Hillary Clinton
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Automatik
I AM OUTRAGED. -
QuakerOats
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rrfan
Pretend there is no political party....no someone tell me you would actually vote for her. This county is full of very intelligent winners why on earth is it so hard to find a qualified president.
I will take a business person over a politician any day! -
Dr Winston O'Boogie
She feels entitled to the office.rrfan;1773748 wrote:Pretend there is no political party....no someone tell me you would actually vote for her. This county is full of very intelligent winners why on earth is it so hard to find a qualified president.
I will take a business person over a politician any day!
It takes an unusual person to subject themselves to the modern campaign scrutiny. I don't think a lot of people - otherwise qualified - have any interest in putting themselves and their family through that. Just my opinion.
As far as a business person for president, I take it on a case-by-case basis. George Bush was a business person and I think he was a horrible president. But I don't think that was necessarily due to his business background. -
Belly35
Please oh please .... explain to me why Hillary has not been arrested, in court or in jail .... -
wkfan
The Clinton's do radiate that they are the 'royal family' of the United States.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1773779 wrote:She feels entitled to the office.
Is this because he has an 'R' after his name?Dr Winston O'Boogie;1773779 wrote:As far as a business person for president, I take it on a case-by-case basis. George Bush was a business person and I think he was a horrible president. But I don't think that was necessarily due to his business background. -
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Not because he has an R after his name. I voted for him in 2000. I think he was a horrible president because of the Iraq war.wkfan;1773782 wrote:The Clinton's do radiate that they are the 'royal family' of the United States.
Is this because he has an 'R' after his name? -
Spock
I would take a college educated military person over bothrrfan;1773748 wrote:Pretend there is no political party....no someone tell me you would actually vote for her. This county is full of very intelligent winners why on earth is it so hard to find a qualified president.
I will take a business person over a politician any day! -
majorspark
I know you are not a Hillary fanboy but unless things change come November she may be the only candidate on stage that was all in with a vote on record for the Iraq war. Bush did not act alone. His executive order to invade was given by congress.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1773796 wrote: I think he was a horrible president because of the Iraq war. -
Dr Winston O'Boogie
You're right about that. Bush was not responsible alone. Hillary has done everything possible to distance herself from her vote (along with many others such as John Kerry). I don't like Hillary in any way and hate the fact that she is the leading candidate. Go Bernie!majorspark;1773993 wrote:I know you are not a Hillary fanboy but unless things change come November she may be the only candidate on stage that was all in with a vote on record for the Iraq war. Bush did not act alone. His executive order to invade was given by congress. -
BoatShoes
Had Hillary become president in 2008 she would have nominated Richard Holbrooke to be Secretary of State. Probably the best diplomat in modern times. One of Obama's biggest mistakes was undercutting him when he was the special envoy to Afghanistan.rrfan;1773748 wrote:Pretend there is no political party....no someone tell me you would actually vote for her. This county is full of very intelligent winners why on earth is it so hard to find a qualified president.
I will take a business person over a politician any day!
President's make their biggest mark in foreign affairs and she has more experience in that area than any candidate in recent history. Moreover, while she is not as talented as Holbrooke was, I think we turn Obama's foreign policy away from "Diplomacy backed by uncredible threats of force" to a more Holbrookean Diplomacy backed by credible threats of force.
That is preferable to the current doctrines adhered to by some candidates in the race who seem to think speaking boisterously and recklessly swinging around a big stick can bend world order to our will and other candidates who seem to think it's not necessary to carry a big stick and that we can let world order go as it might.
Domestic policy proposals are almost irrelevant because even when they have the whole deck, like Obama and Bush did early in their presidencies, they don't pursue their whole policy agenda.
Moreover, Hillary probably reappoints Yellen or appoints Summers to the Fed and Yellen is the savior of the U.S. economy (so far...could still blow it).
Monetary hawks like her opponents probably appoint John Taylor who has been calling for hikes for years now.
And Hillary is a Jelly Maker while Sanders is a Tree shaker, as the saying goes.
P.s. I think Jeb Bush is probably the second best candidate as I think he wants to undo what Gingrich did to his father and return the GOP to moderation. He just cannot sell being this hardcore conservative and everyone knows and that is why he fails. -
Belly35
Can we just impeach Hillary as a canidate now .....
