Impressed by Trump administration
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QuakerOatsBeneficial results already pouring in, and he is over 2 months from inauguration:
Canada and Mexico open to renegotiating NAFTA.
Refreshing to see what can happen when business people take over.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-pm-trudeau-says-ready-renegotiate-nafta-trump-165713892.html
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QuakerOatsDow up 600 points in 2 days.
Unshackle American business / create wealth / and the rising tide will lift all boats. -
thavoice
I am one of the few in here that was around when Perot ran for president against Clinton. It was my very first time voting I recall. Even at that point I realized I wanted a non politician to give it a go and he got my vote.QuakerOats;1823577 wrote:Dow up 600 points in 2 days.
Unshackle American business / create wealth / and the rising tide will lift all boats.
Trump may not be the perfect one that everyone was looking for, but I believe so many people want a non career politician and with him being a business owner he hopefully can feel the pain that business owners have to go thorugh -
Spock
So we are going to see a trend of anti Washington candidates for many elections to come if trump has a good 4 years. Who will the dems out up? A govenor? -
QuakerOatsThe way they are trending it would have to be some type of fascist; more and more hard left with each passing dem prez.
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bases_loaded
When you don't sell yourself to get elected you can hire people rather than appoint them.
Greatagain.gov is where you can go to sign up for over 2,000 appointed positions that the office has.
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BoatShoes
Listened to Bloomberg on the ride home from work. Markets anticipating huge fiscal stimulus in the form of Bigly Gubmint Spending on infrastructure to tune of at least double Hillary's $270 billion plan + tax cuts.QuakerOats;1823577 wrote:Dow up 600 points in 2 days.
Unshackle American business / create wealth / and the rising tide will lift all boats.
Could never have dreamed of such a package with Hillary and a GOP congress. -
majorspark
Boat is falling in love with the Donald. -
BoatShoes
#TrumpTrainNoBreaksmajorspark;1823695 wrote:Boat is falling in love with the Donald. -
ptown_trojans_1
That makes sense and one of the things I actually do not mind. I could see a deal, he is a deal maker after all, where in exchange for lifting the 2011 DOD Budget Control Act "sequestration" caps we still live under, he will also invest heavily in infrastructure. This will appease the Rs who want more defense spending, and the Ds who want more investment in infrastructure.BoatShoes;1823684 wrote:Listened to Bloomberg on the ride home from work. Markets anticipating huge fiscal stimulus in the form of Bigly Gubmint Spending on infrastructure to tune of at least double Hillary's $270 billion plan + tax cuts.
Could never have dreamed of such a package with Hillary and a GOP congress.
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QuakerOatsBoatShoes;1823684 wrote:Listened to Bloomberg on the ride home from work. Markets anticipating huge fiscal stimulus in the form of Bigly Gubmint Spending on infrastructure to tune of at least double Hillary's $270 billion plan + tax cuts.
Could never have dreamed of such a package with Hillary and a GOP congress.
Repatriation of $2 trillion in overseas profits coming back with a meager 10% repat tax renders $200 billion that could be directed to some infrastructure spending or balancing the budget. Private sector left with $1.8 trillion to re-invest or pay dividends or, or, ......... Win/win for everyone.
Anti-establishment, private sector ideas schooling entrenched government bureaucracy.
Change we can believe in ... -
O-Trap
Maybe Kanye West wasn't kidding. He's certainly not an "insider." -
ernest_t_bass
What's a govenor?Spock;1823617 wrote:So we are going to see a trend of anti Washington candidates for many elections to come if trump has a good 4 years. Who will the dems out up? A govenor? -
Wolves of BabylonTrump already walking back repeal and replace and talking about amending Obamacare.
He is a big fan of keeping pre-existing conditions and allowing children to stay on parents insurance.
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ptown_trojans_1
I'll post this here as it has more to do with potential and my expectations.
I've thought a little more about this and as I have said before I will give Trump the benefit of the doubt, so far.
He is our President now. I accept that.
Still, if other want to say he is not their President, that is their right, just like it was Belly's.
That said, Hilliary won the popular vote by a wider margin than Gore did in 2000. Trump has a negative approval rating and over 50% of the people voting thought he was not qualified for the job. The onus is on him now. I do have a few concerns/ questions.
He says he is a dealmaker, well, then prove it. Deals involve both sides, so how will he reach across the aisle? Will he be willing to work with Congress much more than Obama did? (That was Obama's mistake to have battles with Congress and lecture them.).
