Is Being Gay "Normal?"

• Skyhook79

  

  dwccrew;1080027 wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  What Chapter and Verse does God say that?
• Skyhook79

  

  dwccrew;1080027 wrote:There is a logical fallacy in your argument here. If man's most natural instinct is to have sex with a woman, why do gay men have the natural instinct to have sex with men? IMO, it is a naturally occuring phenomenon that occurs in a minority of the human and animal population. While it may seem odd, because it is not that common, it is normal.
  
  Is somone with blonde hair not normal just because it is not a common trait? I believe gay people are born gay, therefore it is a normal occuring thing, just not common.
  

  How do you explain the 10,000's of men and women who got married to the opposite sex, had kids and then decided after several years they wanted to be Gay?
• justincredible

  

  Skyhook79;1080090 wrote:How do you explain the 10,000's of men and women who got married to the opposite sex, had kids and then decided after several years they wanted to be Gay?

  I would explain it as them being afraid to come out of the closet for fear of how others would react until finally they just didn't care anymore.
• Skyhook79

  

  justincredible;1080096 wrote:I would explain it as them being afraid to come out of the closet for fear of how others would react until finally they just didn't care anymore.

  So if that were true then it would (homosexuality) affect other people's lives then right?
• justincredible

  

  Skyhook79;1080113 wrote:So if that were true then it would (homosexuality) affect other people's lives then right?

  Absolutely, which is why I think homosexuality should be illegal.
• justincredible

  

  Or, on a serious note, what does someone being a homosexual and marrying a straight person and having a family have to do with two homosexuals marrying? Derp.
• Skyhook79

  

  justincredible;1080120 wrote:Or, on a serious note, what does someone being a homosexual and marrying a straight person and having a family have to do with two homosexuals marrying? Derp.

  I didn't say it did. I was disputing the "people are born Gay" theory.
• justincredible

  

  Skyhook79;1080125 wrote:I didn't say it did. I was disputing the "people are born Gay" theory.

  But you didn't dispute that. At all.
• dlazz

  Skyhook79;1079728 wrote:That's what I thought.

  It's actually a website registered to the Westboro Baptist Church, which is why I said it.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  OSH;1079995 wrote:I guess I just don't understand why there is SO much emphasis on LGBT awareness these days.
  
  Why can't people just go on without some sort of "agenda" that they have to put to the forefront? It's everywhere. It's the "hot topic" to talk about and make sure people know about.

  Because people have this tendency to speak out when they perceive injustice is going on in America, and to many it is unjust that LGBT people are marginalized in society. If they weren't marginalized, there really wouldn't be any reason for awareness now would there?
• Skyhook79

  

  justincredible;1080131 wrote:But you didn't dispute that. At all.

  Yes, Yes i did.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  dlazz;1080134 wrote:It's actually a website registered to the Westboro Baptist Church, which is why I said it.

  Ya dude, that group that protests at dead soldiers' funerals is sooooo fun/funny to pretend to agree with.
• dlazz

  Mooney44Cards;1080140 wrote:Ya dude, that group that protests at dead soldiers' funerals is sooooo fun/funny to pretend to agree with.

  I know. It's almost as absurd as saying gay people aren't normal and acceptable in society.
• justincredible

  

  Skyhook79;1080137 wrote:Yes, Yes i did.

  You saying that in some cases homosexuality does affect others disputes that people are born gay? That doesn't make any sense. At all.
• OSH

  

  Mooney44Cards;1080136 wrote:Because people have this tendency to speak out when they perceive injustice is going on in America, and to many it is unjust that LGBT people are marginalized in society. If they weren't marginalized, there really wouldn't be any reason for awareness now would there?

  Okay. But aren't there more "injustices" going on in the country?
  
  Aren't there a lot of problems that affect WAY more people than what the LGBT community has? The LGBT community makes up less than 1% of all of the US -- this is WAY down from what they "estimated" at 10% of the US. I understand standing up for injustices, but to me, there are many more things that could be moved to the top of the list of injustices compared to the "homosexual marriage" debate.
  
  The way that I see it, the main "injustice" that is being talked about is whether lesbians and gay men should be able to get "married." Why is it such a big deal? Honestly? I just don't see why marriage is the biggest issue here. The same benefits could be had if a person just sets their Will up to allow for everything to go to their significant other.
  
