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  • QuakerOats
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Education-fake-news-debate/2017/02/25/id/775535/


    How about fake education
  • Spock
    yes

    there is a lot of fake education out there
  • O-Trap
    gut;1838745 wrote:That's right. And it would get attacked by both the right and the left who saw it as a threat to their profits (and agenda they push).

    Although, to be fair, the straight news is generally considered pretty decent. There is an agenda on what they choose to cover, and they make mistakes trying to keep-up with social media covering breaking news, but it's generally pretty good.

    The problem is the opinion shows dominate prime time, and that seems to be the only source of news for people (even worse are those who get their news from Bill Maher, The Daily Show, etc...). But the straight news also isn't very in depth, another reflection of the 30-second attention span of viewers.
    This is a great point, as well. The "news news" isn't really that bad on any channel ... for the most part.
  • Azubuike24
    ...while he's way out there, I'll say this about Alex Jones...he makes a good point about the "CNN ban" in the White House briefing. There are only so many seats in the room, why do the typical players and MSM automatically feel they get invited? Say there are 100 seats...what about YouTubers with more viewers on a daily basis than CNN? Maybe Trump is trying to re-define what "media" is?
  • Heretic
    Azubuike24;1838887 wrote:...while he's way out there, I'll say this about Alex Jones...he makes a good point about the "CNN ban" in the White House briefing. There are only so many seats in the room, why do the typical players and MSM automatically feel they get invited? Say there are 100 seats...what about YouTubers with more viewers on a daily basis than CNN? Maybe Trump is trying to re-define what "media" is?
    Lol, just no.

    What he's doing is plain and simple. He's banning media groups that don't cover him and his words in the manner he wants them to be covered in an attempt to get the information to flow how he wants it to flow. Or, in short: If you say what he doesn't want you to say, he'll replace you with someone who will.

    Regardless of if you feel this is justified or an either/or of him acting like a toddler or following the BLUEPRINTS OF FASCISM (my money on the former), it's blatantly obvious that's the reality for anyone remotely connected to reality.
  • SportsAndLady
    Heretic;1838888 wrote:Lol, just no.

    What he's doing is plain and simple. He's banning media groups that don't cover him and his words in the manner he wants them to be covered in an attempt to get the information to flow how he wants it to flow. Or, in short: If you say what he doesn't want you to say, he'll replace you with someone who will.

    Regardless of if you feel this is justified or an either/or of him acting like a toddler or following the BLUEPRINTS OF FASCISM (my money on the former), it's blatantly obvious that's the reality for anyone remotely connected to reality.
    This.
  • BoatShoes
    Azubuike24;1838887 wrote:...while he's way out there, I'll say this about Alex Jones...he makes a good point about the "CNN ban" in the White House briefing. There are only so many seats in the room, why do the typical players and MSM automatically feel they get invited? Say there are 100 seats...what about YouTubers with more viewers on a daily basis than CNN? Maybe Trump is trying to re-define what "media" is?
    I admire your optimism!
  • BoatShoes
    Spock;1838817 wrote:yes

    there is a lot of fake education out there
    Irony.
  • O-Trap
    Azubuike24;1838887 wrote:...while he's way out there, I'll say this about Alex Jones...he makes a good point about the "CNN ban" in the White House briefing. There are only so many seats in the room, why do the typical players and MSM automatically feel they get invited? Say there are 100 seats...what about YouTubers with more viewers on a daily basis than CNN? Maybe Trump is trying to re-define what "media" is?
    Alex must not be on Twitter, where Trump has been far more explicit about his dislike of particular media outlets.

    Alex is actively refraining from placing a few pieces of the puzzle on the table, and then he's pontificating about what the missing pieces could be. The problem is, we've all seen them.
  • Heretic
    BoatShoes;1838894 wrote:Irony.
    Don't be hard on him! For possibly the first time ever, he used the word "of" correctly in a sentence!
  • gut
    Heretic;1838888 wrote: Regardless of if you feel this is justified or an either/or of him acting like a toddler or following the BLUEPRINTS OF FASCISM (my money on the former), it's blatantly obvious that's the reality for anyone remotely connected to reality.
    I do disagree with it. Obama did the exact same thing more than once...and Fox complained because Fox was kept out, but no one else said squat.

