Three New Polls show Kasich and Strickland in "dead heat"

• Ty Webb

  

  Thread Bomber;532396 wrote:The State would be in much better condition if Blackwell would have won......

  
  Yes....we would have been much better of with a man who's biggest claim to fame is he rigged the 2004 election for GWB
• BGFalcons82

  

  Ty Webb;532397 wrote:Yes....we would have been much better of with a man who's biggest claim to fame is he rigged the 2004 election for GWB

  
  Fail, Ty. But I'm not surprised, the Democratic Party can't answer the question either.
  
  This is exactly why Ted is toast. You can't run an entire campaign enumerating the supposed evils of your opponent and not deal with reality. At some point, you have to say what you are for, what you will do, why people should pull your lever. Attack ads are fine and dandy, but if that's all you've got, then that's all you've got. Adios, Ted. Look up John Gilligan in your spare time...you'll see the resemblance.
• Ty Webb

  

  Keep thinking that BG.....
  
  What are you going to do if Teddy does pull this out?
• BGFalcons82

  

  ^^^ You have nothing to support your candidate. Look up Gilligan yet?
  
  If Ted pulls this out, we'll have 4 more years of the crap we've had. How's that for progress, eh? Woopie Ohio. Woo hoo. More jobs lost. More liberal spending policies. More taxes. What's not to like, eh?
• fish82

  

  Ty Webb;532405 wrote:Keep thinking that BG.....
  
  What are you going to do if Teddy does pull this out?

  Pull what out? His dick?
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Ty Webb;532395 wrote:He won't cut 49% of the state's revenue
  
  He won't force schools into more levies

  But, you can't take up the burden of the county schools by adding it to the state budget. Teddy (and Kasich for that matter) really need to tackle how to reform education that removes it from taxes, but does not add to the Ohio budget.
  

  fish82;532442 wrote:Pull what out? His dick?

  
  No, he is not LBJ.
• Ty Webb

  

  BGFalcons82;532437 wrote:^^^ You have nothing to support your candidate. Look up Gilligan yet?
  
  If Ted pulls this out, we'll have 4 more years of the crap we've had. How's that for progress, eh? Woopie Ohio. Woo hoo. More jobs lost. More liberal spending policies. More taxes. What's not to like, eh?

  
  It will be a hell of alot better than Kasich be in there
  
  You do realize taxes have been cut for everyone in the state in last 2 years right??
  
  You want this state to go to hell in a handbasket?? Let Kasich get elected and get rid of the state income tax...which will result in the loss of 49% of the states revenue. You think the state of the Ohio economy is bad now....let that happen
  
  You also know that he had ZERO and still has no problem with Wall Street banks who recieved bailout money not having to reveal their bonus amounts right?
  
  You also know that Kasich's plans would spike property taxes 10% right?
• BGFalcons82

  

  Ty...please stop. You can't write a sentence withoug putting Kasich in it. You can't articulate Strickland's positions because he has none. Just stop trying...you look foolish.
• Ty Webb

  

  BGFalcons82;532534 wrote:Ty...please stop. You can't write a sentence withoug putting Kasich in it. You can't articulate Strickland's positions because he has none. Just stop trying...you look foolish.

  
  Truth hurts huh BG
  
  I'm not the one looking foolish
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Ty Webb;532578 wrote:Truth hurts huh BG
  
  I'm not the one looking foolish

  
  Yes, you are. Please answer BG's question, if you can.
• majorspark

  

  Ty Webb;532517 wrote:You want this state to go to hell in a handbasket?? Let Kasich get elected and get rid of the state income tax...which will result in the loss of 49% of the states revenue. You think the state of the Ohio economy is bad now....let that happen

  Nine states have no general income tax. Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, Wyoming, New Hampshire and Tennessee. A couple of these nine states (New Hampshire and Tennessee) only tax income on interest and dividend income. None of these states are going to hell in a handbasket at least not any more that Ohio is. Some are in better shape financially.
• Bigdogg

  majorspark;532725 wrote:Nine states have no general income tax. Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, Wyoming, New Hampshire and Tennessee. A couple of these nine states (New Hampshire and Tennessee) only tax income on interest and dividend income. None of these states are going to hell in a handbasket at least not any more that Ohio is. Some are in better shape financially.

  
  Do you actually look up anything before you post? Other then Alaska which has tons of oil money and little population and infrastructure, lots of states are looking at very large deficits.
  
  http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=711
  
  Ohio has been hit hard by the loss of jobs in the auto industry and nobody could have prevented this and Kasich is certainty not going to change anything for the better. Ohio is slowing getting better and Strickland deserves four more years.
  
  http://obm.ohio.gov/document.aspx?ID=6205237d-62fa-4f71-ba62-51e3a7b1bada
• majorspark

  

  Bigdogg;533191 wrote:Do you actually look up anything before you post? Other then Alaska which has tons of oil money and little population and infrastructure, lots of states are looking at very large deficits.

