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Is Brady Quinn hurting Claussen

  • sjmvsfscs08
    Well if Notre Dame sucks, why does that matter?

    And how did Troy Smith do against Tim Tebow in 2006? :s
  • rock_knutne
    I see sleeper and "PP"runner's ignored post's on here. Just pay no attention to those douche bags, sleeper is a piece of shit and "PP" is just that......a dick! They never have anything substantial to add to the discussion except for being assholes.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Well sleeper is truly a little girl. ccrunner at least is somewhat creative. Both would benefit greatly form realizing there's always a bigger fish.
  • sleeper
    You guys just don't like us 'trolls' because we don't sugar coat the truth about ND. The insults are LOLtastic though, I suppose that's what I would resort to too if my team was god awful year in year out.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Show me one post in which an Irish fan says Notre Dame has been good lately.

    You've surpasses "troll" status, that is ccrunner. You sir, are nothing more than a bitch crying out for attention.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Can you disprove that a number of highly-regarded recruits haven't chosen Notre Dame? I'm fairly certain I set you straight on that topic. As for the coaches, Notre Dame fans had a lot to be excited about, can you deny that? Willingham won his first ten games, and it was a mirage. Weis was predicted to start out 0-6, but went 9-3 and 10-3 in his first two season. The reality is Willingham was a joke, 2003 was a fluke, and Weis was a capable offensive coordinator but couldn't cope with the idiosyncrasies of being a college coach and not an NFL coordinator. But when you win a slew of Superbowls, who wouldn't be excited? Although I very clearly remember killer_ewok being anti-Weis quite often.

    I think you're exaggerating.
  • Mr Pat
    ccrunner609 wrote:
    sjmvsfscs08 wrote: Show me one post in which an Irish fan says Notre Dame has been good lately.

    You've surpasses "troll" status, that is ccrunner. You sir, are nothing more than a bitch crying out for attention.
    for years on JJ the ND nutchasers always talked it up and they were set straight by people like me.

    And it never stops, ND has the greatest recruits ever, greatest coaches ever.........ect.
    Link? Or is it just how you remember it?
  • killer_ewok
    sleeper wrote: You guys just don't like us 'trolls' because we don't sugar coat the truth about ND. The insults are LOLtastic though, I suppose that's what I would resort to too if my team was god awful year in year out.
    The reason I don't like the trolls has nothing to do with "the truth about ND." I don't sugar coat the truth about ND, their coaching, players, etc. I've told it like it is to the point where I've been criticized by some of my fellow ND fans. That's fine.

    The reason I don't like the trolls is because their only purpose is to go out of their way to annoy people. We know ND has has stunk for the better part of the last 15 years. Most of us acknowledge that and admit it. Of course, the trolls feel the need to repeat the same (un)witty shit over and over again. They're beating a dead horse....just to be assholes. That's why not only ND fans don't care for you....but many of your own fan base call you out for being jerks.

    So if it's not just us ND fans voicing our disdain for you.....what does that tell you?
  • ksig489
    Clausen got drafted late. It is a reality. Why? It is a combination of his character issues and the fact that he simply isnt that good. He is NOT a proven winner, and if history has shown us anything it is that if there are "questions" about a players character it almost always turns out that they in fact DO have a "questionable" character.
  • sleeper
    killer_ewok wrote:
    sleeper wrote: You guys just don't like us 'trolls' because we don't sugar coat the truth about ND. The insults are LOLtastic though, I suppose that's what I would resort to too if my team was god awful year in year out.
    The reason I don't like the trolls has nothing to do with "the truth about ND." I don't sugar coat the truth about ND, their coaching, players, etc. I've told it like it is to the point where I've been criticized by some of my fellow ND fans. That's fine.

    The reason I don't like the trolls is because their only purpose is to go out of their way to annoy people. We know ND has has stunk for the better part of the last 15 years. Most of us acknowledge that and admit it. Of course, the trolls feel the need to repeat the same (un)witty shit over and over again. They're beating a dead horse....just to be assholes. That's why not only ND fans don't care for you....but many of your own fan base call you out for being jerks.

