Return of the War Party?--Pat Buchanan

• isadore

  I Wear Pants;983254 wrote:Lol.
  
  "I'm a insane nationalist and if you say anything bad about our country then you're unamerican and are sympathizing with terrorist scum" - isadore/Hitler if you exchange "unamerican" for unpure/ungerman.

  Gosh a ruddies. Somebody's feeling have gotten hurt. Using such a personal attack on me. So you dont have to be so sensitive. I am sure there is an example or two that could be found that would show that my earlier comment did not apply to you. If we went through all these threads I could find one thing you said positive about America in the world or some criticism you made about Al Queada or the Taliban. You may have criticized their bomb making abilities or the personal hygiene. Or said john walker lindh was not such a sweet guy when he got an CIA agent killed. If we looked really hard we could find one and show beyond a shadow of a doubt that that comment did not apply to you. Sometime you and I will have to get together and share.
• I Wear Pants

  "Gosh a ruddies"
  Lol, Sarah Palin is that you?
  
  I put 2,000 vCash that isadore might be an alt for whoever is responsible for sleeper.
• isadore

  what is really disgusting is to see a person who praises America's enemies use the wounded warrior cover while you give sympathy to the people who wound and kill our servicepeople.
• I Wear Pants

  isadore;983335 wrote:what is really disgusting is to see a person who praises America's enemies use the wounded warrior cover while you give sympathy to the people who wound and kill our servicepeople.

  Lol, A+ would read again.
  
  Almost as disgusting as seeing someone who supports getting thousands of our troops injured and killed in wars that are not good for our country eh?
• isadore

  definitely looking forward to sharing with you, take it easy big guy.
• isadore

  I Wear Pants;983336 wrote:Lol, A+ would read again.
  
  Almost as disgusting as seeing someone who supports getting thousands of our troops injured and killed in wars that are not good for our country eh?

  as you tell them what great guys the taliban bomber who just crippled them and killed their best friend are. at least you will always be there to give aid and comfort to those killers.
• I Wear Pants

  "I don't think we should be in the wars because I think they aren't good for the country in any capacity including foreign relations and economics but I completely support our armed forces as they are not the ones responsible for deciding where we engage and how and are the best we have to offer." - Me, the unamerican
  
  "I want to send our men and women at arms into endless wars to get maimed" -isadore the patriot
• isadore

  I Wear Pants;983354 wrote:"I don't think we should be in the wars because I think they aren't good for the country in any capacity including foreign relations and economics but I completely support our armed forces as they are not the ones responsible for deciding where we engage and how and are the best we have to offer." - Me, the unamerican
  
  "I want to send our men and women at arms into endless wars to get maimed" -isadore the patriot

  Of course now you make up comments to justify yourself, but these are true statements of your beliefs about service people, terrorist and john walker lindh who joined Taliban and aided in the killing of a CIA agent made on these Ohio Chatter threads.
  On terrorists

  I wear pants wrote: So we have the right to just run roughshod over anyone and they are automatically the bad guys for using gorilla/brutal tactics that are their only real way to fight.

  And would make these snide comments about the people putting their lives on the line for
  On the troops

  I wear Pants wrote:Almost anyone can do it. I go sign up right now and I have a job. Don't know of any other profession or business that works like that.

  from the Are our Troops overpaid thread.
  On John Walker Lindh:
  This makes me sad and embarrased. I'll elaborate more on my feelings if/when people read it. Should take about 20 minutes or so. It's about an American who was pseudo accused of terrorism, then all the charges were dropped, then he got 20 years in prison for it. I think we're better than that.
  Thread: America's 'detainee 001'
  
  07.15.2011 12:47 AM
  　
  
• I Wear Pants

  And? We've been over this before. You think anyone who says anything bad about this country is a terrorist. The universe disagrees.
• isadore

  I think anyone who denigrates our service people or who endorses the acts of the killers of those servicepeople is providing comfort to our enemies.
• dwccrew

  

  isadore;983210 wrote:Consistency must count for something in this world, even if it is the consistency of hatred for America. The idea that our nation is an evil force in this world continues. We find Americans with a kind word for Al Queda and the Taliban, repeated justification for the killers of our countrymen. These Americans worry over the rights of Osama bin Laden, Ala Waki and John Walker Lindh. Again and Again they refuse to see our nation's motives as good while ignoring the religious fanaticism that drives our enemies.

