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  • MontyBrunswick
    decades of experience vs no experience

    Hillary...........
  • O-Trap
    MontyBrunswick;1799651 wrote:decades of experience vs no experience

    Hillary...........
    Her experience doesn't hit decades until 2021 unless you count her years in the "Wife of the President" position.
  • gut
    O-Trap;1799729 wrote:Her experience doesn't hit decades until 2021 unless you count her years in the "Wife of the President" position.
    To be fair, that's the only time she accomplished anything
  • QuakerOats
    MontyBrunswick;1799651 wrote:decades of experience vs no experience

    Hillary...........

    Decades of experience obstructing justice, laundering money, peddling influence, being negligent in office, and serial lying.

    VS.

    "No experience", despite building up multi-billion dollar businesses worldwide, and now calling out the political shills, hacks and the corrupted for putting America in the dire straits it is in.


    Only a moron or someone on the take would vote for Hillary.
  • O-Trap
    gut;1799730 wrote:To be fair, that's the only time she accomplished anything
    Rep'd
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1799748 wrote:
    Only a moron or someone on the take would vote for Hillary.
    Then Richard Armitage is a moron
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431

    The R National Security establishment is running away from Trump.
  • QuakerOats
    Good, maybe they better re-think everything that has led to global insecurity and the rise of terrorism.
  • CenterBHSFan
    ptown_trojans_1;1799800 wrote:Then Richard Armitage is a moron
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431

    The R National Security establishment is running away from Trump.
    It's not like the average person gives a damn about Richard Armitage. He's not exactly a litmus test for anybody who goes to vote.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Saw a pretty good description of the two from someone from (I think) the National Review, didn't catch his name. He said Hillary's lies are planned and practiced (you know they're lies and you basically can predict what's coming), while Trump lies like someone with Tourette's, you and possibly he has no idea what lie he's going to spew from moment to moment.
  • Wolves of Babylon
    Anyone think Trump actually has a chance barring FBI indictment or will it be largest landslide in history?

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  • QuakerOats
    I have no idea what to think, but I have heard a lot of people who say Trump will win a landslide. It is just all over the place.
  • Automatik
    Wolves of Babylon;1801010 wrote:Anyone think Trump actually has a chance barring FBI indictment or will it be largest landslide in history?

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    I predict a record low voter turnout and a significant victory for Clinton.
  • O-Trap
    Wolves of Babylon;1801010 wrote:Anyone think Trump actually has a chance barring FBI indictment or will it be largest landslide in history?

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    I think this underestimates the bumpkins and rednecks who might turn out to vote.
  • Spock
    If you listen to the media and how they are talking about the whole rebublican party....Trump has no chance. Cross your fingers and hope the FBI perp walks Hiliary in hand cuffs.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1801041 wrote:I have no idea what to think, but I have heard a lot of people who say Trump will win a landslide. It is just all over the place.
    Who are those people and what's their cred?

    Looking at the polling average, it certainly does not look good for Trump.
    Still, that could change over the summer.

    The more I think about, the more I think the map largely changes. It is possible Trump can take Ohio, Penn, and FL, but lose VA and Utah, and AZ and Clinton still wins.
  • CenterBHSFan
    O-Trap;1801072 wrote:I think this underestimates the bumpkins and rednecks who might turn out to vote.
    In a way, this is correct only if you live in a larger city/area.

    I live in a more rural type of area and - since AFL-CIO officially endorsed Hillary, the union people that I personally have talked to (and there's a huge amount in my area, although that is dwindling rapidly) are pissed off about it and scratching their heads. They see their union as biting their own asses with this and don't like it one bit.
    So, I think that even if you get the headliners throwing their names into a bucket, it doesn't mean that the rank and file are walking instep with them.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Not that it matters to this crowd, but the national security experts keep endorsing Clinton.
    Brent Scrowcoft, is seen by many as the best National Security Adviser in recent history under HW Bush.
    This is a big one in the foreign policy circles, and could lead to a tidal wave of endorsements.
    More evidence that Trump's foreign policy is such a break from everything we have set up since 1945.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/brent-scowcroft-endorses-hillary-clinton-224677
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1801208 wrote:Not that it matters to this crowd

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/brent-scowcroft-endorses-hillary-clinton-224677
    Can you come off any more of a pretentious douche? Get over yourself, she is a shitty ass candidate.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    like_that;1801209 wrote:Can you come off any more of a pretentious douche? Get over yourself, she is a shitty ass candidate.
    He is worse. That is the point.
  • Belly35
    ptown_trojans_1;1801208 wrote:Not that it matters to this crowd, but the national security experts keep endorsing Clinton.
    Brent Scrowcoft, is seen by many as the best National Security Adviser in recent history under HW Bush.
    This is a big one in the foreign policy circles, and could lead to a tidal wave of endorsements.
    More evidence that Trump's foreign policy is such a break from everything we have set up since 1945.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/brent-scowcroft-endorses-hillary-clinton-224677
    i don't give a fuck who they support .. I care about 4 dead soldiers, stand down order and the sec of State asleep at her job and a dept of incompetent career asshole blaming a video .... No thanks Hillary. I'll take Trump over that type of leadership.
    My code of ethic is never leave anyone behind... You failed at Sec of State no second chances those soldiers did get their support you don't get mine...
  • Con_Alma
    ptown_trojans_1;1801208 wrote:Not that it matters to this crowd, but the national security experts keep endorsing Clinton.
    Brent Scrowcoft, is seen by many as the best National Security Adviser in recent history under HW Bush.
    This is a big one in the foreign policy circles, and could lead to a tidal wave of endorsements.
    More evidence that Trump's foreign policy is such a break from everything we have set up since 1945.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/brent-scowcroft-endorses-hillary-clinton-224677

    Agreed. It doesn't matter...nor should it.
  • QuakerOats
    Heard Trump delivered a hell of a speech today; will have to find it later......Cavs ruled today.
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1801210 wrote:He is worse. That is the point.
    And the point of why people are voting AGAINST Hillary has either gone over your head 100 times now, or you choose to pretend you are smarter than everyone else and remain stubborn.
  • O-Trap
    ptown_trojans_1;1801208 wrote:Not that it matters to this crowd, but the national security experts keep endorsing Clinton.
    Brent Scrowcoft, is seen by many as the best National Security Adviser in recent history under HW Bush.
    This is a big one in the foreign policy circles, and could lead to a tidal wave of endorsements.
    More evidence that Trump's foreign policy is such a break from everything we have set up since 1945.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/brent-scowcroft-endorses-hillary-clinton-224677
    It matters, but it might not be positive. All this really means, it would seem, is that their ideology involving US involvement in other countries is closer.

    Based on our foreign policy over the last few decades, that doesn't inspire confidence.

    Not to suggest that they are incompetent. They're not. Just that all this really means is that their ideologies align more closely, and that there are plenty of Americans that would see this as a strike against Clinton.
  • sleeper
    ptown_trojans_1;1801210 wrote:He is worse. That is the point.
    This.