Impeach Hillary, Impeach Hillary, Impeach Hillary -
BoatShoes
Because she is not actually a criminal just like Obummer didn't actually bang Vera baker or whatever it is you believe about her. The right wing media deceives you into believing this stuff is true with the greatest con around..."Everyone else is lying! They are liberals! Trust us!" and then they fan the flames all the way to the bank.Belly35;1773781 wrote:Please oh please .... explain to me why Hillary has not been arrested, in court or in jail .... -
like_that
You sure eat up every bullshit spin out there. Hillary at best severely lacks any integrity. Congrats.BoatShoes;1774024 wrote:Because she is not actually a criminal just like Obummer didn't actually bang Vera baker or whatever it is you believe about her. The right wing media deceives you into believing this stuff is true with the greatest con around..."Everyone else is lying! They are liberals! Trust us!" and then they fan the flames all the way to the bank. -
BoatShoes
Whatever makes you feel better : thumbup:like_that;1774029 wrote:You sure eat up every bullshit spin out there. Hillary at best severely lacks any integrity. Congrats. -
like_that
Simple yes or no question, since I know you will get into your long winded spin BS. Do you believe Hillary is a candidate of character and integrity?BoatShoes;1774041 wrote:Whatever makes you feel better : thumbup: -
rrfan
I would be interested in hearing more on this. I know a few Navy Seals and I have to tell you I would trust them to run this country over any of the current list.Spock;1773932 wrote:I would take a college educated military person over both -
rrfan
Sounds like a lot of probably' s and I thinks. Knowing what you know now about Hillary how on earth could you vote for her? I don't care D or R she is a mess.BoatShoes;1774015 wrote:Had Hillary become president in 2008 she would have nominated Richard Holbrooke to be Secretary of State. Probably the best diplomat in modern times. One of Obama's biggest mistakes was undercutting him when he was the special envoy to Afghanistan.
President's make their biggest mark in foreign affairs and she has more experience in that area than any candidate in recent history. Moreover, while she is not as talented as Holbrooke was, I think we turn Obama's foreign policy away from "Diplomacy backed by uncredible threats of force" to a more Holbrookean Diplomacy backed by credible threats of force.
That is preferable to the current doctrines adhered to by some candidates in the race who seem to think speaking boisterously and recklessly swinging around a big stick can bend world order to our will and other candidates who seem to think it's not necessary to carry a big stick and that we can let world order go as it might.
Domestic policy proposals are almost irrelevant because even when they have the whole deck, like Obama and Bush did early in their presidencies, they don't pursue their whole policy agenda.
Moreover, Hillary probably reappoints Yellen or appoints Summers to the Fed and Yellen is the savior of the U.S. economy (so far...could still blow it).
Monetary hawks like her opponents probably appoint John Taylor who has been calling for hikes for years now.
And Hillary is a Jelly Maker while Sanders is a Tree shaker, as the saying goes.
P.s. I think Jeb Bush is probably the second best candidate as I think he wants to undo what Gingrich did to his father and return the GOP to moderation. He just cannot sell being this hardcore conservative and everyone knows and that is why he fails. -
BoatShoes
Yes.like_that;1774049 wrote:Simple yes or no question, since I know you will get into your long winded spin BS. Do you believe Hillary is a candidate of character and integrity?
The shit has been thrown against the wall for thirty years and some of it stuck to you. Congratulations. You are in good company with hopeless Bernie supporters who are sure Hillary is scheming to undo their savior. -
BoatShoesrrfan;1774069 wrote:Sounds like a lot of probably' s and I thinks. Knowing what you know now about Hillary how on earth could you vote for her? I don't care D or R she is a mess.
Ole Ronny's quote now applies to 10 million or so minority of Americans who know ​Hillary should be in jail. -
like_that
Could've just saved yourself time posting this.BoatShoes;1774178 wrote:Nothing to see here, please move along! -
like_that
Hey guise! Nothing to see here, plz don't pay attention. /BoatShoes
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-department-releases-more-clinton-emails-several-marked-classified/ -
rrfan
Pay no attention to that. She is class and full of integrity...LOllike_that;1774245 wrote:Hey guise! Nothing to see here, plz don't pay attention. /BoatShoes
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-department-releases-more-clinton-emails-several-marked-classified/