  
  Amen! Anyone who disagrees with America is evil, including Americans that disagree. These Americans don't represent the America I want to live in. We must show these middle eastern countries how great democracy is and make them love us. The best way to do that is by bombing them and putting ruthless dictators into power. And if they hate us because of it, we will just have to put troops in their land to show them how good we are....maybe bomb them a little more. Eventually they will love us and see the error in their ways, because after all, we are the United States. We know best for others and we have their best interests at heart.
• I Wear Pants

  Watch it there you terrorists scum.
  Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express
• Footwedge

  isadore;983485 wrote:I think anyone who denigrates our service people or who endorses the acts of the killers of those servicepeople is providing comfort to our enemies.

  Go suit up and go. Yot kill 1000 Muslims, you will die an American hero. Good luck getting into heaven though. God doesn't root for just the home team.
• isadore

  People who portray America as evil and imperialist feed our enemies providing them with a defense for their terrorist acts.
  When Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, Muslim-American, killed Pvt William Long at a recruiter center then he mouthed the argument found on this site to justify his actions. We heard much the same from Major Nidal Malik Hasan,, Muslim American, with his call for 'maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor' Then killed 13 Americans and wounded 29 others. To Faisal Shahzad, Muslim American, a repeat of the same hatred, then the attempt to blow up hundreds in Time Square.
  Anwar al-Awlaki, Muslim American, accomplice in the deaths of untold Americans, his diatribes are pretty much direct quotes from some on the site.
• I Wear Pants

  Ah yes the "a crazy person/asshole said it so it cannot at all be true argument". So if those same people did those things while saying "America is great long live America!" what would you say?
  
  And are you suggesting we not voice our disapproval with the foreign policy choices of our country?
• dwccrew

  

  isadore;984325 wrote:People who portray America as evil and imperialist feed our enemies providing them with a defense for their terrorist acts.
  When Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, Muslim-American, killed Pvt William Long at a recruiter center then he mouthed the argument found on this site to justify his actions. We heard much the same from Major Nidal Malik Hasan,, Muslim American, with his call for 'maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor' Then killed 13 Americans and wounded 29 others. To Faisal Shahzad, Muslim American, a repeat of the same hatred, then the attempt to blow up hundreds in Time Square.
  Anwar al-Awlaki, Muslim American, accomplice in the deaths of untold Americans, his diatribes are pretty much direct quotes from some on the site.

  I think you are right. All these terrorists were influenced by quotes on Ohio Chatter. I didn't know that they frequented this site for their rhetoric. It should probably be shut down now. More bombs! That'll show them that we are the nice guy there to help them and are actually trying to show them how to be free, even though they hate us because of our freedoms.
• isadore

  I Wear Pants;984339 wrote:Ah yes the "a crazy person/**** said it so it cannot at all be true argument". So if those same people did those things while saying "America is great long live America!" what would you say?
  
  And are you suggesting we not voice our disapproval with the foreign policy choices of our country?

  Gosh a ruddies. (just picture Sarah Palin as saying this if it helps assuage your guilt at complicity)
  You know I have never heard a terrorist when they kill Americans say anything like “America is great, long live America.” If you have some examples please give them to me. Even a Non Muslim-American terrorist Tim McVeigh expressed criticisms very similar to yours.
  It is quite possible to express criticism of the war in Iraq for example without claiming that Americans are evil imperialist or that our enemies are justified in killing American service people and civilians. Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki criticizes rhe war plan for not understanding what commitment of troops and material would be needed in a post war Iraq. Marine Corps General and head of Central Command Joseph Hoar thought the war would be costly and possibly unnecessary as he told a Senate Committee. As did his successor Marine Corps General Anthony Zinni who argued deposing Sadaam was a low priority. Several other general officers criticized the action. What the did not do was : claim the US is an evil imperialist state and that our enemies are heroes.
• I Wear Pants

  You've just made things up, no one on here has ever called the people that killed our servicemen heroes. Ever. Even in your delusional world of "they said we might be providing motivation for insurgents by bombing the hell out of a bunch of countries so therefore they support terrorism!" that's a massive stretch.
  
