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  • Glory Days
    LJ;811010 wrote:So someone telling me I have to pay them to take MY property when they are not within the law is not me feeling threatened? I showed I have a gun to protect myself. You realize Ohio has open carry right? It has to leave the hoslter for it to be brandishing. This isn't Texas where you get arrested for your shirt coming above the gun or printing. Can't do that. You can't hold someone's property hostage. PLUS, he had not booted the car yet. Like I said, I don't know how things work where you are, but Columbus would not let that fly. You can tag it and tow it, that's it. Can't boot it.
    open carry or not, its the way you did it. had the gun been out prior to his arrival or maybe as you were just getting in the car it printed a little, thats different. you know darn well you did it with intent to show him you had a gun and it comes down to how the hillbilly perceives your actions. and no, it doesnt have to leave the holster. thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard come from your post, you are better than that i know it. you're telling me two people start arguing and one lifts his shirt up to show he has a gun in a holster, that isnt threatening in any manner? just because you did it nonchalantly doesnt make it any less threatening to the other person.

    if you were at home and you heard a commotion out in the driveway, you go outside and a guy is backing out of your driveway with your car. are you going to start shooting him?

    also, i wonder what the state defines as "preparing". it could be pretty lenient and maybe simple contacting the tow company and setting them in motion is considered preparation.
    Then why are you acting like he has a right to boot the car?
    because there is the smart way to problem solve.
  • Glory Days
    SportsAndLady;811014 wrote:If LJ has the proper permit (which I'm sure he does), showing your gun in your holster is never a crime. Pulling it out? Yeah. But just tucking your shirt back isn't a crime lol

    LJ could intimidate him all he wants, if you don't pull it out, there's nothing illegal there.



    But he is presenting physical harm to my vehicle, because i'm unable to move it without harming it. That's illegal, isn't it? You can't just go around parking behind people's cars and asking for money to move. I know I was in a lot I wasn't permitted to be in, but this guy had no right to be in there either. He didn't have a permit to be there, or else he would have showed it to me when I asked him. If he would have said "I work for Bobcat Rentals, I was sent here to boot your car" I would have said okay I ****ed up. But he was just some random ****head with a big pickup truck.
    presenting serious physical harm to your vehicle doesnt warrant self defense.
  • Rotinaj
    I cant get over how big of a pos douchenozzle this guy is. Im not sure what id of done in this situation. Def wouldnt of given him cash though.
  • LJ
    Glory Days;811670 wrote:open carry or not, its the way you did it. had the gun been out prior to his arrival or maybe as you were just getting in the car it printed a little, thats different. you know darn well you did it with intent to show him you had a gun and it comes down to how the hillbilly perceives your actions. and no, it doesnt have to leave the holster. thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard come from your post, you are better than that i know it. you're telling me two people start arguing and one lifts his shirt up to show he has a gun in a holster, that isnt threatening in any manner? just because you did it nonchalantly doesnt make it any less threatening to the other person.
    Remind me to stay out of unfriendly NE Ohio. I felt threatened. He wouldn't let me leave. This would not be a problem in Central Ohio. Not in the least.
    if you were at home and you heard a commotion out in the driveway, you go outside and a guy is backing out of your driveway with your car. are you going to start shooting him?
    :rolleyes:
    also, i wonder what the state defines as "preparing". it could be pretty lenient and maybe simple contacting the tow company and setting them in motion is considered preparation.
    I obviously have 100x more experience in dealing with contracted parking enforcement.
  • dwccrew
    Glory Days;810927 wrote:haha so in your case, you actually deserved the boot on your car, yet decided to destroy someone else's property?

    I deserved no boot because this guy had no authority to hold my car hostage, I was told this by an attorney. Signs were not posted distinguishing between visitor parking and resident parking. They had my license plate number, nothing ever came of it because they were in the wrong and had no grounds for any kind of legal action.

    The only thing this guy could have legally done was have my car towed. He could not just put a boot on my car and demand money after I told him I would move it.

    So I win. Got the boot off my car at no charge and they were out a $300 boot.
  • sportchampps
    how can you prove he didnt have a itch that when he itched it just so happened it made his gun visible. There is no way for keeping ur gun holstered they could prove you were doing it to threaten someone unless their were witnesses who can hear you make a threat about the gun as you showed it
  • LJ
    sportchampps;811986 wrote:how can you prove he didnt have a itch that when he itched it just so happened it made his gun visible. There is no way for keeping ur gun holstered they could prove you were doing it to threaten someone unless their were witnesses who can hear you make a threat about the gun as you showed it

    EGGZACTLY!!

    There are a few counties in NEO that would try to prosecute, but the sane counties wouldn't.
  • Tobias Fünke
    HOLY HELL reading this thread got me so angry, and I wasn't even there. I don't care if he is 6'4 and ~300; he is also an unmotivated hick so would be no match for two people. He probably does have a gun in his truck though. I would feel confident in my 6'2 235lb frame in beating this dude down simply because I'd be so enraged, plus I was an all-star HWT wrestler back in the day. I would have paid the tow truck the $150 before I paid him, simply out of spite. Sure you can say "enjoy your Busch Lite, you fucking inbred," but I think you'd get the point across much better if you willingly gave another person $100 more. If he tried to put that boot on my car, he'd have a wrecked face.