What will his inner circle be like? Will it be a team of the best, or will it be partisan people that will go after their agenda. For example, will he bring back the necons? If so, we have a problem. If he brings in fresh voices that have a reasonable point of view, fine.
Will he use Executive Orders more than Obama? The right crushed Obama for it, yet they cannot allow Trump to do the same. We must make sure he keeps them in check.
What will his National Security Strategy and Nuclear Posture Review be like? Who will be on it and will it radically differ from the last 2, Obama and Bush? That will tell us a macro view of his foreign policy?
What will he do with NATO, Syria. Iraq, and oh the war still going in Afghanistan?
Will he walk back some of the campaign work, like the wall, the ban, and deportations? If he starts to go through with those, expect a war with the Ds. He may waste valuable political capital on just one of those items.
Will he put religious right figures in power spots that may overturn Roe v Wade and gay marriage? If he does, expect Ds and liberals, and even moderates, to revolt.
What will he do to bring us all together? Obama failed, honestly, on uniting us. Can Trump do it, and if so how? The riots are dumb and should not happen. On the flip side, hate crimes and race issues are increasing. How will he address those and calm a nation on edge?
Again, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt for now as I wait to see how he comes in, who he surrounds himself with, and what policies he enacts? He has said some dumb things on the trail. Now, it is time to govern, and let's hope he realizes, it is a little hard and softens the tone. Maybe he can bring in a new type of governing, but let's see.
Finally, after 1/20/2017, people on here and in the US cannot blame anything on Obama. It will be all on Trump. Just as Obama could not blame Bush, Trump cannot blame Obama.
The Rs have the White House, both Houses of Congress, and maybe the Court. Whatever happens is on them. Own it. You wanted it, you got it. Let's see how it plays out. -
sleeper
Thank God.Wolves of Babylon;1823904 wrote:Trump already walking back repeal and replace and talking about amending Obamacare.
He is a big fan of keeping pre-existing conditions and allowing children to stay on parents insurance.
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CenterBHSFan
ptown_trojans_1;1823936 wrote:I'll post this here as it has more to do with potential and my expectations.
I've thought a little more about this and as I have said before I will give Trump the benefit of the doubt, so far.
He is our President now. I accept that.
Still, if other want to say he is not their President, that is their right, just like it was Belly's.
That said, Hilliary won the popular vote by a wider margin than Gore did in 2000. Trump has a negative approval rating and over 50% of the people voting thought he was not qualified for the job. The onus is on him now. I do have a few concerns/ questions.He says he is a dealmaker, well, then prove it. Deals involve both sides, so how will he reach across the aisle? Will he be willing to work with Congress much more than Obama did? (That was Obama's mistake to have battles with Congress and lecture them.).
Well, he was a democrat in the past, so maybe he can recognize and still believes, some of those points of view. I hope that he will be willing, but who knows?
What will his inner circle be like? Will it be a team of the best, or will it be partisan people that will go after their agenda. For example, will he bring back the necons? If so, we have a problem. If he brings in fresh voices that have a reasonable point of view, fine.
I think he'll bring in what could reasonably be called "the best". I don't think he is a partisan hack, so that won't be catered to. Maybe one neocon in a place where it wont make a difference. Of course, this is guessing.
Will he use Executive Orders more than Obama? The right crushed Obama for it, yet they cannot allow Trump to do the same. We must make sure he keeps them in check.
He'll use them, no doubt. How much is beyond anybody's best guess atm. What is important, IMO, is where he uses them and why.
What will his National Security Strategy and Nuclear Posture Review be like? Who will be on it and will it radically differ from the last 2, Obama and Bush? That will tell us a macro view of his foreign policy?
This is my question, too. With the changing landscape over the past 40-50 years, I often question the wisdom of stagnation. Some areas, keep it the same, and some areas I think could definitely use a refresher.
What will he do with NATO, Syria. Iraq, and oh the war still going in Afghanistan?
I don't know. But I don't want to see us going into yet another war or another area with the intent of pussyfooting around. If we absolutely MUST go into an area, I hope that the military can do it's job without polarizing political ideologies wedged into the middle of it. If we MUST go into an area, we must accept collateral damage is going to happen. But again, I don't think anybody should be eager to do this.
Will he walk back some of the campaign work, like the wall, the ban, and deportations? If he starts to go through with those, expect a war with the Ds. He may waste valuable political capital on just one of those items.