  And lets see, we've gone into countries and taken them over by force and are currently trying to mold their governments and societies to be more like ours while at the same time our corporations are attempting to profit from their resources. Yup, seems like imperialism to me.
• isadore

  dwccrew;984377 wrote:I think you are right. All these terrorists were influenced by quotes on Ohio Chatter. I didn't know that they frequented this site for their rhetoric. It should probably be shut down now. More bombs! That'll show them that we are the nice guy there to help them and are actually trying to show them how to be free, even though they hate us because of our freedoms.

  I sure would not argue about the shutdown. But what you get on here is part of that flood of sympathy for the killers. It serves as part of a momentum to these acts. From Bill Maher claiming the 9/11 attackers were heroes, Michael Moore calling them freedom fighters, Noam Chomsky providing a rational for their actions, what you find here just contributes to that ringing justification for killing Americans be they service people or civilians, all agents of American imperialism, all according to Ward Churchill "little Eichmans."
• dwccrew

  

  isadore;984410 wrote:I sure would not argue about the shutdown. But what you get on here is part of that flood of sympathy for the killers. It serves as part of a momentum to these acts. From Bill Maher claiming the 9/11 attackers were heroes, Michael Moore calling them freedom fighters, Noam Chomsky providing a rational for their actions, what you find here just contributes to that ringing justification for killing Americans be they service people or civilians, all agents of American imperialism, all according to Ward Churchill "little Eichmans."

  So more bombs?
• isadore

  I Wear Pants;984407 wrote:You've just made things up, no one on here has ever called the people that killed our servicemen heroes. Ever. Even in your delusional world of "they said we might be providing motivation for insurgents by bombing the hell out of a bunch of countries so therefore they support terrorism!" that's a massive stretch.
  
  And lets see, we've gone into countries and taken them over by force and are currently trying to mold their governments and societies to be more like ours while at the same time our corporations are attempting to profit from their resources. Yup, seems like imperialism to me.

  You can not step away from your hatred for this country. Your sorry we went into Afghanistan, overthrew a regime that provided a base for Al queda. Sorry if we went in and stopped them from oppressing women and minorities, sorry if we stopped them from protecting Osama bin laden.
  Here is where your sympathies lay
  "So we have the right to just run roughshod over anyone and they are automatically the bad guys for using gorilla/brutal tactics that are their only real way to fight."
  with the scum that kills Americans. They should all rot in Hell. Despite what you say they are the bad guys. Not who you label as evil the American troops who fight their terrorism and oppression.
• dwccrew

  

  I think the only way to get someone to understand your opinion or view is to kill them. So we should probably just keep killing people in the middle east until they finally see it our way and accept our way of living. It's the only rational thing to do. Occupy their lands before they occupy ours.
• isadore

  dwccrew;984421 wrote:So more bombs?

  I am sorry you disapprove of the use of drones to kill our enemies. I hope they die and rot in hell.
• dwccrew

  

  isadore;984427 wrote:I am sorry you disapprove of the use of drones to kill our enemies. I hope they die and rot in hell.

  I didn't say I disapprove, I was asking you if we should bomb some more? I think we should. It's the only way to get them to accept democracy.
• isadore

  dwccrew;984425 wrote:I think the only way to get someone to understand your opinion or view is to kill them. So we should probably just keep killing people in the middle east until they finally see it our way and accept our way of living. It's the only rational thing to do. Occupy their lands before they occupy ours.

  I am sorry that you have this great sympathy for people who wish to kill Americans. Its a free country, you can say what you want, even sympathy for the devils who wish to kill us.