    People only call this out in a partisan manner, which is why it never stops so long as they remain popular enough with their base to get re-elected. People throwing around words like fascism very rarely called this behavior out in the Obama administration.
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-12/neil-cavuto-kicks-cnn-ass-ignoring-obama%E2%80%99s-attacks-fox-news-over-past-8-years


    Great clip by Neil Cavuto ........it was fine when obama constantly bashed Fox News because they did not cover him the way he wanted to be covered in an attempt to get the information to flow the way he wanted it to flow. But that was quite ok since he was a liberal.
  • Spock
    So now reports are leaking out that there is actually no evidence on Russia and the election. But MSNBC is still doubling down on the agenda.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Spock;1838963 wrote:So now reports are leaking out that there is actually no evidence on Russia and the election. But MSNBC is still doubling down on the agenda.
    The election itself, on the Election Day, no.
    But, there is little doubt Russia did play a role in hacking the DNC and the release of all of those emails from Wikileaks.
    It is quite annoying how the issues are misconstrued.
  • Heretic
    fish82;1838145 wrote:It's pretty funny that the left and the MSM invented the "fake news" meme as a gotcha, and it ended up blowing up in their face for the most part.
    To me, the most bizarre part of all this is that the right's response to it all was essentially, "I know you are, but what am I?"...and it worked! I mean, did these people have no normal interactions growing up? Because anyone with a reasonably average childhood learned how to confront that sort of reasoning fairly efficiently (rock in the snowball, picking them last at recess, etc.).
  • CenterBHSFan
    Heretic;1839465 wrote:(rock in the snowball, picking them last at recess, etc.).
    I should NOT have laughed at this, but I did!
  • O-Trap
    Heretic;1839465 wrote:(rock in the snowball, picking them last at recess, etc.).
    Reps.
  • QuakerOats
    IMMIGRANT OF THE WEEK: HENRY BELLO (OBOTETUKUDO)


    Last Friday, Nigerian immigrant Henry Williams Obotetukudo, aka Henry Bello, opened fire with an AM-15 rifle at the Bronx-Lebanon Hospital, killing one doctor and injuring a half-dozen others. I would prefer to leap right in and offer my ideas for stopping these immigrant shooting rampages, but first I'll have to tell you the facts the media won't.

    The New York Times, still unaware there's an internet, is trying to pass off the Nigerian as a Californian, the non-doctor as a doctor, and Mr. Obotetukudo as "Dr. Bello."

    In the Times' major biographical profile of Bello the next day, he was described as a "sharp dresser from California." The only other reference to the shooter's provenance came several paragraphs later: "Dr. Bello lived in California off and on from 1991 until 2006."

    ABC News had reported on the day of the shooting that Bello was a "Nigerian national" -- so the cat was already out of the bag, New York Times. Local New York station PIX11 also reported that he was a Nigerian. Even newspapers in Ohio knew that Bello was a Nigerian.

    But as we go to print, the Times still has not identified Bello as a Nigerian immigrant. It issued a "correction," but only to clarify the exact street of a homeless shelter where Bello had lived. No correction to the "California" bit.

    Sadly, the Times didn't allow any comments to the online version of its story, but CBS did. There were four comments, two about the incident ("rot in hell") and two about CBS's report:

    "Where was Bello born?"

    and:

    "Where is he from? Where did he receive his medical degree? Worthless reporting."

    You're not fooling anyone, media.

    Having misled readers about Bello's nationality, the Times professed utter bafflement about the shooter's motive, saying it was "marked with as many questions as answers."
    If the Times simply reported facts, instead of strategically constructing news stories to protect favored groups, it might have noticed that there have been a LOT of mass shootings by certain types of immigrants.

