Disgusted with kasich administration - Part III

• Bigdogg

  Is there a good reason why the last one was the last one closed and belly raves on?
  
  So what is king John and his merry men of idiots been up to besides giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money, which really deserves a thread by itself? How about this! In yesterday’s revised budget bill, Republicans included a provision that would &#8220rohibit the teaching of sexual education coursework that endorses non-abstinence as an acceptable behavior or promotes sexual gateway activity“. This includes touching of the “thigh, genitals, buttock, pubic region or… breasts”.
  It also prevents schools from handing out condoms or teaching kids how to properly use condoms, and it allows parents or guardians to sue for up to $5,000 if the law is broken.
  
  Ironically, the legislation in Tennessee was passed because, its supporters said, Tennessee has the seventh-highest teen pregnancy birth rate and has the eleventh highest rate of HIV in the nation despite the fact that Tennessee law has required abstinence-only education for years.
  
  Apparently, Tennessee thought their problems stemmed from not enough abstinence in their abstinence only education system and not from, you know, actual facts like the countless studies that point out that teen pregency and HIV infection rates tend to be higher in areas with only abstenence-only education.
  
  A year later, and Tennessee is still 13th in teenage pregnancy rates (note: that’s different from teenage birth rates). So how’s that working for ya, Tennessee?
  
  Here’s Stephen Colbert’s take on Tennessee’s version of the law:
  [video]http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/412838/april-18-2012/the-word---gateway-hug[/video]
• justincredible

  

  Bigdogg;1428082 wrote:Is there a good reason why the last one was the last one closed and belly raves on?

  There hasn't been a post in it in 4 months. Threads autolock after a couple months. There's your reason.
• fish82

  

  http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/18-q-poll-ohioans.html
  

  Kasich carried a 52-percent job approval rating, 46-percent favorability, and was picked over potential Democratic challengers Ed FitzGerald and Richard Cordray in a poll released this morning by Quinnipiac University.
  
  In head-to-head matchups, Kasich led Democratic Cuyahoga County Executive FitzGerald 46 percent to 37 percent. The governor led Cordray, currently the director of the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 45 percent to 38 percent. Both of those potential races are virtually unchanged from February.
  
  “In a state where self-described Democrats outnumber Republicans 35 – 27 percent, Kasich seems to be in reasonably good shape as he looks ahead to the 2014 gubernatorial election,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.”

  :laugh:
• Bigdogg

  fish82;1428104 wrote:http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/18-q-poll-ohioans.html
  
  
  
  :laugh:

  As usual you fail to tell the whole story.
  

  Despite his steady approval rating, Kasich remains below the 50 percent mark when voters are asked if he deserves re-election; 46 percent said yes, 37 percent no.

• Bigdogg

  justincredible;1428089 wrote:There hasn't been a post in it in 4 months. Threads autolock after a couple months. There's your reason.

  I have been too busy and nobody is paying me for my post like some on here.
• fish82

  

  Bigdogg;1428112 wrote:As usual you fail to tell the whole story.

  Because it's irrelevant. Whether he "deserves" re-election or not, as of today he beats anyone you people put up against him. :rolleyes:
  
  If you think a sitting governor is going to lose re-election with a 52% approval rating, then you should probably just stick with the silly Ohio = Tennessee condom story.
  
  I know you're super duper busy and all, so I'll just let you get back to it.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Bigdogg;1428082 wrote:In yesterday’s revised budget bill, Republicans included a provision that would &#8220rohibit the teaching of sexual education coursework that endorses non-abstinence as an acceptable behavior or promotes sexual gateway activity“. This includes touching of the “thigh, genitals, buttock, pubic region or… breasts”.
  It also prevents schools from handing out condoms or teaching kids how to properly use condoms, and it allows parents or guardians to sue for up to $5,000 if the law is broken.

  Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.
• bases_loaded

  

  ernest_t_bass;1428242 wrote:Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.

  
  This. It's the parents job not the schools.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Don't get me wrong. I think some students definitely need that education. But I'm not comfortable with my daughters learning about "safe sex" at the public school. My wife and I will be teaching abstinence.
• jmog

  My wife and I have also been teaching our sons sex education, not the schools.
  
  I will definitely explain why abstinence is by far the best policy until they are in an ADULT serious relationship (would prefer marriage, but understand reality).
  
  I will also explain to them how condoms work.
  
  It is my responsiblity as a parent, not a school's responsibility to explain to them how mutual masterbation and blow jobs are ok because you can't get pregnant. Like that DOESN'T lead to intercourse...
• BoatShoes

  There's no way Fitzgerald is going to win if 2014 shapes up like 2010 (which it looks like it's going to IMHO). He's not going to have Obama for America and the AFL-CIO ground game that Obama had.
• Bigdogg

  ernest_t_bass;1428242 wrote:Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.

  Not suprised, ignorance is bliss. If you want to debate the merits, I will educate you but you got to start a separate thread on your own.
  

