Osama Bin Laden Dead *OFFICIAL*

• Footwedge

  Barry got this one right. No reason to splatter his pic across the internet. Barry took the high road on this one.
• Bigred1995

  

  Pakistan's Warning-------> America's Response
• WebFire

  Bigred1995;761330 wrote:Pakistan's Warning-------> America's Response

  While international concerns are centered on suspicions that elements of the security forces sheltered bin Laden, most Pakistanis seem more upset that uninvited American soldiers flew into the country, landed on the ground and launched an attack on a house — and that the army was unaware and unable to stop them. That it happened in an army town, next door to a military academy and close to the capital has added to the embarrassment.

  Not much of an army, eh?
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Bigred1995;761330 wrote:Pakistan's Warning-------> America's Response

  
  This caught my eye...
  

  Drone attacks are extremely unpopular in Pakistan

• WebFire

  Fuck Pakistan. Blow the whole damn place off the map.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  WebFire;761489 wrote:Fuck Pakistan. Blow the whole damn place off the map.

  Sure, let's destroy a country with over 100 nuclear weapons and vast infrastructure and knowledge base of nuclear weapons experts that we don't know anything about. Nothing bad can happen, it's not like al Qaeda is next door...Oh wait......
• WebFire

  ptown_trojans_1;761625 wrote:Sure, let's destroy a country with over 100 nuclear weapons and vast infrastructure and knowledge base of nuclear weapons experts that we don't know anything about. Nothing bad can happen, it's not like al Qaeda is next door...Oh wait......

  
  It was tongue-in-cheek.
• I Wear Pants

  CenterBHSFan;761417 wrote:This caught my eye...

  I wonder if they're unpopular because it's a foreign country that pretends to be friendly and doesn't have permission that's sending fricking flying robot death machines into their country. I imagine that'd be pretty unpopular here too.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Honestly, I haven't figured out the Parkistani government -- or maybe I have.
  
  They supposedly are our allies against terrorists, but they obviously shielded Bin Laden all these years.
  
  They sometimes complain about drone strikes, but other times seem to be happy with who is killed.
  
  I'm thinking there must be a lot of dissension within the government itself, and some believe the terrorists are more of a threat to them than the US is, while others dislike the US more than the terrorists, even though the terrorists would take the country down a very dark path.
  
  We complain about the split in our own government, but the one in Pakistan seems worse, and the consequences obviously more deadly.
• Ty Webb

  

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovmkjvBP2HU&feature=related
  
  Video released by the Pentagon of Bin Laden watching himself on TV inside his compound.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Writerbuckeye;762449 wrote:Honestly, I haven't figured out the Parkistani government -- or maybe I have.
  
  They supposedly are our allies against terrorists, but they obviously shielded Bin Laden all these years.
  
  They sometimes complain about drone strikes, but other times seem to be happy with who is killed.
  
  I'm thinking there must be a lot of dissension within the government itself, and some believe the terrorists are more of a threat to them than the US is, while others dislike the US more than the terrorists, even though the terrorists would take the country down a very dark path.
  
  We complain about the split in our own government, but the one in Pakistan seems worse, and the consequences obviously more deadly.

  Pakistan is hard to figure out. They need us in order to maintain stability with India, but support for the U.S. is extremely unpopular. Also, adding to that is this culture of crazy conspiracy theories that just spread like widlfire there. There are so many crazy theories about the U.S., 9/11 and Afghanistan that are taken as fact in Pakistan. That does not help. The generals and ISI operate in that environment.
  It is one of the most frustrating relationships, but one the U.S. needs to maintain.
  The most important thing right now is to reset the relationship. How to do that is being debated inside the government as we speak.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Ty Webb;762454 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovmkjvBP2HU&feature=related
  
  Video released by the Pentagon of Bin Laden watching himself on TV inside his compound.

  
  The video of him watching himself on tv is so odd, yet amusing. There is the leader of al Qaeda, in a chair, with an old blanket, grey beard, switching through a small, old tv to watch himself.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  The President in on 60 Minutes right now discussing everything related to the killing.
  I already like the responses.
• majorspark

  

  I Wear Pants;761221 wrote:No they shouldn't have because those intances, both of them were of clear moral wrongdoing on our part. Are we supposed to be the good guys or not?

  Moral wrongdoings makes pics more inflammatory. We are good guys because we try and punish those in our military or government that have moral failures. Not try to cover it up or celebrate them as heroes.
  

  I Wear Pants;761221 wrote:And where the fuck did I mention Iraq? He was obviously an organizing force and motivational figure for Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan though. But simply because he was so doesn't in itself legitimize our invasion.

  Iraq and Afghanistan are the two places where our soldiers would face this supposed backlash. Your talking about him being an inspirational and operational leader. All I am saying is Bin Laden has little to do with those opposing us in those two nations motivation. I'll bet the majority of them are glad the bastard is dead.
• majorspark

  

  ptown_trojans_1;762512 wrote:The video of him watching himself on tv is so odd, yet amusing. There is the leader of al Qaeda, in a chair, with an old blanket, grey beard, switching through a small, old tv to watch himself.

  Don't forget the wool cap. Tells me they could not heat the place very well. He was basically imprisoned in that shack for 5-6yrs. LOL at the American press for calling this a mansion.
• majorspark

  

  ptown_trojans_1;761049 wrote:What was left was the tail rotor, according to all sources, as the SEALS used incendiary grenades to destroy most, if not all the wreckage. Then apparently, the wreckage was picked up by the U.S. At least that is what I've read.