I do agree with the idea of making the vetting process for people from known terror harvesting countries (Syria, Afg. as examples) much more difficult.
As per Mexico border, enforce the law, even if people don't like it. I am not a fan of the wall, although unions might appreciate organized labor doing the work if it is done *wink*
Will he put religious right figures in power spots that may overturn Roe v Wade and gay marriage? If he does, expect Ds and liberals, and even moderates, to revolt.
Highly doubtful.
What will he do to bring us all together? Obama failed, honestly, on uniting us. Can Trump do it, and if so how? The riots are dumb and should not happen. On the flip side, hate crimes and race issues are increasing. How will he address those and calm a nation on edge?
Obama didn't even TRY. Period. Hate crimes and racial issues are happening because Obama's actions not only ignored part of the problem - that wasn't good enough - he propgated it by inviting people like BLM and Sharpton to the White House in an open display of favoritism and his rhetoric wasn't even a slap on the wrist to the guilty.
Again, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt for now as I wait to see how he comes in, who he surrounds himself with, and what policies he enacts? He has said some dumb things on the trail. Now, it is time to govern, and let's hope he realizes, it is a little hard and softens the tone. Maybe he can bring in a new type of governing, but let's see.
Not sure about this. Softened tones haven't done much up to this point, have they? Maybe a few strong words and one or two hard stances might make some groups of people say "oh hey, this won't work anymore". I highly doubt it, but one could hope... But maybe he will be the strong leader that can be just tough enough on some instances to effect a positive change.
As for giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'm on the fence. It's hard to do this when you don't like somebody lol. I'm still trying to talk myself into this lol
.Finally, after 1/20/2017, people on here and in the US cannot blame anything on Obama. It will be all on Trump. Just as Obama could not blame Bush, Trump cannot blame Obama.
The Rs have the White House, both Houses of Congress, and maybe the Court. Whatever happens is on them. Own it. You wanted it, you got it. Let's see how it plays out.
Were you one of the people who said that Bush couldn't be blamed the first day of Obama's official presidency? Or did you waffle?
I, and many others, don't want to be told what we can or cannot think (or blame) after precedent has already been set by the "preacher". -
Spock
Obama didn't blame Bush? [EMAIL="LOOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLO!LOLO!LO@L!O!L@OL@OL#OL#O#O"]LOOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLO!LOLO!LO@L!O!L@OL@OL#OL#O#O[/EMAIL]
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Heretic
Congrats on being too stupid to comprehend English again! What he was saying was along the lines of how some on this board constantly harped on the blaming of Bush, so in fairness, Obama can't be blamed either. Unless you want to look like a hypocrite.Spock;1823953 wrote:Obama didn't blame Bush? LOOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLO!LOLO!LO@L!O!L@OL@OL#OL#O#O
Although I disagree with the date being set as the instant he takes office. But after he's had a little while to set shit up, yeah, it's all on him. -
fish82
Obama did blame Bush. Repeatedly. I hope Trump is smarter than to repeat Obama's obvious mistake.ptown_trojans_1;1823936 wrote: Finally, after 1/20/2017, people on here and in the US cannot blame anything on Obama. It will be all on Trump. Just as Obama could not blame Bush, Trump cannot blame Obama.
Well, it probably won't be any worse than 2010 was for you people, so they have that going for them.ptown_trojans_1;1823936 wrote:The Rs have the White House, both Houses of Congress, and maybe the Court. Whatever happens is on them. Own it. You wanted it, you got it. Let's see how it plays out. -
QuakerOatsWolves of Babylon;1823904 wrote:Trump already walking back repeal and replace and talking about amending Obamacare.
He is a big fan of keeping pre-existing conditions and allowing children to stay on parents insurance.
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He will be eliminating the individual mandate, which is the heart and soul of obamaKare; game over. -
thavoiceFor those who think that because the good guys, a la the republics, will have the WH and Congress.........do not forget one big thing.
Those representatives first and most important job, TO THEM, is getting reelected. Plain and simple. They wont be supporting some total BS that some think are going to get rubber stamped. There will be big blow back to those getting reelected in 2/4/6 years so even though they may be a republican they wont be just backing anything the Trumpster is going to be sending their way. -
QuakerOats
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Spock
i cant wait for $1.00 gas
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Con_Alma...and you can say bye, bye to the Iran deal.
If Mr. Trump strictly enforces this deal Iran will back out.