Hillary Clinton

• sleeper

  

  isadore;1723201 wrote:thank you for making these excellent arguments.
  after 43 penises it is time for a vagina
  she will replicate her husband's presidency that gave us prosperity and budget surpluses
  she is not a member of the party controlled by big business, minded religious fanatics and the Koch brothers

  Or maybe we can just live in a world where people get elected because of their ability rather than their skin color, their gender, or sexual orientation.
  
  I know crazy right! But yeah we totally need to make history here because making history is more important than electing the best candidate.
• Apple

  

  isadore;1723201 wrote:thank you for making these excellent arguments.
  after 43 penises it is time for a vagina
  she will replicate her husband's presidency that gave us prosperity and budget surpluses
  she is not a member of the party controlled by big business, minded religious fanatics and the Koch brothers

  Your premise is filled with holes.
  
  Just to scratch the surface, some would argue that the prosperity and budget surpluses of the 90's had everything to do with the Rs getting control of congress and the purse strings of the budget. Google is a HUGE big business as are many of the other Silicon Valley types. General Motors has the knick-name Government Motors for a reason. It's no secret which way they lean. Add in the MSM, higher education institutions and their elites, Hollywood elites, private and public sector unions (especially teachers) and tell me they aren't controlling or at least walking in lock-step with the Ds. The global warming now climate change folks are nothing short of a fanatical religious group and look at who they control. As others have stated, George Soros has his money spread throughout the Ds.
• sleeper

  

  justincredible;1723220 wrote:George Soros.

  The media coverage on big time D donors is basically nill. People just rant and rave about the Koch brothers but completely ignore big business contributions to the D.
• sleeper

  

  jmog;1723234 wrote:Sounds like a politician to me (unfortunately). We could find the 800 things that Hilary has flip flopped on with a quick google search as well.

  Or Obama. Remember Obama was against same sex marriage when he was elected the first time and now he is for it. You could do this for pretty much any politician really.
• Con_Alma

  jmog;1723234 wrote:Sounds like a politician to me (unfortunately). We could find the 800 things that Hilary has flip flopped on with a quick google search as well.

  
  Agreed. Seems to be an all too common political trait today.
• wkfan

  sleeper;1723240 wrote:Or maybe we can just live in a world where people get elected because of their ability rather than their skin color, their gender, or sexual orientation.
  
  I know crazy right! But yeah we totally need to make history here because making history is more important than electing the best candidate.

  Come on...what world do you think we live in?
  
  Besides, we made history in 2008...and look how well that worked for us.
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1723244 wrote:Agreed. Seems to be an all too common political trait today.

  Even from your boy Santorum.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1723250 wrote:Even from your boy Santorum.

  I don't know what you mean by my boy but it's all too common for Paul, Clinton, Santorum, et al.*
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1723251 wrote:I don't know what you mean by my boy but it's all too common for Paul, Clinton, Santorum, et all.

  I apologize. I was under the impression that you were Rick Santorum's father.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1723252 wrote:I apologize. I was under the impression that you were Rick Santorum's father.

  No worries. Apology accepted. Thanks for the clarification.
• isadore

  Tiernan;1723212 wrote:Uh...actually it's been 44 penises. (Grover Cleveland had boobs tho)

  gosh a ruddies thanks for the info about Grover, but only 43 penises
  Grover is counted twice as President because of having separate terms. so its the same penis twice.
• isadore

  Apple;1723241 wrote:Your premise is filled with holes.
  
  Just to scratch the surface, some would argue that the prosperity and budget surpluses of the 90's had everything to do with the Rs getting control of congress and the purse strings of the budget. Google is a HUGE big business as are many of the other Silicon Valley types. General Motors has the knick-name Government Motors for a reason. It's no secret which way they lean. Add in the MSM, higher education institutions and their elites, Hollywood elites, private and public sector unions (especially teachers) and tell me they aren't controlling or at least walking in lock-step with the Ds. The global warming now climate change folks are nothing short of a fanatical religious group and look at who they control. As others have stated, George Soros has his money spread throughout the Ds.

  The Prosperity and Budget, wow. President Bush sure did a great job of providing us with prosperity, plunging us into the recession. And that is true of Both Bushes. But in the middle Clinton gave us prosperity. As to budget surplus, given your view a Republican Congress and Republican President should give us a guaranteed surplus. Well that has not happened for over 75 years. Nice job President Clinton on giving us a surplus. Gosh a ruddies your claims about big business being so strongly for the Dems. And who do you use as an example non-profits and GM and silicon valley Gosh GM spending seems pretty evenly split for a company in the bag for the dems as does Dell. Every once in a while we find a decent rich person who is willing to spend money for the benefit of society but the great bulk of them use their money in order to screw over those in need and protect their own wealth, power and influence like the Kochs.
  
  https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=2014&id=D000000155
  https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00369751
  
• isadore

  sleeper;1723240 wrote:Or maybe we can just live in a world where people get elected because of their ability rather than their skin color, their gender, or sexual orientation.
  