    There are mental illness shootings, gangland shootings, still-angry-about-the-divorce shootings and so on. Some immigrant murderers are mentally ill or criminals -- thanks to our excellent and extremely rigorous vetting system! But there are enough like Mr. Obotetukudo to qualify as their own category: the Disappointed Immigrant mass shootings.

    The usual elements are: 1) immigrants from wildly different cultures, who have 2) unrealistic expectations about what their lives should be like in the U.S., combined with 3) an inability to achieve success in the U.S., and 4) a failure to grasp our customs -- often, even our language, typically marked by 5) a particular rage at women.

    The same way girls from the Midwest come to New York City expecting to live like Carrie Bradshaw in "Sex and the City" (she was paying $700 a month for a $2,700 per month apartment, plus $40,000 on shoes), some immigrants seem to expect their lives in the U.S. to be like something out of "Dynasty."

    Bello, for example, declared bankruptcy in 2000 -- from one of the priciest towns in the world, Santa Barbara, California. And he just kept failing. He was fired from the Bronx hospital. He lost his license as a "pharmacy technician." (He was not a "doctor," despite the media's insistent reference to him as one.)

    The Nigerian couldn't even pull off being a fake doctor, sounding more like a character out of a comedy sketch. Co-workers described him as "very aggressive, talking loudly, threatening people." Once he was arrested for fare-jumping -- just like your trusted family physician. Recently, he'd been living in a homeless shelter.

    His Third World approach to meeting women resulted in his being arrested in 2004 for lifting a 23-year-old woman off the ground in Greenwich Village, while trying to penetrate her through her underwear and saying "You're coming with me." Although initially charged with felony assault, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor -- otherwise he might have been deported and America's beautiful mosaic would be diminished.

    Apart from the turnstile jumping, all of Bello's arrests involve similarly rom-com, meet-cute scenarios. In 2003, he was arrested for kicking in an ex-girlfriend's door at 5:10 in the morning. In 2009, he was charged, in separate incidents, with harassing women by trying to look up their skirts.

    All this insanely inappropriate behavior would have continued ad infinitum, with American women being sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism, but, finally, the Unstoppable Force of Diversity met the Feminist Immovable Object: He was fired from the hospital for sexual harassment.

    In his revenge shooting, he killed one doctor: a woman.

    Bello blamed his firing on "racism and discrimination," so at least he was capable of assimilating to the American custom of immigrants being constantly aggrieved.

    Close observers will notice the same basic pattern over and over again. Immigrants from backward cultures develop extravagant expectations about their lives in America, fail to master the most rudimentary civic habits, and then erupt in shooting rampages when their lives aren't turning out as planned.

    One will find similar elements in the many, many immigrant mass murders -- Jiverly Wong (American Civic Association, Binghamton, New York); Nigerian immigrant Peter Odighizuwa, (Appalachian School of Law); Palestinian immigrant Ali Hassan Abu Kamal (Empire State Building), Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic (Trolley Square Mall, Salt Lake City); Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang (hunters in Wisconsin); Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia (Windy City Core Supply); Korean immigrant Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Poly Tech and on and on.

    Liberals have a mystical idea that we can pluck people from the most discordant cultures, put them in middle-class houses in the suburbs and then, magically, primitive tribesmen will be imbued with the core beliefs of our republic and civilization, developed over centuries.

    Instead, we have Aztecs getting loaded up on Tecate and hopping behind the wheels of cars; Nigerians demanding to be called "doctor" while picking up women on the street and trying to drag them home; and Hmong responding to the concept of private property by wiping out a pack of Wisconsin hunters.

    The New York Times might even help their Muslim friends by reporting the truth! Perhaps some Muslim mass murders -- Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon and the Orlando nightclub, for example –- aren't problems of Islam, at all. Maybe the problem is assimilation.