  By saying no to broadening Medicaid’s reach, House Republicans turned against groups that historically have been their political allies and campaign contributors, including the Ohio Hospital Association, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce, Ohio Right to Life, major health insurers and other influential groups supporting the expansion.Instead, House Republicans stripped Kasich’s two-year budget of Medicaid services for 275,000 more Ohio adults without health-care coverage, which were to be paid for by $13 billion in federal aid over seven years. That would have saved state taxpayers $400 million over the next two years.

  
  
  http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/12/battle-lines-solidify-in-medicaid-debate.html
• Sage

  

  Kasich is a clown, this is well known.
• Bigdogg

  Even the Dispatch is scratching their heads.
  
  
  [h=1]Legislator’s sex-ed proposal baffles some educators[/h]http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/sex-ed-proposal-baffles-some.html
• BoatShoes

  Bigdogg;1428390 wrote:Even the Dispatch is scratching their heads.
  
  
  Legislator’s sex-ed proposal baffles some educators
  
  http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/sex-ed-proposal-baffles-some.html

  What does that have to do with John Kasich?
• HitsRus

  

  So what is king John and his merry men of idiots been up to besides giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money,

  Link?...ugh....it might be because Kasich, as well as some of his own party members, are not in favor of "giving away millions" of federally coerced medicaid dollars.
• Bigdogg

  HitsRus;1428432 wrote:Link?...ugh....it might be because Kasich, as well as some of his own party members, are not in favor of "giving away millions" of federally coerced medicaid dollars.

  It's been in every newspaper in Ohio this week. It's already our tax money. And Kasich is in FAVOR of Medicaid expansion, it's the right thing to do. WOW craw out from under the rock you been under!
• Bigdogg

  BoatShoes;1428412 wrote:What does that have to do with John Kasich?

  Because attitude reflects leadership. Kasich and his ruling party has shown very little of what he promised to do if elected "focus on jobs like a laser" instead more bull shit social policies. Why do you ask?
• QuakerOats

  Bigdogg;1429178 wrote:Because attitude reflects leadership. Kasich and his ruling party has shown very little of what he promised to do if elected "focus on jobs like a laser" instead more bull **** social policies. Why do you ask?

  
  Actually Kasich has a stellar record in governing and leading Ohio back. All this in the face of the massive, radical assault on business and private enterprise by the obama regime. Had it not been for Kasich's management abilities in offsetting some of the atrocities heaped upon us by obama, I dare say we would be in depression again around here. Although, that could still happen unless we regain control of our federal government from the marxists who have infiltrated it.
• Bigdogg

  QuakerOats;1429251 wrote:Actually Kasich has a stellar record in governing and leading Ohio back. All this in the face of the massive, radical assault on business and private enterprise by the obama regime. Had it not been for Kasich's management abilities in offsetting some of the atrocities heaped upon us by obama, I dare say we would be in depression again around here. Although, that could still happen unless we regain control of our federal government from the marxists who have infiltrated it.

  ^^^Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post! Ohio's recovery started before any of Johnnie's policies took effect, thanks to the auto bailout, and Ohio's "recovery" since looks just like all the other states, but whatever kool-aid you are drinking save some for the next two years, you will need it.
• QuakerOats

  Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post. Polls out just this week show Kasich trouncing any and all prospective opponents. Good luck; you're going to need it.
• Bigdogg

  QuakerOats;1429462 wrote:Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post. Polls out just this week show Kasich trouncing any and all prospective opponents. Good luck; you're going to need it.

  As it stands now, I would not be suprised if his own party runs someone against him.
  
  [video=youtube;7evWkcW-kag][/video]
• HitsRus

  

  And Kasich is in FAVOR of Medicaid expansion

  congratulations on figuring it out....so how is he responsible for " giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money" as you imply in your OP?
• Bigdogg

  HitsRus;1429472 wrote:congratulations on figuring it out....so how is he responsible for " giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money" as you imply in your OP?

  Already answered, lack of leadership. Kasich can't even lead is own party. It's been hijacked by the radical Tea Party. All the Republicans are vulnerable the next election. Even the Gerrymandering they did will not save that dying party of angry white old men.
• BoatShoes

  Bigdogg;1430445 wrote:Already answered, lack of leadership. Kasich can't even lead is own party. It's been hijacked by the radical Tea Party. All the Republicans are vulnerable the next election. Even the Gerrymandering they did will not save that dying party of angry white old men.

  Dude, I would like to see Kasich go for a multitude of reasons but this critique is absurd. It is the same critique levied at Obama. The Green lantern Theory of leadership does not exist in real life. If only Kasich and Obama had "Leadership" they could corral the loons. What a joke. Kasich deserves at least some credit for putting out a budget with the obvious no-brainer that is the medicaid expansion. The fact that Ohio Republicans doing their part in the battle against "teh man in th3 wh1teH0use" don't fall in line with the obvious no-brainer doesn't fall on Kasich.
  
  And no, they likely aren't going to be voted out.
  
  The biggest critique that goes on Kasich, (and Sam Brownback and Jerry Brown and all governor's for that matter) is that they balance their budgets relying on the federal budget deficit to pick up the slack and claim to be paragons of fiscal virtue as if they were operating in a vacuum.