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Piece of crap people, and how you handle them

  • SportsAndLady
  • Glory Days
    dwccrew;812550 wrote:Seriously? How did he not let you leave? He blocked his car in! This is not legal. The guy has no authority. You're a law enforcement officer? Good god, man.


    And this guy wasn't trying to intimidate by using his truck to block someone's car in? He absolutely was trying to intimidate to get $50 out of someone.

    No authority? He was enforcing the rules set by the owner of that property. Oh no, he blocked his car. Ever hear of calling the police? Or paying the money like you are supposed to do? Who was he trying to intimidate? When the hillbilly arrived, there was no one near the car.
  • Glory Days
    O-Trap;812604 wrote:Sure, that's equally relevant.

    Sure, but you can't use deadly force to stop a guy from booting your car.
  • O-Trap
    Glory Days;813388 wrote:Sure, but you can't use deadly force to stop a guy from booting your car.

    I agree. However, making it known that you have a firearm on your person is hardly using deadly force. No wielding it. No pointing it. No firing it. Just letting him know you have it.

    Once again, I wouldn't do that, as if I was carrying a gun, it would likely just be slung over my back (not likely to ever happen). Realistically, in a situation like this, if he threatens to boot your car, you call the police. From the sound of it, he might indeed have been a towny pulling a fast one on college students, in which case it is not his job to enforce that rule, and he would be just as much a trespasser as anyone he was attempting to dupe.
  • luckydog
    Knowing my son, which graduated from college this year also, would have let the giant man attempt to put the boot on the vehicle and ended it right there....just sayin'.
  • LJ
    Glory Days;813387 wrote:No authority? He was enforcing the rules set by the owner of that property. Oh no, he blocked his car. Ever hear of calling the police? Or paying the money like you are supposed to do? Who was he trying to intimidate? When the hillbilly arrived, there was no one near the car.

    He has to be with the company posted on the sign. PERIOD
  • Glory Days
    LJ;813581 wrote:He has to be with the company posted on the sign. PERIOD

    I know that, and if its unclear or the guy is being an ass like he was, you call the cops.
  • Glory Days
    O-Trap;813394 wrote:I agree. However, making it known that you have a firearm on your person is hardly using deadly force. No wielding it. No pointing it. No firing it. Just letting him know you have it.

    no its not deadly force. but you could cause the hillbilly to believe you may cause him serious physical harm by during a heated argument, showing him you have a gun.
  • dwccrew
    Glory Days;813387 wrote:No authority? He was enforcing the rules set by the owner of that property. Oh no, he blocked his car. Ever hear of calling the police? Or paying the money like you are supposed to do? Who was he trying to intimidate? When the hillbilly arrived, there was no one near the car.

    Again, he has no authority to BOOT the car. He has authority to call a tow truck, that's it. I have never heard of anyone, besides law enforcement officers, having the authority to boot someones vehicle.

    Also, the hillbilly never said he worked for the property owner, so how do we know he had any credentials at all.

    Finally, you ask how he was intimidating.......he blocked this person's vehicle in (which he had no authority to do, he can ask them to leave or they'll be towed) with his truck and threatened to boot their vehicle if they don't pay him. That's extortion. I can understand calling a tow truck if they refuse to move their vehicle, but when they are willing to move it, how can you agree with it being ok to boot someone's vehicle and blocking them in so they can't move it?
  • Trueblue23
    I would have:

    -Asked for ID

    -Called Police

    -Recorded the whole thing on my phone, you never know what kind of claims people are going to make.

    -Wait it out
  • O-Trap
    Glory Days;813815 wrote:no its not deadly force. but you could cause the hillbilly to believe you may cause him serious physical harm by during a heated argument, showing him you have a gun.

    Maybe. If someone did that to me, though, my first thought would be just not to escalate the problem to a physical one. Showing a gun says to me, "I'm ready to protect myself if necessary."
  • LJ
    O-Trap;814707 wrote:Maybe. If someone did that to me, though, my first thought would be just not to escalate the problem to a physical one. Showing a gun says to me, "I'm ready to protect myself if necessary."

    That's exactly what it is. I have done it a few times when I felt like I was in danger. It didn't escalate the situation at all, it actually got me out safely. Nor was I ever arrested or charged with anything.
  • LJ
    dwccrew;814456 wrote:Again, he has no authority to BOOT the car. He has authority to call a tow truck, that's it. I have never heard of anyone, besides law enforcement officers, having the authority to boot someones vehicle.

    That is exactly correct. You can tag and tow.
  • dwccrew
    LJ;814717 wrote:That is exactly correct. You can tag and tow.

    It perplexes me how Glory Days, who I believe is a peace officer, can agree with someone breaking the law in the manner this man supposedly did.
  • Skyhook79
    If you wouldn't have parked in a restricted parking area none of this would have happened. You knew it was restricted and you still parked there.
  • hasbeen
    Skyhook79;814849 wrote:If you wouldn't have parked in a restricted parking area none of this would have happened. You knew it was restricted and you still parked there.

    Doesn't change the fact that this hillbilly is taking advantage of college students.
  • O-Trap
    Skyhook79;814849 wrote:If you wouldn't have parked in a restricted parking area none of this would have happened. You knew it was restricted and you still parked there.

    Naturally, actions have justified consequences. The justified consequence here would have been a fine (if an officer happened by, I suppose) or a tow ... at the very least having to move the vehicle.

    The result, however, was NOT a justified consequence ... some scam artist hustling him for $50 through a threat of unlawfully seizing his property.
  • Thinthickbigred
    Skyhook79;814849 wrote:If you wouldn't have parked in a restricted parking area none of this would have happened. You knew it was restricted and you still parked there.

