Help w/ a lease/sublease situation

• Skyhook79

  

  Fab1b;1121768 wrote:Just drop by each day only to use the restroom and flush multiple times while using as much electric and water as possible why there.

  Yeah stoop to her level instead of doing the right thing and paying for the month he verbally agreed to and walk away with lesson learned. smh
• Skyhook79

  

  Steel Valley Football;1121764 wrote:If you pay for the whole month then don't you have the rights to a key and access to the place for the month you paid?

  No, not necessarily and why would he want to do that?
• FatHobbit

  

  Skyhook79;1121844 wrote:No, not necessarily and why would he want to do that?

  To drop by whenever he wanted. Turn all the lights. Leave the water running. Make a lot of noise when she is sleeping. etc...
• Skyhook79

  

  FatHobbit;1121933 wrote:To drop by whenever he wanted. Turn all the lights. Leave the water running. Make a lot of noise when she is sleeping. etc...

  Good advice.:rolleyes:
• Gblock

  i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time
• j_crazy

  

  Yep. Make her sue you.
• justincredible

  

  Gblock;1121947 wrote:i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time

  
  Wouldn't he have to pay court costs if he lost?
• FatHobbit

  

  SportsAndLady;1121755 wrote:When she showed us the apartment, it wasn't dirty at all, but there were boxes everywhere but she was like this will all be cleaned up when u guys move in. Yeah, that was a bunch of bullshit.

  SportsAndLady;1121667 wrote:And take for the future your word is your signature. Good words to live by. That's why the law works like that."

  Is the chick you are renting from the same one who said the place would be clean?
• LJ

  

  While you wouldn't be able to seek damages or even win a court case, it really sound like constructive eviction by the other roomate.
• Gblock

  i would pay her for six days and not a dollar more
• Gblock

  and court costs are probably only 75 bucks or less im guessing
• Fab1b

  

  Skyhook79;1121843 wrote:Yeah stoop to her level instead of doing the right thing and paying for the month he verbally agreed to and walk away with lesson learned. smh

  
  SMH
• SportsAndLady

  

  FatHobbit;1121957 wrote:Is the chick you are renting from the same one who said the place would be clean?

  No, first girl is my roommate. Second girl is who im subleasing from.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Gblock;1121947 wrote:i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time

  Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.
  
  She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.
• LJ

  

  SportsAndLady;1122005 wrote:Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.
  
  She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.

  Tell her that you feel it was a case of constructive eviction due to the conditions changing drastically. Say you have pictures and video of the conditions, blah blah blah. See what she does.
• SportsAndLady

  

  justincredible;1121956 wrote:Wouldn't he have to pay court costs if he lost?

  Not to mention pay my attorney. All over $365 which yeah it sucks to pay but its whatever ill be getting paid fairly well soon anyways.
• Gblock

  SportsAndLady;1122005 wrote:Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.
  
  She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.

  yea they always say that....and the letter really means nothing that is her trying to scare you...a letter doesnt even mean anything. i bet shes too lazy to sue you
• SportsAndLady

  

  LJ;1122007 wrote:Tell her that you feel it was a case of constructive eviction due to the conditions changing drastically. Say you have pictures and video of the conditions, blah blah blah. See what she does.

  I stupidly didn't take pictures or videos but I did have 6 different people see the place while I was there for the 6 days and they all said how disgusting it was and would be a witness in court if needed.
• Gblock

  u wont need an attorney either. just go to court and say you wanted to live there and you got there and it was dirty and offer to pay for the six days. i bet you would win.
• sleeper

  

  Don't pay her anything. Wait until she actually files suit(she won't). Then pay her. Chances are, she doesn't want to spend that kind of money just to be an ahole to you, because if she sues you its going to cost her time and money.
  
  If you go to small claims court, tell them you'll agree to pay for 6 days because of how disgusting the situation was.
• McFly1955

  

  Pay her in pennies, a giant box of pennies.
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  SportsAndLady;1121543 wrote:So I just recently moved to Chicago. Found a place to sublease at until June 31. I moved in last Saturday (3/10) and picked up the sublease papers from the landlord. I had to get the lady I was subleasing for, and the roommate's signature on this paper as well as mine. I emailed her to come sign this and she said she will be out of town until 3/16. So I just sat on the papers until she got back.
  
  In the 6 days of living there, I thought I was going to be sick at how disgusting this chick was that I was living with. There was food left out for what looked like to be more than a week, moldy drinks sitting around, kitchen had no counter space because it had nasty dishes out, there were cockroaches in the bathroom, and the place smelled like a rotten animal or a dead rotten human being (either one works).
  
  So, yeah, I moved out and am now living at a friend's apartment's extra room for less money a month.
  
  She just left me a voicemail saying "call me asap, I heard you moved out..when are you going to pay me my money"
  
  Before I call her back...am I off the hook for the rent money? I mean I didn't sign anything...but I did live there for 6 days without paying anything. Do I have to give her money for the 6 days I lived there?

  Pay her for the 6 days and move on. Don't be a cheap bastard. If you stayed their for 6 days, why would you think you don't owe her 6 days worth of rent?!
• dlazz

  Pay in $2's, $1 coins, and pennies.
• FatHobbit

  

  McFly1955;1122062 wrote:Pay her in pennies, a giant box of pennies.

  Don't bother to count them. Let her do it and tell you how much more you owe her.
• fan_from_texas

  Interesting situation. As LJ mentioned, laws on things like this vary drastically from state-to-state and from city-to-city. If her place actually was unlivable, and you reasonably relied on her assurances that it was livable, and you can demonstrate both of those, you potentially could have a case. The problem is that even if you have a case, it can cost more to win than it does to lose (e.g., do you want to pay an atty a few hundred bucks an hour to represent you? Do you want to pay court costs? Do you want to deal with the hassle? Do you want to run the risk of having a judgment against you?).
  
  She can (and probably will) file in small claims court if you don't pay her the full amount. You'll be at the mercy of the Cook Cty court system at that point.
  
  The problem with dealing with lawyers is that they're all certain they're going to win, and they assume that if they can't win, they can at least bully you into doing what they want. In many instances, it's best to wash your hands of it and move on without fighting over it. Consider it an expensive lesson learned and move on.