  Apparently there was still a lot to be gleaned from the wreckage. According to the report bits and pieces of its skin are all over the place. Angles can be observed and some sort of maybe inter woven fabric mesh. Apparently this thing sound more like a lawnmower or a distant hum when it is nearby. The Chinese are very interested in getting a peek. The Pakistanis can bitch all they want about violations of sovereignty. They are very happy we violated their sovereignty and dropped this little birdie in their hands.
  
  It really is a shame that the chopper went down. According to the ABC news report it clipped its tail rotor on the compound wall. Previous mechanical failure could have been the cause of it doing so.
  
  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-raid-pakistan-hints-china-peak/story?id=13570573
• LJ

  

  https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html
  

  Statement from the family of Sheikh Osama bin Laden
  
  I Omar Ossama Binladin and my brothers the lawful children and heirs of the Ossama Binladin (OBL) have noted wide coverage of the news of the death of our father, but we are not convinced on the available evidence in the absence of dead body, photographs, and video evidence that our natural father is dead. Therefore, with this press statement, we seek such conclusive evidence to believe the stories published in relation to 2 May 2011 operation Geronimo as declared by the President of United States Barrack Hussein Obama in his speech that he authorized the said operation and killing of OBL and later confirmed his death.
  
  If OBL has been killed in that operation as President of United States has claimed then we are just in questioning as per media reports that why an unarmed man was not arrested and tried in a court of law so that truth is revealed to the people of the world. If he has been summarily executed then, we question the propriety of such assassination where not only international law has been blatantly violated but USA has set a very different example whereby right to have a fair trial, and presumption of innocence until proven guilty by a court of law has been sacrificed on which western society is built and is standing when a trial of OBL was possible for any wrongdoing as that of Iraqi President Sadam Hussein and Serbian President Slobodan Miloševic'. We maintain that arbitrary killing is not a solution to political problems and crime's adjudication as Justice must be seen to be done.
  
  It is also unworthy of the special forces to shoot unarmed female family members of Binladen killing a female and that of one of his son.
  
  Most importantly, when it is a common knowledge that OBL's family is residing at one place outside KSA, why they were not contacted to receive his dead body. His sudden and un witnessed burial at sea has deprived the family of performing religious rights of a Muslim man.
  
  Finally, now that the operation is concluded we wish the Government of Pakistan to release and hand over all minors of the family and all the family members are reunited at one place and are repatriated to their country of origin, especially female members of the family to avoid further oppression and we seek international support to that effect.
  
  Without agreeing to the ways of OBL as to how he professed, believed and operated, We Omar Ossama Binladin, and my brothers, the lawful children of the Ossama Binladin (OBL) herewith demand an inquiry under UNO to reach to the accuracy of the facts as stated by United States into the fundamental question as to why our father was not arrested and tried but summarily executed without a court of law. We are putting these questions to the United Nations, OIC, President of United States that a necessary evidence is presented to the family in private and or public to make us believe what they claim, and all the remaining family members are repatriated and united after necessary initial investigation.
  
  In making this statement, we want to remind the world that Omar Ossam Binladin, the fourth-born son of our father, always disagreed with our father regarding any violence and always sent messages to our father, that he must change his ways and that no civilians should be attacked under any circumstances. Despite the difficulty of publicly disagreeing with our father, he never hesitated to condemn any violent attacks made by anyone, and expressed sorrow for the victims of any and all attacks. As he condemned our father, we now condemn the president of the United States for ordering the execution of unarmed men and women.
  
  Failure to answer these questions will force us to go to International forum for justice such as International Criminal Court and International Court of Justice and UN must take notice of the violation of international law and assist us to have answers for which we are lawful in seeking them. A panel of eminent British and international lawyers is being constituted and a necessary action may be taken if no answers are furnished within 30 days of this statement.

• bigkahuna

  LJ;764746 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html

  I wonder if anything will actually come from this...
• Ty Webb

  

  bigkahuna;764946 wrote:I wonder if anything will actually come from this...

  
  No....Why in the hell would the UN help the family of osama BIn Laden
• Glory Days

  

  On day 29 or so. If i was Obama, i would send that guy a satellite image of his house with a note at the bottom saying something like "Your brother didnt hear us coming, you wont either"
• bigkahuna

  Ty Webb;764965 wrote:No....Why in the hell would the UN help the family of osama BIn Laden

  
  I'm talking about the family actually trying to do something. One of OBL's sons is a higher ranking official in Al Qeada isn't he?
• bigkahuna

  Glory Days;765300 wrote:On day 29 or so. If i was Obama, i would send that guy a satellite image of his house with a note at the bottom saying something like "Your brother didnt hear us coming, you wont either"

  
  Maybe I read the above thing wrong, but I thought that was a response by some of sons, so wouldn't it be Your father...?
• Con_Alma

  LJ;764746 wrote:...Failure to answer these questions will force us to go to International forum for justice such as International Criminal Court and International Court of Justice and UN must take notice of the violation of international law and assist us to have answers for which we are lawful in seeking them. A panel of eminent British and international lawyers is being constituted and a necessary action may be taken if no answers are furnished within 30 days of this statement.

  Sounds like a threat. Get your lawyers and good luck to you. There's no need to wait 30 days.
• Glory Days

  

  bigkahuna;766320 wrote:Maybe I read the above thing wrong, but I thought that was a response by some of sons, so wouldn't it be Your father...?

  
  Correct sir, I am a dumbass.
• cruiser_96

  

  Glory Days;766788 wrote:Correct sir, I am a dumbass.

  
  Hey... That's my line!!!