    You ever make a mistake ? Thats not even the point.. This cracker barrel piece of shit white trash is trying to strong arm this guy with no authority and evidently he got away with it .... Swift street justice needs to be done onto him!! Yes Im still mad ..and nobody post freaking Oprah up unless they want to get punched
  • I Wear Pants
    Skyhook79;814849 wrote:If you wouldn't have parked in a restricted parking area none of this would have happened. You knew it was restricted and you still parked there.
    Logic flaw.
  • coyotes22
    Thinthickbigred;814857 wrote:You ever make a mistake ? Thats not even the point.. This cracker barrel piece of shit white trash is trying to strong arm this guy with no authority and evidently he got away with it .... Swift street justice needs to be done onto him!! Yes Im still mad ..and nobody post freaking Oprah up unless they want to get punched

    But he did not park there by "mistake". But, it does not justify what the "hillbilly" did, either.
  • Glory Days
    dwccrew;814456 wrote:Again, he has no authority to BOOT the car. He has authority to call a tow truck, that's it. I have never heard of anyone, besides law enforcement officers, having the authority to boot someones vehicle.

    Also, the hillbilly never said he worked for the property owner, so how do we know he had any credentials at all.

    Finally, you ask how he was intimidating.......he blocked this person's vehicle in (which he had no authority to do, he can ask them to leave or they'll be towed) with his truck and threatened to boot their vehicle if they don't pay him. That's extortion. I can understand calling a tow truck if they refuse to move their vehicle, but when they are willing to move it, how can you agree with it being ok to boot someone's vehicle and blocking them in so they can't move it?

    ok, you can believe he doesnt have authority to boot the car if you want. private parking companies boot cars all the time.

    i understand the guy never said he worked for the property owner, hence why i have said everytime, call the cops.

    how can he intimidate someone who isnt there? when he pulled in, S&L was not at his vehicle.
  • Glory Days
    Trueblue23;814470 wrote:I would have:

    -Asked for ID

    -Called Police

    -Recorded the whole thing on my phone, you never know what kind of claims people are going to make.

    -Wait it out

    Winner.
  • Glory Days
    O-Trap;814707 wrote:Maybe. If someone did that to me, though, my first thought would be just not to escalate the problem to a physical one. Showing a gun says to me, "I'm ready to protect myself if necessary."

    ready to protect yourself from what though in this non violent situation? had the hillbilly got out of his truck and been thumping a tire iron in his hand saying you better pay or else, go ahead, show your piece all you want.
  • O-Trap
    Glory Days;814910 wrote:ready to protect yourself from what though in this non violent situation?
    Nothing, so long as the situation remained non-violent. That's why I wrote, "... if necessary."
    Glory Days;814910 wrote:had the hillbilly got out of his truck and been thumping a tire iron in his hand saying you better pay or else, go ahead, show your piece all you want.

    That would have been appropriate as well.
  • Glory Days
    straight from the OU website.
    http://www.facilities.ohiou.edu/parking/gi_towing.htm
    Vehicle Towing/Booting

    If a vehicle is found in violation or has outstanding parking violations, it can be towed or immobilized with a boot. This also applies to repeat offenders in a particular area or across campus even if citations are paid. Citations are a method of warning the vehicle owner. If these warnings are not heeded, it may become necessary to tow or boot a vehicle. Illegally parked vehicles are also towed from lots when a lot complaint is received and/or a lot is full with several illegally parked vehicles. All vehicles without a lot permit are towed when a lot complaint is received. Vehicle registrations are NOT checked--it is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to ensure their permit is displayed to ensure they are not towed for not displaying a permit.



    Vehicle Towing/Booting Policy

    Vehicles may be ticketed, towed and or booted at the owner's expense whenever a vehicle is illegally parked and under the following circumstances:
    1. Vehicles with three or more unpaid citations.
    2. Repeat Offenders: Vehicles that have received five or more (paid or unpaid) citations received within a quarter.
    3.Possession of a stolen or lost permit or possession of a permit issued to someone other than the individual using the permit.
    4.Possession of an altered, fake, or expired permit; and possession of a permit not authorized for use by Parking Services.
    5.Illegally parked vehicles that are not in a fire lane, handicap space or restricted space. When a lot complaint is received and/or a lot is full with several illegally parked vehicles, vehicles not displaying a permit are subject to tow. Vehicle registrations are NOT checked--it is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to ensure their permit is displayed to prevent being towed.
    6.Parking or blocking other vehicles, roadways, entrances, loading areas, curbs, dumpsters, restricted or reserved spaces.
    7.Overtime parking in a time restricted space (including meters).
    8.Possession of a permit obtained by falsifying information.
    9.Abandoned vehicle: a vehicle not moved from its space for a period of seven or more days or a vehicle that is visibly damaged or unable to be driven from its location.



    Boot Removal and Vehicle Recovery
    1. An immobilization notice containing instructions on how to have the boot removed will be attached to the vehicle (driver's side window and windshield).
    2. If arrangements have not been made by the registered driver of the vehicle to remove the boot within 48 hours of placing the boot on the vehicle, the vehicle is subject to towing. Please note that an illegally parked vehicle will still receive citations while the boot is in place; removal of the boot as soon as possible is highly recommended. Once a vehicle has been booted and subsequently towed, the registered driver/owner will be responsible for all fees incurred (including citations incurred, boot removal fee, and towing/storage fees).
    3. If a vehicle is towed or immobilized, the registered driver/owner responsible must report to the Parking Services Office (Monday-Friday 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.) or the University Campus Safety Office (Monday-Friday 4:30 p.m. - 8:00 a.m. and Saturday and Sunday) to make arrangements to recover the vehicle.
    4. Customers must pay a $55 boot removal fee and any unpaid citations associated with the vehicle prior to removal.