    Knowing the law though, I'd say something along the lines of:

    "Well that's horseshit, but go ahead and call the tow company. I'd only have to pay them half of that $150, per the Ohio Revised Code. Do you know what that is you ignorant fuck? I'll give you the choice, you can call the tow company and I'll give them the $75 after the police say I must, or you can drive out of here and go on with your miserable existence." Then I'd have pulled out my gun and shot him and his six-year old daughter who was in the passenger seat right in the face. Didn't see that part coming did you?

    ccrunner609;810607 wrote:haha so much for that college degree when it comes to smarts. Obviously some hillbilly is smarter then you.

    Irony is a beautiful thing.
    ccrunner609;810619 wrote:i dont teach english so hence I dont give a shit
  • Glory Days
    LJ;811926 wrote:Remind me to stay out of unfriendly NE Ohio. I felt threatened. He wouldn't let me leave. This would not be a problem in Central Ohio. Not in the least.

    :rolleyes:

    I obviously have 100x more experience in dealing with contracted parking enforcement.

    just saying you felt threatend means nothing. how did he not let you leave? walking away wont work? calling the cops wasnt an option in this non violent situation? you have yet to articulate anything. the dude was there to put a boot on your car. he made no advances towards you or anyone you are with and was not aggressive. what did this guy do that made you think he would cause serious physical harm to you or those with you?
  • Glory Days
    sportchampps;811986 wrote:how can you prove he didnt have a itch that when he itched it just so happened it made his gun visible. There is no way for keeping ur gun holstered they could prove you were doing it to threaten someone unless their were witnesses who can hear you make a threat about the gun as you showed it

    lets see, you are obviously upset this guy is tring to boot your car. he can see this as you argue with him. during the heated exchange while telling this guy you are leaving and with your car, you suddenly tuck your untucked shirt into your pants and reveal a gun. you can play dumb all you want, but your intent was to intimidate this guy.
  • Glory Days
    been trying to look up things specifically on booting and i havent been finding anything. being the expert on towing LJ, does booting fall under that law?
  • O-Trap
    Glory Days;812436 wrote:lets see, you are obviously upset this guy is tring to boot your car. he can see this as you argue with him. during the heated exchange while telling this guy you are leaving and with your car, you suddenly tuck your untucked shirt into your pants and reveal a gun. you can play dumb all you want, but your intent was to intimidate this guy.
    Yes, but everything above would be circumstantial, I would think.
  • Bigred1995
    O-Trap;812495 wrote:Yes, but everything above would be circumstantial, I would think.
    Police officers don't worry about what is circumstantial or not. They can make an arrest for anything and let the lawyers settle what is arrest worthy or not!
  • O-Trap
    Bigred1995;812500 wrote:Police officers don't worry about what is circumstantial or not. They can make an arrest for anything and let the lawyers settle what is arrest worthy or not!
    Sure, but it would really be nothing but a "he-said/he-said" once the cops got there, I would think. If there were other people there, maybe that would be a problem. Making it known that you have a gun, regardless of actual intent, could be done for a variety of reasons.

    If I were LJ, I'd quit with the "conceal" part and just open carry everywhere. :D
  • Bigred1995
    LJ;812002 wrote:EGGZACTLY!!

    There are a few counties in NEO that would try to prosecute, but the sane counties wouldn't.
    I thought I was the only dork that did that!
    :)
  • dwccrew
    Glory Days;812435 wrote:just saying you felt threatend means nothing. how did he not let you leave? walking away wont work? calling the cops wasnt an option in this non violent situation? you have yet to articulate anything. the dude was there to put a boot on your car. he made no advances towards you or anyone you are with and was not aggressive. what did this guy do that made you think he would cause serious physical harm to you or those with you?

    Seriously? How did he not let you leave? He blocked his car in! This is not legal. The guy has no authority. You're a law enforcement officer? Good god, man.
    Glory Days;812436 wrote:lets see, you are obviously upset this guy is tring to boot your car. he can see this as you argue with him. during the heated exchange while telling this guy you are leaving and with your car, you suddenly tuck your untucked shirt into your pants and reveal a gun. you can play dumb all you want, but your intent was to intimidate this guy.
    And this guy wasn't trying to intimidate by using his truck to block someone's car in? He absolutely was trying to intimidate to get $50 out of someone.
  • O-Trap
    I suppose this question needs asked: Does 'defending oneself' include defending his property?
  • coyotes22
    O-Trap;812561 wrote:I suppose this question needs asked: Does 'defending oneself' include defending his property?

    Yes. Esp if it is a cop, shooting a bad person.
  • SportsAndLady
    O-Trap;812561 wrote:I suppose this question needs asked: Does 'defending oneself' include defending his property?

    Or more in my case, does threatening someone include threatenin their property?
  • O-Trap
    SportsAndLady;812589 wrote:Or more in my case, does threatening someone include threatenin their property?

    Sure, that's equally relevant.
  • Thinthickbigred
    Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely
  • coyotes22
    Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely

    Two wrongs, dont make a right!!
  • Thinthickbigred
    coyotes22;812658 wrote:Two wrongs, dont make a right!!

    true and neither do threee and four or five wrongs but anger does funny things to people and if that SOB was going to try and strong arm me and I had some backup the guy would be sorry he messed with me .. I wouldnt take his vehicle and run it inot a ditch but I woulndt care if a friend of mine did it ..atleast he wouldnt be strong arming people for awhile ..steet justice
  • O-Trap
    Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely
    ITG!
  • stroups
    Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely

    U still mad