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Hillary Clinton

  • jmog
    Heretic;1781161 wrote:Yeah, one seems to now be relying on bringing out fossils whose idea of feminism is telling women they're fucking morons if they don't vote for the woman (AND IGNORE ALL ALLEGATIONS OF WRONG-DOING!!!!!) and the other two have popularity because of their "outsider" status where they're essentially running on the platform of "uh, I'm not like these other people, so go me!". Trump's an ignorant asshole who's main trait is being the loudest guy in a room delivering all the good sound bites. Bernie just has so many annoying groupie fans that spend a ton of time (roughly as much as Quaker does spouting his talking points) on social media promoting him (look! it's an old guy who's cool! voat! voat! voat!) to the extent I just want to move to a distant island and shut myself off from humanity to keep away from them all.

    But I didn't win that Powerball, so fuck... :(
    I can't agree more. Those top 3 contenders are the worst we have ever had, it is sickening to be honest.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    Here is my distress with this whole Hillary issue:

    Let's say the email stuff takes her down. Then we're left with Bernie Sanders. Principled as he may be, is he really a person we want in the west wing? And let's say he's not electable. Then it looks like we're left to chose an egomaniac who cannot propose a practical solution to any of the problems he identifies, and a right wing zealot who equates his campaign to a "mission from God" (ala Blues Brothers). God I hope Kasich can make a go of it these next few weeks.
  • Heretic
    jmog;1781163 wrote:I can't agree more. Those top 3 contenders are the worst we have ever had, it is sickening to be honest.
    Yeah, and at least I would go top 4, as there's something about Cruz that makes me want to obsessively cleanse myself every single time I see him or hear him speak. Slimeball zealot senses tingling, I guess.

    It probably says a lot about the state of things when, on this site, most people either would support or at least tolerate a Rubio/Kasich sort of deal...while nationally, those two seem to be 3rd and (maybe) 4th on the R side because they either don't cater enough to the far right or aren't bombastic enough to get all the attention.

    If anything, starting with roughly 4000 candidates was not the best idea. With that many people fighting for the spotlight, the quality got shunted to the side with the quantity, while the loudest and most intrusive got the attention.
  • sleeper
    Heretic;1781174 wrote:Yeah, and at least I would go top 4, as there's something about Cruz that makes me want to obsessively cleanse myself every single time I see him or hear him speak. Slimeball zealot senses tingling, I guess.

    It probably says a lot about the state of things when, on this site, most people either would support or at least tolerate a Rubio/Kasich sort of deal...while nationally, those two seem to be 3rd and (maybe) 4th on the R side because they either don't cater enough to the far right or aren't bombastic enough to get all the attention.

    If anything, starting with roughly 4000 candidates was not the best idea. With that many people fighting for the spotlight, the quality got shunted to the side with the quantity, while the loudest and most intrusive got the attention.
    Agreed with the Cruz analysis. That guy is horrible as well.
  • gut
    sleeper;1781177 wrote:Agreed with the Cruz analysis. That guy is horrible as well.
    If he had a monocle, he'd be a dead ringer for the Penguin.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    jmog;1781163 wrote:I can't agree more. Those top 3 contenders are the worst we have ever had, it is sickening to be honest.
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1781172 wrote:Here is my distress with this whole Hillary issue:

    Let's say the email stuff takes her down. Then we're left with Bernie Sanders. Principled as he may be, is he really a person we want in the west wing? And let's say he's not electable. Then it looks like we're left to chose an egomaniac who cannot propose a practical solution to any of the problems he identifies, and a right wing zealot who equates his campaign to a "mission from God" (ala Blues Brothers). God I hope Kasich can make a go of it these next few weeks.
    Agreed on all parts.
    While Hillary has a ton of faults, it s better the devil you know versus the devil you don't.
  • gut
    ptown_trojans_1;1781194 wrote:Agreed on all parts.
    While Hillary has a ton of faults, it s better the devil you know versus the devil you don't.
    Going to disagree when it comes to the Bernie Madoff of politics.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    gut;1781197 wrote:Going to disagree when it comes to the Bernie Madoff of politics.
    I would rather have her than Bernie, Trump, or Cruz.
    At least I know what I am getting with her. The others are either crazy ideologues or have no clue what they are talking about.
  • superman
    ptown_trojans_1;1781201 wrote:I would rather have her than Bernie, Trump, or Cruz.
    At least I know what I am getting with her. The others are either crazy ideologues or have no clue what they are talking about.
    I've heard a lot of bullshit spin from you but this takes the cake. I know you're a shill for the Democratic party but wow.
  • bases_loaded
    ptown_trojans_1;1781201 wrote:I would rather have her than Bernie, Trump, or Cruz.
    At least I know what I am getting with her. The others are either crazy ideologues or have no clue what they are talking about.
    Of the 4 people you named...outside of maybe Cruz you know the least of what you are getting from that two faced felon.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    superman;1781202 wrote:I've heard a lot of bullshit spin from you but this takes the cake. I know you're a shill for the Democratic party but wow.
    No, not at all. I actually like Rubio, Bush, and most of Kasich. I would probably take them over Clinton.
    bases_loaded;1781205 wrote:Of the 4 people you named...outside of maybe Cruz you know the least of what you are getting from that two faced felon.
    Cruz is nuts and nothing he says will ever get implemented because he has no concept of working with Congress. He has no friends, no allies. Same goes for Bernie on the otherwise. Trump is so freaking general that I have no way to know if he is serious about anything he says. It is all about trust and faith.

