Is Brady Quinn hurting Claussen

• bartsimpson

  Can't help but think that the lack of success that Brady Quinn has had is hurting Jimmy Claussen in the draft and may be why he wasn't selected last night. Two similar style QB's, both from ND who couldn't win a big game. I really don't see the fascination with Claussen. To me you'd be out of your mind to take him ahead of Tebow or McCoy, and at least one team (Broncos) agrees with me. Gotta think the Browns will go QB. I truly hope they take Claussen....(I'm a Steelers fan). I laughed for 3 days when they took Quinn, and I'll do the same if they take Claussen....
• 0311sdp

  I hope they take McCoy, he is tough and a winner, Claussen is neither one. Yes, I think Quinn's lack of success hurt Claussen.
• Mr Pat

  Been playing at Notre Dame for three years and it's still just one s in his name. As for his lack of toughness 0311, I ask you, did you watch him, at all?? Because you questioning his toughness just screams, "I have no idea what I'm talking about."
• Little Danny

  

  I'm sure it has. That being said, he was at best the 2nd quarterback in this class (Bradfrod clear #1). Denver made a surpise pick to grab Tebow, if they had not, I could have seen the possibility that no other quarterback would have went in the draft last night. With the availability of Claussen, McCoy, Kafka , Pike and Lefevour (none of which are a once in a lifetime type of franchise qb in the mold of an Elway or a Peyton Manning) teams are addressing other needs first.
• 0311sdp

  Mr Pat wrote: Been playing at Notre Dame for three years and it's still just one s in his name. As for his lack of toughness 0311, I ask you, did you watch him, at all?? Because you questioning his toughness just screams, "I have no idea what I'm talking about."

  Yes, I watched him play a lot and if you think that Jimmy Clausen is as physical of a football player as Colt McCoy then you don't watch much football (as you acused me of) I'm saying as a Brown's fan that my preference of the QBs that are left would be McCoy 1st then Clausen because to be the Brown's QB you will need to be able to take a beating week in and week out until Holmgren can improve the teams overall talent level, (which right now is pretty bad in all areas)
• Mr Pat

  First off, you never mentioned being physical, you said Clausen doesn't have toughness, now you're trying to spin it, but it's still wrong. So I will stick with my original post and not change around what I actually said. You want toughness, rewatch Clausen's freshman year and see how many times he went to the bench or stepping into a throw where he knew he was going to get blasted. Or playing almost his entire senior with torn ligaments in his toe... Zero toughness.
• 0311sdp

  Mr Pat wrote: First off, you never mentioned being physical, you said Clausen doesn't have toughness, now you're trying to spin it, but it's still wrong. So I will stick with my original post and not change around what I actually said. You want toughness, rewatch Clausen's freshman year and see how many times he went to the bench or stepping into a throw where he knew he was going to get blasted. Or playing almost his entire senior with torn ligaments in his toe... Zero toughness.

  We don't agree and I'm not arguing about it anymore. I think McCoy is tougher, you think Clausen is. I still think Quinn's lack of success hurts Clausen and Denver must not think he can play or they wouldn't have drafted Tebow. By the way, are you a ND fan? just curious.
• Mr Pat

  I'm not saying if either is tougher because I haven't watched of McCoy, I just think it's ridiculous to say Clausen doesn't have toughness which is what you said in your original post, "I hope they take McCoy, he is tough and a winner, Claussen is neither one."
  
  I never disagreed with the original premise of the topic, I think that Quinn is hurting Clausen too. However; I don't really think Denver picking Tebow isn't them thinking Clausen can't play, because they didn't take McCoy either and I don't think anybody (outside of Denver) had Tebow above McCoy and Clausen. And yes I am a Notre Dame fan, so I watched Clausen every week and saw him take one hell of a beating on a team with a horrible defense.
• CinciX12

  

  I think that not being able to spell his name correctly is a good identifier of who actually knows what they are talking about and who is talking out of their ass. I dislike Jimmy for a variety of reasons, even as an ND fan, but to say the kid isn't tough with the literal ass beating he took weekly is crazy.
  
