Republican candidates for 2012

• bigdaddy2003

  

  Are there really liberals who think a conservative/Republican would force people to go to church? I'm not directing that at you IWP. I heard a couple of people talking today at Chipotle about being worried that Santorum would make everybody go to church. I thought it was comical. I'm more concerned about being told my kid can't have a goldfish or being told what I can eat or what to feed my kids by the government but to each their own.
  
  Oh and I think stlouiedipalma is under playing the power of the mainstream media. There are too many people in this country who watch certain news programs and run with whatever they say or follow a family member's political philosophy without doing their own research. If these people hear about all of the "saintly" work the Democrats are doing and how the Republicans are constantly doing things that hurt the country or how they don't care about certain groups of people of course that is going to present a problem.
  
• I Wear Pants

  bigdaddy2003;1092244 wrote:Are there really liberals who think a conservative/Republican would force people to go to church? I'm not directing that at you IWP. I heard a couple of people talking today at Chipotle about being worried that Santorum would make everybody go to church. I thought it was comical. I'm more concerned about being told my kid can't have a goldfish or being told what I can eat or what to feed my kids by the government but to each their own.
  
  Oh and I think stlouiedipalma is under playing the power of the mainstream media. There are too many people in this country who watch certain news programs and run with whatever they say or follow a family member's political philosophy without doing their own research. If these people hear about all of the "saintly" work the Democrats are doing and how the Republicans are constantly doing things that hurt the country or how they don't care about certain groups of people of course that is going to present a problem.

  I haven't heard anyone say that (though obviously they exist because you witnessed it). That's a bit silly.
  
  My fear is that he will legislate based upon his religious beliefs even when it means harming other people which he's indicated he will do. People who justify policy with religion scare me.
• jhay78

  

  I Wear Pants;1092255 wrote:People who justify policy with religion scare me.

  What about communists/marxists/socialists who justify policy with atheism?
• majorspark

  

  I Wear Pants;1092255 wrote:My fear is that he will legislate based upon his religious beliefs even when it means harming other people which he's indicated he will do.

  
  
  Santorum is running for president not congress. He can't legislate anything.
  

  I Wear Pants;1092255 wrote:People who justify policy with religion scare me.

  Did it scare you when Obama did it a few weeks ago?
• Cleveland Buck

  

  majorspark;1092406 wrote:Santorum is running for president not congress. He can't legislate anything.

  Have you been out of contact for the last 100 years? There are no rules restraining the power of the executive branch anymore. Or the entire federal government for that matter.
• majorspark

  

  Cleveland Buck;1092423 wrote:Have you been out of contact for the last 100 years? There are no rules restraining the power of the executive branch anymore. Or the entire federal government for that matter.

  Well I am not too worried Santorum is going to issue an executive order banning anal sex or contraceptives. I'm more worried about other shit he would pull. One branch of the federal government is as powerful as the other two branches let it become. The federal government is as powerful as the people have allowed it to become. Something tells me if Santorum were in the white house Harry Reid would suddenly start caring a little more about the balance of power between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.
• stlouiedipalma

  The days of a President directing Congress to do his bidding are long gone. Partisan politics in both chambers and the threat of filibusters have made it almost impossible for a President to push through much of anything. We have seen quite a bit of this in the past 19 years. It began with judicial appointments and now it extends to nearly every proposal made on the Hill. You need a dominant majority in the House and a minimum of 60 votes in the Senate if you want to get things done your way. No matter who wins the Presidency this fall I fear that this trend will continue.
• ts1227

  

  lol (semi-NSFW)
  
  http://www.happyplace.com/14401/a-rick-santorum-campaign-poster-composed-entirely-of-gay-porn-nsfw
• gut

  stlouiedipalma;1092476 wrote: No matter who wins the Presidency this fall I fear that this trend will continue.

  That's not necessarily a bad thing. But you do hit on a key point that the national attention needs to focus much more on the yahoos running amok in Congress. Problem is, not a damn thing I can do about Pelosi or Reid.
• sjmvsfscs08

  stlouiedipalma;1092476 wrote:The days of a President directing Congress to do his bidding are long gone. Partisan politics in both chambers and the threat of filibusters have made it almost impossible for a President to push through much of anything.

  
• believer

  

  I Wear Pants;1092255 wrote:People who justify policy with religion scare me.

  
  Policies made by people who trample on religious freedoms scare me.
• sjmvsfscs08

  Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are wiping the floor with Rick Santorum. This is so much fun to watch.
• I Wear Pants

  believer;1092786 wrote:Policies made by people who trample on religious freedoms scare me.