    Given all that, again., give me what I already know, and if it is Clinton, oh well. Least bad option.
  • Belly35
    ptown_trojans_1;1781207 wrote:No, not at all. I actually like Rubio, Bush, and most of Kasich. I would probably take them over Clinton.



    Cruz is nuts and nothing he says will ever get implemented because he has no concept of working with Congress. He has no friends, no allies. Same goes for Bernie on the otherwise. Trump is so freaking general that I have no way to know if he is serious about anything he says. It is all about trust and faith.

    Given all that, again., give me what I already know, and if it is Clinton, oh well. Least bad option.
    Lying Traitor is that what you want to run the country.
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/11/dem-debate-avoids-questions-about-clinton-foundation/



    The beat goes on ..........
  • gut
    The State Dept subpoenaed the foundation? Wow, hadn't heard that.

    We might see how much of a loyal "true believer" Abedin is. Or maybe just looking at the future WH Chief of Staff.
  • QuakerOats
    Another tranche of emails coming this weekend.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    QuakerOats;1781230 wrote:Another tranche of emails coming this weekend.
    You know damn well she's not going down for this. So what do you do with a presidential election pool of Trump, Cruz, Clinton, and Sanders?
  • QuakerOats
    Hope that Christie, Fiorina, Carson supporters all go for Kasich and maybe he can make it a race (although I have no significant issues with Cruz and it would be fun to see him crush Clinton in the debates). Still hoping that we somehow arrive at Kasich/Rubio ticket ............... our best chance to win because its our best chance to win OH and FL, and we gotta have those states.
  • Spock
    ptown_trojans_1;1781201 wrote:I would rather have her than Bernie, Trump, or Cruz.
    At least I know what I am getting with her. The others are either crazy ideologues or have no clue what they are talking about.
    you think your so smart about politics.....remember when you voted for Obama for his foreign policy experience (ended up being the worst presidents in a long time).....now HC is a better option that everyone else????
  • gut
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1781233 wrote:You know damn well she's not going down for this.
    Hillary never goes down....is that you, Slick Willy?
  • Spock
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1781233 wrote:You know damn well she's not going down for this. So what do you do with a presidential election pool of Trump, Cruz, Clinton, and Sanders?
    i think she is
  • HitsRus
    QuakerOats;1781234 wrote:Hope that Christie, Fiorina, Carson supporters all go for Kasich and maybe he can make it a race (although I have no significant issues with Cruz and it would be fun to see him crush Clinton in the debates). Still hoping that we somehow arrive at Kasich/Rubio ticket ............... our best chance to win because its our best chance to win OH and FL, and we gotta have those states.
    I'd have to agree with that on the grounds that so many of the other candidates are so far out on the extremes as to be completely unpalatable to large swaths of the population. I still have to believe (perhaps wrongly)that the majority of voting Americans are moderate at heart.

    I watched the Dem debates for as long as I could stand it....and the thing that struck me is how far and how fast the party is moving to the left. They don't even seem to be on the same planet as the 'pubs. the politics of division have come home to roost, and no matter which way the country eventually lurches, I don't see anything but more of the gridlock that has plagued us the past 7 years.

    To me, the most frightening thing is a Bernie Sanders presidency. His anti-corporate/anti Wall Street rhetoric combined with policies that would balloon the deficit cannot bode well for the dollar as a reserve currency. The U.S. system is the stabilizing force in world economics.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Belly35;1781209 wrote:Lying Traitor is that what you want to run the country.
    Again, at least I know what I am getting. I would rather have that than the unknown Trump, insane Cruz, or insane Bernie.

    The whole point is to show how sad the state of politics is now. I am willing to vote for something that is shady over someone that is crazy as shit, a right wing ideologue, and a left wing ideologue.

    I do hope the Governors and Rubio can make a good push.
    Spock;1781235 wrote:you think your so smart about politics.....remember when you voted for Obama for his foreign policy experience (ended up being the worst presidents in a long time).....now HC is a better option that everyone else????
    Yeah, because, again, the other options were worse. McCain was fine (was a huge supporter of him), until he picked Palin. Romney was not Presidential material and his ideas and foreign policy advisers were Neocons. So, yeah, Obama was the better choice I would say.
  • HitsRus
    ^^^While I agree with you about the governors and Rubio, Romney would have been so much better than Barry. As bad as you think the neo cons are/were....foreign policy has been a disaster. How could it have gotten worse?
  • superman
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    This brought the lulz.
  • fish82
    superman;1781317 wrote:[video][/video]
    This brought the lulz.
    By no means a Cruz fan, but that flat-out kicked ass.