Disgusted with obama administration - Part II
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BoatShoes
You should be happy. We can give old people retirement security without taking ridiculous and unjust amounts of taxes from people their whole lives.BGFalcons82;1617257 wrote:Yes there was...it's how it was sold to the people. In reality, JUST LIKE BARRYKARE, it was sold to the people one way and implemented an entirely different way. It's called fraud in our court systems, but when control abd taxation are on the table, then ALL MEANS of selling are permissable. The people buy pablum every time and your marxist brethren KNOW IT. -
BoatShoes
So this is the new thing that Mark Levin & co. are selling you guys to keep the potential for a Benghazi scandal alive, eh? If only those people in Libya were "allowed" to talk we'd find out the true depths of the Obama Administration's evil machinations!!!!BGFalcons82;1617642 wrote:Hey, I have an idea that will end this wordplay...let's talk to the 30+ survivors of the terrorist attack. If the truth is exactly as you portray, they should be able to back it up. It will be interesting to see if your government allows them to testify to the People and Mr. Gowdy. -
BoatShoesjmog;1617581 wrote:Since we are all just "playing roles" you should look up the role of the liberal elitist, you play that role so well you could win an Oscar. You and sleeper are polar opposites with respect to political beliefs but you both use the same "I'm the smartest person in the room" tactics. He does it with just stating "you're a moron", you do it with 5,000 word essays with half a dozen graphs that just SCREAMS "look at how smart I am" when in reality it is probably copy/paste from some Keynesian website.
Between you and I there is only one of us who screams that they are the smartest person in the room and it's the person who calls himself a scientist, touts his degrees and brags about his math scores. The majority of my sources are either the St. Louis Federal Reserve, the home of monetarist economics (not keynesianism) or tradingeconomics.com; neither of those are biased keynesian websites...unlike say the time you posted an article from The Ludwig Von Mises institute.
I'm sorry that it is plainly clear that the Obama administration never blamed the Benghazi attack on the video and that you were swindled by the made up right-wing furor that claimed that was the case. No need to resort to this type of post. Just change your beliefs and move on. -
BoatShoes
Based on your logic the democratic party is the party of smaller deficits because there were lower deficits when they controlled Congress than when the Republicans controlled the Presidency and Congress. But we should just reject your logic in its entirety because it doesn't even take into account that most of the budget deficit is non-discretionary nor do you consider the size of the deficit as a percentage of the economy.jmog;1617582 wrote:The reason that they say they haven't really done any deficit reduction is due to the fact that MOST of the reduction is just NOT continuing to spend the short term bail outs like TARP.
If you set up a 2 or 3 year deal that spends $400 billion a year in the TARP, when that 4th year comes and that $400 billion isn't spent again, that doesn't count as deficit reduction because it WASN'T IN THE PLAN TO BEGIN WITH!
If they had continued the $400 billion/yr then it would have been ADDITIONAL spending/deficit.
You don't get credit for doing nothing (basically letting something expire that was supposed to expire).
You don't get credit for the sequester (even though it was your plan originally) when you blame it on the 'other side'.
Seriously, name a single budget plan that cut actual spending, that Obama put forth and is now in the accounting.
I mean seriously, look at the deficits under Bush vs Obama...Look at the deficits under Obama from when he had 100% control of the government (HoR and Senate) vs now when the Rs have the HoR.
I know you hate people that reduce the deficit, you'd like to see trillions in deficits every year until the end of time, but in the same sentence you can't call Obama a deficit hawk when the facts don't back up your statements.
Look at the deficits the 2 years he had Ds in both houses-$1.4 trillion and $1.3 trillion.
Look at the deficits since the Rs took the HoR-$1.3 trillion, $1.1 trillion, $680 billion, and $649 billion.
What were the deficits the few years before Obama? From 2005-2008 it ranged from $161 billion to $458 billion.
Yeah, he is a real deficit hawk...
So your whole post is off base. Here is the bottom line. You fail to take your position on the federal budget in comparison to the Washington Consensus. You probably think the Federal Government should run a balanced budget basically every year yes? Or close to it? Well the Federal Government has only run a balanced budget or surplus in essentially 7 periods in its entire history. The Middle of the Budget debate is basically where Obama is....who is slightly to the left of the Washington Consensus. You and everyone on this board are well to the right of that consensus.....I am very far off to the left if I can even be considered on the deficit spectrum at all because I am not a deficit hawk in any way shape or form. I am a full employment hawk. The federal budget should target a deficit that generates full employment with the market deciding how large the deficit should be in that case. -
BoatShoes
DERP.QuakerOats;1617883 wrote:There may be nothing left of it in another 1,000 days. -
BoatShoes
Agree. It's terrible. Let's have the federal government hire people that the private sector doesn't want instead.
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gut
Isn't this largely already true?BoatShoes;1618911 wrote:Let's have the federal government hire people that the private sector doesn't want instead. -
BoatShoes
No but I'm sure you don't think that as you're convinced most federal employees are worthless. The military was the de-facto employer of last resort for many people and it is turning away like 80%+ of its applicants. Not hard to see why people are turning to the disability industrial complex, crime, welfare dependency, etc. when you can't even get hired to swab decks.gut;1618917 wrote:Isn't this largely already true? -
QuakerOatsWhen you have a pacifist 'commander-in-chief' cutting military spending to appease the appeasers, what would you expect?