  I just don't understand why this is pushed to the top of the "injustice" list and EVERY media outlet has to talk about it constantly. I don't need to be made aware of the LGBT issues when I go to ESPN.com. It doesn't need to be there, but it is. I say the same think about the "pink" movement with breast cancer.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  OSH;1080158 wrote:Okay. But aren't there more "injustices" going on in the country?
  
  Aren't there a lot of problems that affect WAY more people than what the LGBT community has? The LGBT community makes up less than 1% of all of the US -- this is WAY down from what they "estimated" at 10% of the US. I understand standing up for injustices, but to me, there are many more things that could be moved to the top of the list of injustices compared to the "homosexual marriage" debate.
  
  The way that I see it, the main "injustice" that is being talked about is whether lesbians and gay men should be able to get "married." Why is it such a big deal? Honestly? I just don't see why marriage is the biggest issue here. The same benefits could be had if a person just sets their Will up to allow for everything to go to their significant other.
  
  I just don't understand why this is pushed to the top of the "injustice" list and EVERY media outlet has to talk about it constantly. I don't need to be made aware of the LGBT issues when I go to ESPN.com. It doesn't need to be there, but it is. I say the same think about the "pink" movement with breast cancer.

  But its important TO THEM. What is with the lack of empathy from people nowadays?! Just because you do not understand something does not make that something wrong. To be empathetic is to understand where people are coming from, and be able to put yourself in their shoes and approximate how YOU would feel if something that important to you was being denied.
  
  Sure, you don't understand why marriage is a big deal to them, why not just live together and shut up about it and live happily ever after, right?! Wrong. I imagine you're straight. Imagine if the government told you that you couldn't marry your girlfriend/wife/whoever because her name ended in a vowel. Stupid right? Why would the government disallow marriage over such a stupid arbitrary thing. To someone else who's lady friend's name didn't end in a vowel they might tell you big whoop, just live together get over it. But is that fair? So it doesn't matter if it seems trivial to you or you feel like there are bigger problems in the world. You don't get to decide what is a cause worth fighting for and what isn't for anyone except yourself.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Skyhook79;1080137 wrote:Yes, Yes i did.

  you are a moran
• Fab1b

  

  I don't get why people think gays shouldn't be allowed to get married? I used to have those views years ago, and views about gays in general years ago I'm not proud of either. Then I got out into the big world and saw there was more to the world then just my little town in NW Ohio. Alot of my views have changed, including on race and sexual preference. I don't care if one is gay it doesn't affect me either way and I don't care if they get married. Now that I also have gay friends over the years I have learned alot and that they didn't choose that path, they knew they were from day 1!
• isadore

  ernest_t_bass;1079551 wrote:LOL. Nope.

  then you can continue living a lie
• vball10set

  Fab1b;1080209 wrote:I don't get why people think gays shouldn't be allowed to get married? I used to have those views years ago, and views about gays in general years ago I'm not proud of either. Then I got out into the big world and saw there was more to the world then just my little town in NW Ohio. Alot of my views have changed, including on race and sexual preference. I don't care if one is gay it doesn't affect me either way and I don't care if they get married. Now that I also have gay friends over the years I have learned alot and that they didn't choose that path, they knew they were from day 1!

  :thumbup: w/reps
• isadore

  Raw Dawgin' it;1079556 wrote:lol your entire argument is based on twisting words and leaving out details from someones argument

  I realize reading and comprehending are not in your skill set.
• hasbeen

  

  dlazz;1080142 wrote:I know. It's almost as absurd as saying gay people aren't normal and acceptable in society.

  
  We have a winner.
• Fab1b

  

  Also just a thought on the marriage piece as well....marriage isn't free. Weddings and marriages contribute to local economies and of course local and state govts would rake in the $$ from the licensing etc.....So along with my view that they should be able to get married I would think the economy benefits from it as well, no?</SPAN>
• Mooney44Cards

  

  Fab1b;1080217 wrote:Also just a thought on the marriage piece as well....marriage isn't free. Weddings and marriages contribute to local economies and of course local and state govts would rake in the $$ from the licensing etc.....So along with my view that they should be able to get married I would think the economy benefits from it as well, no?

  No because less straight people would get married because "well its no fun now that the gays have it."
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1079572 wrote:It's the only way he can feel as if he his justified in hie position.

  we get your input, one of the local homophobes.