Justin, Forgive Me, And Lock This As Well If Necessary.

• Upper90

  Close this if necessary. But, I was away from freehuddle the past few days.
  
  I come back to see Belly mention me, not once, but TWICE, in the context of, "Hey Upper, can't you fill some of us in on derogatory slang terms for other cultures?"
  
  And,
  
  "Upper, I'm sure you've heard things in your rap CD's, does that make you say ummmm... too?"
  
  First off, give me a break. Now, I'm all for taking the token black guy jokes here and there. But when it becomes a platform for hate, ignorance, and racism, I'm out. (Especially in THAT case, where it was a topic I had long since given up on commenting on.) I understand that everyone on here hasn't had the most frequent interaction with people outside of their own race. I get that, and I don't even knock it. What I DO knock, Belly, since this is to you in particular, is your obvious lack of self education, and then pawning it off on the "everyone's a little racist" excuse.
  
  I, for one, am NOT a "little bit racist", and am disgusted by ANY of you that cop to that as an easy out. It was a shame to read some of the stuff on the old huddle, and it's a shame to read it now.
  
  Again, delete this if you want, or lock it, or what have you. But, it would be irresponsible of me not to say what I felt, as an intelligent black man, called out by a less than intelligent racist.
• v_falcons

  is this the same belly from JJHuddle? I liked him over there, but whoever the "Belly" is over here, not so much..
• wes_mantooth

  

  No reason to lock this or delete......you are right on.
• ts1227

  

  It's the same Belly.
  
  Once JJ's opened the Politics forum the true Belly emerged and had been on a rampage ever since.
  
  I was generally against having politics on here simply because of how bad it got over there, and of some of the people that would follow.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Well said.
  
  I saw where Belly had called you out twice, and thought it was in very poor taste.
  
  In my opinion I believe Belly should be banned for the comments he was spewing on this board over the last few days.
• GoPens

  

  Just do us all a favor and put the banhammer on Belly. He's nothing but an ignorant, racist, ass that likes to stir up trouble.
• LJ

  

  ts1227 wrote: It's the same Belly.
  
  Once JJ's opened the Politics forum the true Belly emerged and had been on a rampage ever since.
  
  I was generally against having politics on here simply because of how bad it got over there, and of some of the people that would follow.

  Politics forum here is nothing like it was over there, at least, I hope not.
• ts1227

  

  He did make racist remarks directly at a site member... asking for it.
• ts1227

  

  LJ wrote:

  ts1227 wrote: It's the same Belly.
  
  Once JJ's opened the Politics forum the true Belly emerged and had been on a rampage ever since.
  
  I was generally against having politics on here simply because of how bad it got over there, and of some of the people that would follow.

  Politics forum here is nothing like it was over there, at least, I hope not.

  The people are still the same, and their opinions are still the same. There's only going to be so much you can do.
• wes_mantooth

  

  GoPens wrote: Just do us all a favor and put the banhammer on Belly. He's nothing but an ignorant, racist, ass that likes to stir up trouble.

  The problem with that is that we are trying not to ban anyone. We just figured we would leave that thread and let everyone let loose on him and his obvious racist comments.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  Upper90 wrote: Close this if necessary. But, I was away from freehuddle the past few days.
  
  I come back to see Belly mention me, not once, but TWICE, in the context of, "Hey Upper, can't you fill some of us in on derogatory slang terms for other cultures?"
  
  And,
  
  "Upper, I'm sure you've heard things in your rap CD's, does that make you say ummmm... too?"
  
  First off, give me a break. Now, I'm all for taking the token black guy jokes here and there. But when it becomes a platform for hate, ignorance, and racism, I'm out. (Especially in THAT case, where it was a topic I had long since given up on commenting on.) I understand that everyone on here hasn't had the most frequent interaction with people outside of their own race. I get that, and I don't even knock it. What I DO knock, Belly, since this is to you in particular, is your obvious lack of self education, and then pawning it off on the "everyone's a little racist" excuse.
  
  I, for one, am NOT a "little bit racist", and am disgusted by ANY of you that cop to that as an easy out. It was a shame to read some of the stuff on the old huddle, and it's a shame to read it now.
  
  Again, delete this if you want, or lock it, or what have you. But, it would be irresponsible of me not to say what I felt, as an intelligent black man, called out by a less than intelligent racist.

  I back Upper 100% ... just give Belly the boot. The guy brings nothing to the table except hate and an alarmingly low IQ.
• LJ

  

  ts1227 wrote:

  LJ wrote:

  ts1227 wrote: It's the same Belly.
  
  Once JJ's opened the Politics forum the true Belly emerged and had been on a rampage ever since.
  