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QuakerOatsHow about doing what works: get the government the hell out of the way of private enterprise.
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gut
Yes, facts tend to be very compelling.BoatShoes;1618958 wrote:...as you're convinced most federal employees are worthless. -
pmoney25
You can't be serious about debt/spending if military cuts are not on the table. The military is not exempt from government bloat.QuakerOats;1618965 wrote:When you have a pacifist 'commander-in-chief' cutting military spending to appease the appeasers, what would you expect?
Obama needs to do more in my opinion.
Not too mention this pacifist you talk about is drone bombing people like crazy killing innocent women and children. -
QuakerOatspmoney25;1619008 wrote:You can't be serious about debt/spending if military cuts are not on the table. The military is not exempt from government bloat.
Obama needs to do more in my opinion.
Not too mention this pacifist you talk about is drone bombing people like crazy killing innocent women and children.
I am certain that there are a lot of savings that are achievable within the defense complex. I also know that the federal government primary responsibility is the defense of the nation, not pissing away a trillion a year coddling the welfare state and public sector unions. Let's cut that trillion in half first.
As for drones, that is what one would expect from a pacifist, especially the one in the WH now. You think he has the background, capability and balls to man up with the enemy directly? Laughable. -
QuakerOatsTodays links from Drudge:
WHISTLEBLOWER: Texas VA Run Like 'Crime Syndicate'...
SUIT: Vet died after being stomped, beaten by VA cops...
IG: Delayed care, record manipulation 'systemic'...
1,700 vets not on official wait list at Phoenix facility...
Average wait time 115 days...
A -- obama has nothing to do with any of this
B -- obamaKare is nothing at all like what has occurred here
C -- change we can believe in ...
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BGFalcons82
Your Dear Leader is holding these witnesses' pensions as ransom for their silence. Your government, who makes Clouseau the equal of Sherlock Holmes, refuses to complete their investigations of the murders, thus leaving this as an "Open Investigation", therefore these eyewitness accounts can't be discussed anywhere, including Gowdy's House Team of Investigators. Get it now?? Your government will keep this mercurial investigation open until the end of time... or whenever a Pub President is elected. Aren't you sooooooooooooo proud to be an Obama-Acolyte?BoatShoes;1618900 wrote:So this is the new thing that Mark Levin & co. are selling you guys to keep the potential for a Benghazi scandal alive, eh? If only those people in Libya were "allowed" to talk we'd find out the true depths of the Obama Administration's evil machinations!!!! -
BGFalcons82
A government-run HealthKare system is the bestest ever idea of all time. Its so fair and honest and free and caring and fast and free and costs less and is adored by anyone with a brain and only hated by meany liberty-loving Southern racists. Your facts are cooked-up by those satanic Koch Brothers.QuakerOats;1620365 wrote:Todays links from Drudge:
WHISTLEBLOWER: Texas VA Run Like 'Crime Syndicate'...
SUIT: Vet died after being stomped, beaten by VA cops...
IG: Delayed care, record manipulation 'systemic'...
1,700 vets not on official wait list at Phoenix facility...
Average wait time 115 days...
A -- obama has nothing to do with any of this
B -- obamaKare is nothing at all like what has occurred here
C -- change we can believe in ...
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Manhattan BuckeyeHis West Point speech was disastrous, he can't even read off his teleprompters any more.
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gut
I wonder if Repubs take the Senate if Obama won't test the limits of just how little a POTUS can do....In 2014 I see him moving full-time onto basically heading ACORN or Organizing for America or whatever his super-PAC is called now.Manhattan Buckeye;1620561 wrote:His West Point speech was disastrous, he can't even read off his teleprompters any more.
One would THINK a second-term POTUS is done campaigning, but actually Hillary winning in 2016 is probably pretty critical to what Obama wants to do post-office. It will be interesting, because both Gore and McCain really distanced themselves from Slick and W...but I expect a lot of people will have the impression that Obama is running for a 3rd term. -
QuakerOatsCommerce Department issues a revised estimate showing the economy shrank in the first quarter at a 1 percent rate, marking the worst performance since 2011.
Throw obamaKare on top of this and the represssion will get second wind. -
TedSheckler
But Bush..... -
QuakerOatsMedia hard-pressed to tell truth on shrinking economy...
1 in 6 Men Between Ages 25-54 Not Working...
The unprecedented War on Jobs rolls on ........ -
IggyPride00
Jay Carney (Minister of Propaganda) is now gone from the regime.
They are fleeing the Dear Leader like rats from a sinking ship right now. -
gut
That is long overdue. It's not a surprise, though. The irony is that when he [inevitably] joins MSNBC he will probably actually be more truthful.IggyPride00;1620994 wrote:Jay Carney (Minister of Propaganda) is now gone from the regime.
They are fleeing the Dear Leader like rats from a sinking ship right now. -
QuakerOatsAfter he stops spinning, he will need 2-3 years of deprogramming to resume being a normal American.
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TedSheckler
He finally ran out of lies.