  He certainly never had to come out after 5 plays like the bad ass Colt McCoy.
• bigkahuna

  1. I thought Jimmy was a Jr.
  
  2. Maybe Denver didn't want 2 QBs from the same school, under the same coach, playing in the same system, playing one the same team?
  
  I think they went with Tebow because he was in a different offense compared to Quinn (and Orton for that matter) and could possibly bring something different to the table. Why they didn't take Colt, I have no idea.
• 0311sdp

  Mr Pat wrote: I'm not saying if either is tougher because I haven't watched of McCoy, I just think it's ridiculous to say Clausen doesn't have toughness which is what you said in your original post, "I hope they take McCoy, he is tough and a winner, Claussen is neither one."
  
  I never disagreed with the original premise of the topic, I think that Quinn is hurting Clausen too. However; I don't really think Denver picking Tebow isn't them thinking Clausen can't play, because they didn't take McCoy either and I don't think anybody (outside of Denver) had Tebow above McCoy and Clausen. And yes I am a Notre Dame fan, so I watched Clausen every week and saw him take one hell of a beating on a team with a horrible defense.

  I didn't mean that drafting Tebow had anything to do with Clausen, I didn't make myself clear, I was talking about Quinn. And if my Browns draft Clausen, I'll be rooting like a wild man every week for him to turn them around. Notre Dame talent wise was not a horrible team, especially on offense. Their defense was bad and they didn't make the key plays on offense, and since you're a fan I understand you sticking up for your guys.
• Mr Pat

  Oh I agree (outside of their line) their offense was really good. The defense was just pathetic and while there were games where the offense didn't make enough plays, but if the defense did even a mediocre job, they wouldn't have had to.
• 0311sdp

  It took a while, but I agree.
• killer_ewok

  

  How "physical" does a QB really need to be? Especially in the NFL.
  
  Clausen exhibited "toughness" quite often at ND as he played through injuries, took a licking rather frequently and hung in there taking shots from defenders and kept getting up for more.
  
  If you don't consider him "tough" after seeing/hearing all of that.......you're hard to impress.
• 0311sdp

  OK, he's tough, I admit I'm just a Notre Dame hater who does'nt want to give him credit for anything.
• 77Legend

  

  Yes. Great job Charlie Weis!
• yobro08

  0311sdp wrote: I hope they take McCoy, he is tough and a winner, Claussen is neither one. Yes, I think Quinn's lack of success hurt Claussen.

  ....real tough during the national championship
• rock_knutne

  Good comments on Clausen's toughness, ANYONE questioning the kid's guts and toughness is clueless!
• september63

  

  Jan 10 2010 I stated on a now closed thread. Golden Tate wont get drafted in the first round and the ND homers called me an idiot. Rock Knute being one of them.
• karen lotz

  

  september63 wrote: Jan 10 2010 I stated on a now closed thread. Golden Tate wont get drafted in the first round and the ND homers called me an idiot. Rock Knute being one of them.

  That is relevant to this thread, good work??
• september63

  

  Yea, because the closed thread was titled Clausen and Tate going to the NFL. I stated I didnt like either one of them but did think Clausen might go 1st round but knew Tate wouldnt.
• rock_knutne

  september63 wrote: Jan 10 2010 I stated on a now closed thread. Golden Tate wont get drafted in the first round and the ND homers called me an idiot. Rock Knute being one of them.

  Because you are an idiot.
• ksig489

  Maybe Clausen didnt get drafted early because he is a loser at QB. Losses to Michigan and Navy the last few years? How in the world could that be seen as a QB who can turn a pro team around?
• rock_knutne

  ^^^^^Do some research before you post. Clausen had extremely good numbers in those games (all year for that fact), it was the defense who couldn't stop anyone all year long who's to blame.
• sleeper

  

  ND fans completely forgot about the epic flop that Brady Quinn was, but apparently NFL GM's(and anyone with half a brain) knows if you attend ND you will be terrible and lose bowl games.
  
  ND football = powderpuff schedule, zero bowl wins, epic LOL