Who will win the 2012 presidentail election?

• BGFalcons82

  

  QuakerOats;1282174 wrote:You've got to be kidding me. "Unfortunate events" ?????? ....... exactly what liberal appeasers like to re-label assassinations and terrorist attacks. INCREDIBLE.
  
  Our ambassadors are getting assassinated by terrorists, the president is LYING about it, the media is covering it up for him, and you and your liberal elite friends in high places call it an unfortunate event.
  
  Pis$ off.

  I thought Barry said it was a "bump in the road"?
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  We have a site full of Glenn Becks lol. I love it.
• Heretic

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1282189 wrote:We have a site full of Glenn Becks lol. I love it.

  I know! This forum's turned into my "morning comic relief" spot for the average work day.
• ts1227

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1282189 wrote:We have a site full of Glenn Becks lol. I love it.

  
  Glenn Beck even thinks this board is full of batshit crazy right wingers
• ernest_t_bass

  

  
• gut

  It's been comical to watch the progression from unbridled enthusiasm for "hope and change", to "wait and see", to excuses and blame, to rationalization and justifications, and finally to just attacking the alternative and anyone who has given up on the Obama failure as "right-wing" and/or racist.
  
  Must be exhausting and depressing to read the news every day and muster the energy to support Obama.
• fish82

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1282189 wrote:We have a site full of Glenn Becks lol. I love it.

  I confess. I'm a filthy rich alcoholic, with millions of minions who hang on my every word.
  
  #busted
• Heretic

  

  ernest_t_bass;1282293 wrote:

  Another quality Gib pic, Ernest! You do have a niche here, after all!!
• bases_loaded

  

  http://unskewedpolls.com/
• Ty Webb

  

  bases_loaded;1282707 wrote:http://unskewedpolls.com/

  
  Do you honestly buy into this?
• HitsRus

  

  Who cares what the polls say...they are constantly changing and blow with the political winds. Arguing about polls is 'batshit crazy".
  
  I think BHO wins because the tipping point has been reached. While what Romney said might not have been accurate, the jist of what he meant is that 47% of people are going to vote for OBAMA no matter what. That 47% is a combination of those completely dependent on the government dole, their enablers, and those who indirectly make their good living off big government, or those who have a vested interest in keeping large segment of voting blocks dependent on them. Hence, Romney's message has to be directed to those who few independents whose vote could go either direction to have a chance in this election. my personal feeling is that mathematically it is impossible for him to overcome such a huge disadvantage...that he'll need to run a perfect campaign( which he's not)...and have a lot of luck ( combination of events). Obama's incompetency in foreign policy and the economy go Romney's favor...and the possible coverup in Libya and continued Anti-American demonstrations could really cause some damage. Romney/Ryan will need to score in the debates.
• BoatShoes

  HitsRus;1282907 wrote:Who cares what the polls say...they are constantly changing and blow with the political winds. Arguing about polls is 'batshit crazy".
  
  I think BHO wins because the tipping point has been reached. While what Romney said might not have been accurate, the jist of what he meant is that 47% of people are going to vote for OBAMA no matter what. That 47% is a combination of those completely dependent on the government dole, their enablers, and those who indirectly make their good living off big government, or those who have a vested interest in keeping large segment of voting blocks dependent on them. Hence, Romney's message has to be directed to those who few independents whose vote could go either direction to have a chance in this election. my personal feeling is that mathematically it is impossible for him to overcome such a huge disadvantage...that he'll need to run a perfect campaign( which he's not)...and have a lot of luck ( combination of events). Obama's incompetency in foreign policy and the economy go Romney's favor...and the possible coverup in Libya and continued Anti-American demonstrations could really cause some damage. Romney/Ryan will need to score in the debates.

  LO. yes...tell us more about how you think romney was spot on with the massive underclass of moochers. LOL. Never mind again that the largest segment of these "dependent" people who were part of the 47% are middle to lower income whites or elderly folks....and both are more likely to pull the lever for the same people that HitsRuS is going to. Perhaps you've missed the threads where we've parsed out who is in the "47%" of people who don't pay federal income taxes and how it's in no way the same 47% that are going to vote Democrat
  
  Whatever makes you feel better about your boys lookin like they're goin down.
  