  I know crazy right! But yeah we totally need to make history here because making history is more important than electing the best candidate.

  gosh a ruddies for over 200 years plus years being white, straight male was de rigueur to be President.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1723318 wrote:gosh a ruddies for over 200 years plus years being white, straight male was de rigueur to be President.

  Well so far only a white male has been able to give us a budget surplus.
• isadore

  sleeper;1723319 wrote:Well so far only a white male has been able to give us a budget surplus.

  and by voting for Hillary we can put the last white man to do it back in the White House.
• Tiernan

  Wolf Blitzer was babbling on about a Bush / Kasich ticket last night just so the GOP could count on taking both FL & OH. Big F'n Deal...it's still two dipshits that don't get anybody excited except a Methodist Potluck. Where is the Repub Star? Is there even one out there? Don't think so...Hillary Rodham Clinton is #45 slam dunk.
• jmog

  isadore;1723314 wrote:The Prosperity and Budget, wow. President Bush sure did a great job of providing us with prosperity, plunging us into the recession. And that is true of Both Bushes. But in the middle Clinton gave us prosperity. As to budget surplus, given your view a Republican Congress and Republican President should give us a guaranteed surplus. Well that has not happened for over 75 years. Nice job President Clinton on giving us a surplus. Gosh a ruddies your claims about big business being so strongly for the Dems. And who do you use as an example non-profits and GM and silicon valley Gosh GM spending seems pretty evenly split for a company in the bag for the dems as does Dell. Every once in a while we find a decent rich person who is willing to spend money for the benefit of society but the great bulk of them use their money in order to screw over those in need and protect their own wealth, power and influence like the Kochs.
  
  https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=2014&id=D000000155
  https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00369751

  Am I the only one that finds it comical that your sources is an organization owned by George Soros?
• isadore

  jmog;1723349 wrote:Am I the only one that finds it comical that your sources is an organization owned by George Soros?

  no it is not owned by George Soros
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1723334 wrote:and by voting for Hillary we can put the last white man to do it back in the White House.

  Except Bill won't have any power and Hillary isn't going to pull together people from the other side. The Republicans don't respect her and neither do some Democrats. She will be a colossal failure and continue the Obama's vision of divide and conquer. But it will be cool because we at least made history! Yay!
• gut

  isadore;1723318 wrote:gosh a ruddies for over 200 years plus years being white, straight male was de rigueur to be President.

  Does being female trump being hispanic? Which minority should we give the WH to for being a minority rather than the most qualified?
• sleeper

  

  gut;1723369 wrote:Does being female trump being hispanic? Which minority should we give the WH to for being a minority rather than the most qualified?

  We've already made history with a minority so being female is more important so we can make history again. After Hilary's 8 years, we will then need to elect a homosexual so we can once again make history. The reality is, the focus is becoming more and more on hiring people because of their gender/race/sexual orientation so that anyone who criticizes can simple be labeled a racist/sexist/bigot as needed. It's a sad day.
• isadore

  sleeper;1723356 wrote:Except Bill won't have any power and Hillary isn't going to pull together people from the other side. The Republicans don't respect her and neither do some Democrats. She will be a colossal failure and continue the Obama's vision of divide and conquer. But it will be cool because we at least made history! Yay!

  gosh a ruddies how can you be so consistently wrong. She will use the sage advise of Mr. Clinton and will unite us, giving peace, security and prosperity. bank on it.
• isadore

  gut;1723369 wrote:Does being female trump being hispanic? Which minority should we give the WH to for being a minority rather than the most qualified?

  one group is the majority now, the other will be the majority in the not to distant future.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1723373 wrote:gosh a ruddies how can you be so consistently wrong. She will use the sage advise of Mr. Clinton and will unite us, giving peace, security and prosperity. bank on it.

  Then I would hope the Republicans file a lawsuit to challenge Mr. and Mrs. Clinton for violating the 22nd amendment of the US Constitution. Of course this would be seen as sexism from the liberal media and they'd get away with it.
• jmog

  isadore;1723354 wrote:no it is not owned by George Soros

  George Soros owns The Open Society which funds Opensecrets.org.
  
  Do you have any other questions?