  Do you actually read a post before you respond?
  
  Did I say anything about those states not running deficits? Did I say these states were in solid finacial shape? That would be no and no. The point is that just because they have no income tax they are not struggling financially because of how they choose to generate tax revenue. The idea that a state (Ty mentioned Ohio) generating their revenue without the use of an income tax will send them to hell in a handbasket is false.
  
  The problem with our state and others that have other forms of generating tax revenue is not just the form they use to generate their revenue, But primarily how they choose to spend that revenue.
• Bigdogg

  majorspark;533286 wrote:Do you actually read a post before you respond?
  
  Did I say anything about those states not running deficits? Did I say these states were in solid finacial shape? That would be no and no. The point is that just because they have no income tax they are not struggling financially because of how they choose to generate tax revenue. The idea that a state (Ty mentioned Ohio) generating their revenue without the use of an income tax will send them to hell in a handbasket is false.
  
  The problem with our state and others that have other forms of generating tax revenue is not just the form they use to generate their revenue, But primarily how they choose to spend that revenue.

  
  Then could you please explain to everyone how you think Ohio has went to "hell in a handbasket" under the current leadership as opposed to any other state. Nobody could have changed what happened to Ohio over the past two years. If we follow your logic should we throw out all the Republican Senators out since they control that branch in Ohio?
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Can we just have a table set up where we can list:
  
  Strickland: What has he done, what will he do?
  Kasich: Where has he been, what will he do?
• wkfan

  ernest_t_bass;533453 wrote:Can we just have a table set up where we can list:
  
  Strickland: What has he done, what will he do?
  Kasich: Where has he been, what will he do?

  Why not have a table of the same information for both candidates?
  
  Don't you think comparing apples to apples is better?? Or would that information not promote your agenda?
• Bigdogg

  wkfan;533547 wrote:Why not have a table of the same information for both candidates?
  
  Don't you think comparing apples to apples is better?? Or would that information not promote your agenda?

  
  Try this one:
  http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm
• ernest_t_bass

  

  wkfan;533547 wrote:Why not have a table of the same information for both candidates?
  
  Don't you think comparing apples to apples is better?? Or would that information not promote your agenda?

  
  My agenda? WTF are you talking about? I truly am curious. That's all I care about is "what will they do." The "what has he done/where has he been" comparison was only listed b/c only one has been in the Governor's office.
• Ty Webb

  

  CenterBHSFan;532647 wrote:Yes, you are. Please answer BG's question, if you can.

  
  1.He has improved our education sytem to where we are now the 5th ranked school system in the entire country
  
  2.He froze college tution rates for the last 3 years
  
  3.When he took office,Ohio's small business climate was 38th in the country. Now it is ranked in the top 15. Our taxes are also the lowest in the midwest
  
  4.•In Youngstown, V&M Star is building a new steel mill that is creating 400 construction jobs and 350 manufacturing jobs. It’s the largest industrial plant built in the Mahoning Valley since 1960, and it was made possible with help from Ted’s administration.
  •In Columbus, Coda Automotive announced plans to create 1,000 jobs manufacturing lithium-ion batteries after meeting with Ted and receiving a package of incentives from the State of Ohio.
  •In Toledo, Xunlight, which creates solar panels, created 280 jobs with support from the Ohio Air Quality Development Authority.
  •In Cleveland, Hugo Boss kept 300 employees after Ted stood with workers and fought for their jobs, keeping the jobs in Ohio and preventing them from being shipped overseas.
  •In Solon, Pressco Technology, a container-inspection system company, created 350 jobs with the help of a tax credit from Ted’s administration.
  •In Cincinnati, Proctor & Gamble created more than 300 jobs and retained more than 500 jobs with help from the Ohio Department of Development.
  •In Washington County, Thermo Fisher Scientific, which makes specialty cold storage, created nearly 120 jobs with assistance from the State of Ohio.
  •In Circleville, DuPont Solar Panel created 270 construction jobs and 70 manufacturing jobs. Incentives from the Department of Development helped make DuPont’s expansion possible.
  •In Akron, Goodyear created 125 jobs and retained nearly 3,000 jobs with support from a Clean Ohio Grant.
  •In Clayton, Caterpillar Logistics, distributor of Caterpillar heavy equipment, created 500 jobs with help from Ted and the Ohio Department of Development.
• Ty Webb

  

  Kasich Still Leads for Ohio Governor
  A new Quinnipiac poll in Ohio shows Gov. Ted Strickland (D) has cut John Kasich's (D) lead to just six points, 49% to 43%, percent among those likely to vote.
  