    It would be a major step forward if the media would just stop lying to us. Until then, Times reporters can still be issued badges, but they shouldn't be press badges.
  • GOONx19
    QuakerOats;1861591 wrote:IMMIGRANT OF THE WEEK: HENRY BELLO (OBOTETUKUDO)


    Last Friday, Nigerian immigrant Henry Williams Obotetukudo, aka Henry Bello, opened fire with an AM-15 rifle at the Bronx-Lebanon Hospital, killing one doctor and injuring a half-dozen others. I would prefer to leap right in and offer my ideas for stopping these immigrant shooting rampages, but first I'll have to tell you the facts the media won't.

    The New York Times, still unaware there's an internet, is trying to pass off the Nigerian as a Californian, the non-doctor as a doctor, and Mr. Obotetukudo as "Dr. Bello."

    In the Times' major biographical profile of Bello the next day, he was described as a "sharp dresser from California." The only other reference to the shooter's provenance came several paragraphs later: "Dr. Bello lived in California off and on from 1991 until 2006."

    ABC News had reported on the day of the shooting that Bello was a "Nigerian national" -- so the cat was already out of the bag, New York Times. Local New York station PIX11 also reported that he was a Nigerian. Even newspapers in Ohio knew that Bello was a Nigerian.

    But as we go to print, the Times still has not identified Bello as a Nigerian immigrant. It issued a "correction," but only to clarify the exact street of a homeless shelter where Bello had lived. No correction to the "California" bit.

    Sadly, the Times didn't allow any comments to the online version of its story, but CBS did. There were four comments, two about the incident ("rot in hell") and two about CBS's report:

    "Where was Bello born?"

    and:

    "Where is he from? Where did he receive his medical degree? Worthless reporting."

    You're not fooling anyone, media.

    Having misled readers about Bello's nationality, the Times professed utter bafflement about the shooter's motive, saying it was "marked with as many questions as answers."
    If the Times simply reported facts, instead of strategically constructing news stories to protect favored groups, it might have noticed that there have been a LOT of mass shootings by certain types of immigrants.

    There are mental illness shootings, gangland shootings, still-angry-about-the-divorce shootings and so on. Some immigrant murderers are mentally ill or criminals -- thanks to our excellent and extremely rigorous vetting system! But there are enough like Mr. Obotetukudo to qualify as their own category: the Disappointed Immigrant mass shootings.

    The usual elements are: 1) immigrants from wildly different cultures, who have 2) unrealistic expectations about what their lives should be like in the U.S., combined with 3) an inability to achieve success in the U.S., and 4) a failure to grasp our customs -- often, even our language, typically marked by 5) a particular rage at women.

    The same way girls from the Midwest come to New York City expecting to live like Carrie Bradshaw in "Sex and the City" (she was paying $700 a month for a $2,700 per month apartment, plus $40,000 on shoes), some immigrants seem to expect their lives in the U.S. to be like something out of "Dynasty."

    Bello, for example, declared bankruptcy in 2000 -- from one of the priciest towns in the world, Santa Barbara, California. And he just kept failing. He was fired from the Bronx hospital. He lost his license as a "pharmacy technician." (He was not a "doctor," despite the media's insistent reference to him as one.)

    The Nigerian couldn't even pull off being a fake doctor, sounding more like a character out of a comedy sketch. Co-workers described him as "very aggressive, talking loudly, threatening people." Once he was arrested for fare-jumping -- just like your trusted family physician. Recently, he'd been living in a homeless shelter.

    His Third World approach to meeting women resulted in his being arrested in 2004 for lifting a 23-year-old woman off the ground in Greenwich Village, while trying to penetrate her through her underwear and saying "You're coming with me." Although initially charged with felony assault, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor -- otherwise he might have been deported and America's beautiful mosaic would be diminished.

    Apart from the turnstile jumping, all of Bello's arrests involve similarly rom-com, meet-cute scenarios. In 2003, he was arrested for kicking in an ex-girlfriend's door at 5:10 in the morning. In 2009, he was charged, in separate incidents, with harassing women by trying to look up their skirts.