    So if it's not just us ND fans voicing our disdain for you.....what does that tell you?
    There's a few fans on here that don't admit they are terrible, most notably Rock Knute, and as long as he continues to spout off, so will I.
  • rock_knutne
    ^^^^^I just happen to be logged off the site and saw your post. I've openly admitted that ND is and has been down. Please show me one post where I say ND is a world beater or call them great? You can't, so go crawl back in to your hole you low life!
  • sjmvsfscs08
    ksig489 wrote: Clausen got drafted late. It is a reality. Why? It is a combination of his character issues and the fact that he simply isnt that good. He is NOT a proven winner, and if history has shown us anything it is that if there are "questions" about a players character it almost always turns out that they in fact DO have a "questionable" character.
    Yeahhhh you lost all credibility since you think this actually matters.
  • karen lotz
    ccrunner609 wrote: Maybe if he would of actually played for a better coach and team he would of went higher
    Good call. Just think, if he would have played for Trestle and the fuckin bucks he might have been #1 overall!!!!
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Well they wouldn't have lost to Purdue, that's for sure.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Basically what the intelligent people on here thought, Clausen is a monster of a quarterback but a Californian douchebag. The players on the Panthers seem to agree.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/06/despite-rave-reviews-jimmy-clausen-has-a-long-way-to-go-to-unseat-matt-moore/
  • ksig489
    sjmvsfscs08 wrote:
    ksig489 wrote: Clausen got drafted late. It is a reality. Why? It is a combination of his character issues and the fact that he simply isnt that good. He is NOT a proven winner, and if history has shown us anything it is that if there are "questions" about a players character it almost always turns out that they in fact DO have a "questionable" character.
    Yeahhhh you lost all credibility since you think this actually matters.
    Apparantly the NFL thinks things like this matter. If things like that didnt matter, maybe Clausen would have gone in the first round. There are a lot of guys who go in the first round who have character issues every year. Clausen obviously has those plus the mantle of PROVEN LOSER.

    Hell...he even lost to Michigan.
  • ksig489
    sjmvsfscs08 wrote: Basically what the intelligent people on here thought, Clausen is a monster of a quarterback but a Californian douchebag. The players on the Panthers seem to agree.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/06/despite-rave-reviews-jimmy-clausen-has-a-long-way-to-go-to-unseat-matt-moore/
    Did you actually READ that article? NOTHING in there says that the players on the Panthers think he is a "monster of a quaterback". All it says is that they dont like him...and that is in his first days with the team!

    The article cites an "unnamed team official"...one person who says Clausen had a good camp...but then goes on to say otherwise. It also suggests that the team official may be fabricating Clausen's performance as a way to keep pushing the starting QB and keep him from getting complacent.
  • killer_ewok
    ksig489 wrote:
    sjmvsfscs08 wrote:
    ksig489 wrote: Clausen got drafted late. It is a reality. Why? It is a combination of his character issues and the fact that he simply isnt that good. He is NOT a proven winner, and if history has shown us anything it is that if there are "questions" about a players character it almost always turns out that they in fact DO have a "questionable" character.
    Yeahhhh you lost all credibility since you think this actually matters.
    Apparantly the NFL thinks things like this matter. If things like that didnt matter, maybe Clausen would have gone in the first round. There are a lot of guys who go in the first round who have character issues every year. Clausen obviously has those plus the mantle of PROVEN LOSER.

    Hell...he even lost to Michigan.
    So what does the fact that the winningest QB in college football history didn't get picked until after Clausen was drafted say? I guess if "things like this mattered so much to the NFL".....McCoy would've been picked MUCH earlier.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    ksig489 wrote:
    sjmvsfscs08 wrote: Basically what the intelligent people on here thought, Clausen is a monster of a quarterback but a Californian douchebag. The players on the Panthers seem to agree.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/06/despite-rave-reviews-jimmy-clausen-has-a-long-way-to-go-to-unseat-matt-moore/
    Did you actually READ that article? NOTHING in there says that the players on the Panthers think he is a "monster of a quaterback". All it says is that they dont like him...and that is in his first days with the team!

    The article cites an "unnamed team official"...one person who says Clausen had a good camp...but then goes on to say otherwise. It also suggests that the team official may be fabricating Clausen's performance as a way to keep pushing the starting QB and keep him from getting complacent.
    Well this basically disproves that entire argument. :D I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, which I was. Poor researching on my part, never trust NBC.

    http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2010/05/weighing-in-on-smith-clausen.html
  • KnightRyder
    is quinn hurting clausen? when you get down to it, who cares