  I was generally against having politics on here simply because of how bad it got over there, and of some of the people that would follow.

  Politics forum here is nothing like it was over there, at least, I hope not.

  The people are still the same, and their opinions are still the same. There's only going to be so much you can do.

  Well, opinions are opinions, but I don't allow name calling or racism, so hopefully it opens up the exchange of ideas, rather than attacking others.
• Fab1b

  

  
• ts1227

  

  wes_mantooth wrote:

  GoPens wrote: Just do us all a favor and put the banhammer on Belly. He's nothing but an ignorant, racist, ass that likes to stir up trouble.

  The problem with that is that we are trying not to ban anyone. We just figured we would leave that thread and let everyone let loose on him and his obvious racist comments.

  I get (and appreciate) that we don't want to be the gestapo here. But, there's a difference between making some generally racist comments, and making them directly to a member. It's been made personal. That is COMPLETELY different.
• GoPens

  

  wes_mantooth wrote:

  GoPens wrote: Just do us all a favor and put the banhammer on Belly. He's nothing but an ignorant, racist, ass that likes to stir up trouble.

  The problem with that is that we are trying not to ban anyone. We just figured we would leave that thread and let everyone let loose on him and his obvious racist comments.

  I understand what you're trying to do...not be like the Nazi's who run the other site, however you risk losing readers and credibility by not enforcing even a little common sense on some rules on here. As was said above, it's one thing to make racist comments, however this was directed to a member--ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS.
• Upper90

  I mean, for me, personally...I've got little interest in him being banned, and I know how the site wants to be run, and I respect that.
  
  I was just shocked, and truly taken aback. I mean, that was a topic I commented on in the first page, and maybe jokingly once after? And in neither of my comments did I insult, or disrespect Belly in any way, unless he took "Ummm...." as a direct attack (But, I'm sure anytime a black person is "not in their place" in Belly's mind, it's some kind of attack), so I was shocked, and a bit annoyed to even have to read the stuff he had to say, but I also don't get offended easily.
  
  I can SMH and move on, but it just gets old, on a lot of different levels.
• v_falcons

  was he randomly bringing upper up? if so, wow..that's even more messed up..
• wes_mantooth

  

  ts1227 wrote:

  wes_mantooth wrote:

  GoPens wrote: Just do us all a favor and put the banhammer on Belly. He's nothing but an ignorant, racist, ass that likes to stir up trouble.

  The problem with that is that we are trying not to ban anyone. We just figured we would leave that thread and let everyone let loose on him and his obvious racist comments.

  I get that we don't want to be the gestapo here. But, there's a difference between making some generally racist comments, and making them directly to a member. It's been made personal. That is COMPLETELY different.

  I didn't read the comment that were directed at upper......I guess I need to reread that thread.
• LJ

  

  Upper Come-on Son You have heard more racist and bigot comments in one Rap CD does that make you go Ummmm ...... also?

• Apple

  

  Is there an ignore function on this site?
• ts1227

  

  wes_mantooth wrote: I didn't read the comment that were directed at upper......I guess I need to reread that thread.

  When I read what Upper quoted to open this, I see them as a direct attack, it is a little open to interpretation I suppose.
• Chesapeake

  

  Crazy stuff!
  
  Maybe Belly thinks because he was in the military that for him it's anything goes.
  
  Bet his old ass don't know how to change an ip, probably can't spell it either.
• LJ

  

  Apple wrote: Is there an ignore function on this site?

  Yeah, in userCP
• queencitybuckeye

  v_falcons wrote: was he randomly bringing upper up? if so, wow..that's even more messed up..

  Worse, there was nothing random about it.
  
  Upper, FWIW, this and any other site is better with you as a part of it, so I hope bad money won't drive out good, so to speak. People far more advanced in years could take lessons in maturity from you.
• ytownfootball

  

  Upper90 wrote: I mean, for me, personally...I've got little interest in him being banned, and I know how the site wants to be run, and I respect that.
  
  I was just shocked, and truly taken aback. I mean, that was a topic I commented on in the first page, and maybe jokingly once after? And in neither of my comments did I insult, or disrespect Belly in any way, unless he took "Ummm...." as a direct attack (But, I'm sure anytime a black person is "not in their place" in Belly's mind, it's some kind of attack), so I was shocked, and a bit annoyed to even have to read the stuff he had to say, but I also don't get offended easily.
  
  I can SMH and move on, but it just gets old, on a lot of different levels.

  The more exposure to his rants, we all get a little more perspective on how ignorant his type of thinking really is. Though, I do agree that we all know his stance and it's getting old.