    All this insanely inappropriate behavior would have continued ad infinitum, with American women being sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism, but, finally, the Unstoppable Force of Diversity met the Feminist Immovable Object: He was fired from the hospital for sexual harassment.

    In his revenge shooting, he killed one doctor: a woman.

    Bello blamed his firing on "racism and discrimination," so at least he was capable of assimilating to the American custom of immigrants being constantly aggrieved.

    Close observers will notice the same basic pattern over and over again. Immigrants from backward cultures develop extravagant expectations about their lives in America, fail to master the most rudimentary civic habits, and then erupt in shooting rampages when their lives aren't turning out as planned.

    One will find similar elements in the many, many immigrant mass murders -- Jiverly Wong (American Civic Association, Binghamton, New York); Nigerian immigrant Peter Odighizuwa, (Appalachian School of Law); Palestinian immigrant Ali Hassan Abu Kamal (Empire State Building), Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic (Trolley Square Mall, Salt Lake City); Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang (hunters in Wisconsin); Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia (Windy City Core Supply); Korean immigrant Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Poly Tech and on and on.

    Liberals have a mystical idea that we can pluck people from the most discordant cultures, put them in middle-class houses in the suburbs and then, magically, primitive tribesmen will be imbued with the core beliefs of our republic and civilization, developed over centuries.

    Instead, we have Aztecs getting loaded up on Tecate and hopping behind the wheels of cars; Nigerians demanding to be called "doctor" while picking up women on the street and trying to drag them home; and Hmong responding to the concept of private property by wiping out a pack of Wisconsin hunters.

    The New York Times might even help their Muslim friends by reporting the truth! Perhaps some Muslim mass murders -- Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon and the Orlando nightclub, for example –- aren't problems of Islam, at all. Maybe the problem is assimilation.

    It would be a major step forward if the media would just stop lying to us. Until then, Times reporters can still be issued badges, but they shouldn't be press badges.
    TL;DR. Did they catch the nutjob Californian?
  • gut
    LMFAO....now Rachel Maddow is floating the theory that people are shopping meticulously forged documents for the purpose of discrediting the press.

    Gotta admit, I just figured they'd kind of slither away from the collusion story and never saw it going this direction. The only problem with the above logic is it can only happen if you don't properly source your stories.....sooooooo you can't be "discredited" but rather exposed as being of a state lacking credibility.
  • like_that
    gut;1861709 wrote:LMFAO....now Rachel Maddow is floating the theory that people are shopping meticulously forged documents for the purpose of discrediting the press.

    Gotta admit, I just figured they'd kind of slither away from the collusion story and never saw it going this direction. The only problem with the above logic is it can only happen if you don't properly source your stories.....sooooooo you can't be "discredited" but rather exposed as being of a state lacking credibility.
    Geez, it's such a mystery why the trust in media the last 16 years has taken such a nose dive....
  • gut
    like_that;1861711 wrote:Geez, it's such a mystery why the trust in media the last 16 years has taken such a nose dive....
    And another story in Politico about Trump cracking down on leaks, and so people are afraid of talking to the press and being obstructed from doing their job.

    So looks like the liberal media has gotten together to drive the narrative that Trump is to blame for their shitty reporting. But, nahhh, these two stories on the same day about a week after CNN stepped on its dick is just a coincidence....
  • majorspark
    This whole current branding of "Fake News" was a product of left leaning media to make excuses for Hillary losing the election and discredit other news sources. Its blown up in their face.
  • CenterBHSFan
    I saw this vid and thought it was a referral to the CNN/coercion story. It's not. It actually happened before all that hot mess.

    [video=youtube;xHAKkWKIIMA][/video]

    Good advice ignored.
  • Belly35
    Fake News is a buy product of Liberals believing their own lies, trying to justify their unreal world in a world of reality. Failed agenda, skewed ideology, years of bias education, out of touch bring this scenario to national attention and exposes the wrong in the Demo Liberal Left media mentality.