  Romney's huge disadvantage is that most Americans who get up and go to work every day don't by and large endorse the vision of the country he and Paul Ryan propose, he's somehow managed to shit all of his presupposed competence down his leg, and his only core beliefs, apparently, are that he should be president and half the country can't possibly be convinced to take personal responsibility for their lives.
• pmoney25

  

  The sad thing is that Obama has convinced people he actually cares about the middle class when he is nothing but another corporatist puppet. He just hides it better than Romney does. It is a shame that Obama is probably going to win. I thought that the Republicans could have nominated anyone and would have won this election easily.
  
  Also, one thing I would like to point out. Everyone is gunning for the independent vote and the politicians like to pretend that these independents are a bunch of super informed political junkies who take in information from all sides to try and form an opinion. Most independents are just people who really just don't give a crap about whats going on and usually end up voting for the guy who they think is cooler and who is the presumed winner.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  In 2004 the Democrats were complaining the polls were skewed and they oversampled Republicans. Bush won.
  in 2012 the Republicans are complaining the polls are skewed and are oversampling Democrats. Obama will win.
• IggyPride00

  

  Obama's debate prep partner right now is John Kerry.
  
  What better way is there to prepare for a stiff, flip-flopping, elitist, out of touch Massachusetts liberal than to practice with the poster child of stiff, flip-flopping, elitist, out of touch Massachusetts liberals.
  
  It is sad this country is left with a choice of BHO or the Republican version of John Kerry.
• believer

  

  pmoney25;1282981 wrote:Most independents are just people who really just don't give a crap about whats going on and usually end up voting for the guy who they think is cooler and who is the presumed winner.

  
• bases_loaded

  

  Ty Webb;1282748 wrote:Do you honestly buy into this?

  You honestly believe a guy that has made things worse in his 4 year term is up in every poll?
• believer

  

  bases_loaded;1283669 wrote:You honestly believe a guy that has made things worse in his 4 year term is up in every poll?

  Yes I honestly believe he does.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  bases_loaded;1283669 wrote:You honestly believe a guy that has made things worse in his 4 year term is up in every poll?

  Why not? it happened in 2004.
• believer

  

  
• HitsRus

  

  yes...tell us more about how you think romney was spot on with the massive underclass of moochers.

  Can't you read? I said it was accurate that 47% were going to vote democratic no matter what, and it's true that Romney's message needs to be focused on getting out the people who would support him and to swaying the independents/undecided vote his direction.
  
  How long did you spend "parsing out" that his off the cuff remarks made to a group of supporters were not accurate?....and wait! you foubnd that a lot of people on the dole were likely to support Romney?
  Gee whiz....maybe they want a job, not a handout. I know it's hard to run on BHO's record.
• Zombaypirate

  Obama will win fairly easily. Romney has proven to be a political idiot.
• Belly35

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1283702 wrote:Why not? it happened in 2004.

  Bro you have a wife and a kid someday ..... What life do you want for your kid’s future? This is not about you anymore get it straight it about this country, the freedom we enjoy and the prosperity we have and the liberties as Americans …. That what your kid will want ….
  
  What you done see now is that additional burden on your kid created by this administration agenda, that extra 300.00 gone from your pay check that Obamacare will cost you for your hard work and dedication. So what do you want to do is work for Timken achieve and pay the Government more to support who? It will not be your family, your kid or your wife it will be some who someday will label you as a rich white mofo and that is all they know because those will be the greedy individuals and you and your family will be expected to give your share and more to the same guy who will steal your car, rape your wife, fuck up your kid and take from you in the night. …. poor will never respect the working, educated and properous members of society they think you cheated them out of their future.
• isadore

  sir medication may be able to help.
• I Wear Pants

  sleeper;1280993 wrote:I think Gary Johnson wins- big.

  If only.