  Said pollster Peter Brown: "Strickland has made the race for governor competitive. He still trails by six points, and certainly has his work cut out for him. But Strickland has had the momentum in the last month. To be sure, one would much rather be in Kasich's shoes today, and the Republican remains the favorite to be Ohio's next governor. But if Strickland can continue his momentum he might surprise people."
• wkfan

  ernest_t_bass;533557 wrote:My agenda? WTF are you talking about? I truly am curious. That's all I care about is "what will they do." The "what has he done/where has he been" comparison was only listed b/c only one has been in the Governor's office.

  When you try to compare two people using different criteria...you have an agenda.
  
  You CAN compare Strickland and Kasich by asking both 'What has he done' regardless of Kasich not having been Governor. They both have track records as politticians...what have they supported or opposed? What campaign promises have they made....and how have they done against those promises?
  
  Pretty simple.
• QuakerOats

  Bigdogg;533443 wrote:Then could you please explain to everyone how you think Ohio has went to "hell in a handbasket" under the current leadership as opposed to any other state. Nobody could have changed what happened to Ohio over the past two years. If we follow your logic should we throw out all the Republican Senators out since they control that branch in Ohio?

  
  If we continue to operate in a reactionary mode (ala Teddy) then we will forever be managing from behind. The idea is to create a state and environment that is conducive to captial investment and business formation, and a state that is also nimble enough to be able to cut spending, in a hurry, when it has to ........ just like private enterprises do. When you have public sector unions controlling operations, then you have a problem. Teddy has done nothing to address these issues and thus he should be toast, and will be.
• QuakerOats

  Ty Webb;533570 wrote:Kasich Still Leads for Ohio Governor
  A new Quinnipiac poll in Ohio shows Gov. Ted Strickland (D) has cut John Kasich's (D) lead to just six points, 49% to 43%, percent among those likely to vote.
  "

  If you are the incumbent, and election day is 168 hours away, and you only have 43%, you are finished.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Ty Webb;533569 wrote:1.He has improved our education sytem to where we are now the 5th ranked school system in the entire country
  
  2.He froze college tution rates for the last 3 years
  
  3.When he took office,Ohio's small business climate was 38th in the country. Now it is ranked in the top 15. Our taxes are also the lowest in the midwest
  
  4.•In Youngstown, V&M Star is building a new steel mill that is creating 400 construction jobs and 350 manufacturing jobs. It’s the largest industrial plant built in the Mahoning Valley since 1960, and it was made possible with help from Ted’s administration.
  •In Columbus, Coda Automotive announced plans to create 1,000 jobs manufacturing lithium-ion batteries after meeting with Ted and receiving a package of incentives from the State of Ohio.
  •In Toledo, Xunlight, which creates solar panels, created 280 jobs with support from the Ohio Air Quality Development Authority.
  •In Cleveland, Hugo Boss kept 300 employees after Ted stood with workers and fought for their jobs, keeping the jobs in Ohio and preventing them from being shipped overseas.
  •In Solon, Pressco Technology, a container-inspection system company, created 350 jobs with the help of a tax credit from Ted’s administration.
  •In Cincinnati, Proctor & Gamble created more than 300 jobs and retained more than 500 jobs with help from the Ohio Department of Development.
  •In Washington County, Thermo Fisher Scientific, which makes specialty cold storage, created nearly 120 jobs with assistance from the State of Ohio.
  •In Circleville, DuPont Solar Panel created 270 construction jobs and 70 manufacturing jobs. Incentives from the Department of Development helped make DuPont’s expansion possible.
  •In Akron, Goodyear created 125 jobs and retained nearly 3,000 jobs with support from a Clean Ohio Grant.
  •In Clayton, Caterpillar Logistics, distributor of Caterpillar heavy equipment, created 500 jobs with help from Ted and the Ohio Department of Development.

  
  How many of those jobs are unionized?
• fish82

  

  Ty Webb;533570 wrote:Kasich Still Leads for Ohio Governor
  A new Quinnipiac poll in Ohio shows Gov. Ted Strickland (D) has cut John Kasich's (D) lead to just six points, 49% to 43%, percent among those likely to vote.
  
  Said pollster Peter Brown: "Strickland has made the race for governor competitive. He still trails by six points, and certainly has his work cut out for him. But Strickland has had the momentum in the last month. To be sure, one would much rather be in Kasich's shoes today, and the Republican remains the favorite to be Ohio's next governor. But if Strickland can continue his momentum he might surprise people."

  
  Six points you say?