disappointing

  
  
  
  Maybe so. But like today...UM could be playing from behind MUCH more then OSU/Pryo did. So UM will be forced to open it up and throw the ball quite a bit. And just like today..OSU was up big at half. Pryor had almost 300yds passing already. Tressel shut it down in the second half.
  Thats why its tough to compare just numbers.
• ts1227

  

  Holy hell, this thread had NOTHING to do with TP. Another case of trolling derailing a discussion between 2 QB'S not named Terrelle Pryor.
• Fly4Fun

  

  Eh, let's face it. It's an Ohio based board. Almost every discussion is going to somehow turn into involving OSU.
  
  I get annoyed when people constantly act surprised that on an Ohio based message board the majority of discussion of college football tends to come back to Ohio State when Ohio state football is easily the biggest sport team in a HUGE football crazy sport state.
• ts1227

  

  It's an Ohio based board, but look how it got inserted into the conversation here... it didn't just work it's way in gently over time (which happens a lot due to the demographics, obviously) and the conversation continues rationally, it was shoehorned in by a troll and it made the conversation start to fall apart and turn into a pissing match. Those are two completely different things.
  
  Just because there are more people who root for one team over the other doesn't equate to free reign to ravage every thread not involving it.
• centralbucksfan

  ts1227;514008 wrote:Holy hell, this thread had NOTHING to do with TP. Another case of trolling derailing a discussion between 2 QB'S not named Terrelle Pryor.

  
  Hey ...OSU and UM FANS were rationally discussing, on a civil bases DR and TP. Not just OSU fans.