  How have religious freedoms in the US been "trampled"?
  
  Also, I laughed:
  
• majorspark

  

  sjmvsfscs08;1093216 wrote:Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are wiping the floor with Rick Santorum. This is so much fun to watch.

  Yes they did. They did it on his voting record in the Sentate. He can't defend it. Not some wild ass notion Rick wants to control everyones prick. He had to admit several times he was wrong or he was playing politics. Which I have been saying all along will make conservatives think twice. Will he play politics again? Why wasn't he consistent? Now he will do the right thing?
• pmoney25

  

  sjmvsfscs08;1093216 wrote:Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are wiping the floor with Rick Santorum. This is so much fun to watch.

  
  I agree, Santorum got destroyed especially on his voting record. Not a shock because he is a typical politician and a Bush reincarnate
• BGFalcons82

  

  I think Dr. Paul will finally admit that Iran is working on acquiring a nuclear weapon when his new friend, Achmedinutjob sends him a postcard picture of it. What was the discussion about Iran only having one nuke as compared to the Soviets having 30,000? It only takes one nuke to wipeout half of the population of Israel if targetted correctly. Isn't that enough devastation to cause anyone to take one nuke seriously?
• stlouiedipalma

  Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that three of those people in the debate tonight would secretly like to nuke Tehran. They probably figure that "who would dare do anything to us if we turned Iran into glass?" It's my opinion that they feel that the only way to besure they don't develop a nuke is to show them how several hundred of them work, up close and personal.
• I Wear Pants

  BGFalcons82;1093290 wrote:I think Dr. Paul will finally admit that Iran is working on acquiring a nuclear weapon when his new friend, Achmedinutjob sends him a postcard picture of it. What was the discussion about Iran only having one nuke as compared to the Soviets having 30,000? It only takes one nuke to wipeout half of the population of Israel if targetted correctly. Isn't that enough devastation to cause anyone to take one nuke seriously?

  Why would Iran nuke Israel?
• Cleveland Buck

  

  BGFalcons82;1093290 wrote:I think Dr. Paul will finally admit that Iran is working on acquiring a nuclear weapon when his new friend, Achmedinutjob sends him a postcard picture of it. What was the discussion about Iran only having one nuke as compared to the Soviets having 30,000? It only takes one nuke to wipeout half of the population of Israel if targetted correctly. Isn't that enough devastation to cause anyone to take one nuke seriously?

  What sense would it make for Muslims to nuke Israel and leave their holy sites in Israel uninhabitable for thousands of years? Do you warmongers even think about these things?
• HitsRus

  

  Yeah....I want to know too. While you are at it.... why do suicide bombers blow themselves up? don't they know they are going to die?
  
  So many questions for the American mind.
• IggyPride00

  

  I personally think a large part of Iran's wanting the bomb is self preservation.
  
  They saw what happened to Saddam, and probably figure at some point regime change will come to them.
  
  They see NK and Pakistan though able to do what they please without fear of ever being attacked because they have the bomb.
  
  Having the bomb buy's corrupt regimes plenty of peace of mind knowing they won't ever be invaded or a candiate for regime change. I think it is this far more than a desire to blow up Israel (and destroy themselves in the process) that drives them to get the bomb.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  HitsRus;1093342 wrote:Yeah....I want to know too. While you are at it.... why do suicide bombers blow themselves up? don't they know they are going to die?
  
  So many questions for the American mind.

  You do realize the Muslims (or at least the militant ones) hate Israel because they control some of their most holy places, right? So they would destroy those places just to kill Israelis?
• Cleveland Buck

  

  IggyPride00;1093347 wrote:I personally think a large part of Iran's wanting the bomb is self preservation.

  That is the whole reason for it. No Muslim would leave Jerusalem radioactive for thousands of years.
• tk421

  

  Cleveland Buck;1093350 wrote:That is the whole reason for it. No Muslim would leave Jerusalem radioactive for thousands of years.

  not to mention the whole country turning to glass thing if they used the bomb.
• majorspark

  

  IggyPride00;1093347 wrote:I personally think a large part of Iran's wanting the bomb is self preservation.

  I agree. Its worked great for the North Koreans. They can't feed their own people so they extort from the South, Japan, and US. Now they can even sink ships and shell islands with absolutely no one lifting a finger.
  
  The thing is in this case their are at least four countries that at this point depending on leadership will go to war in one way or another to prevent Iran from having that leverage.