IMO they’re going to have to lose a lot more games before they fire him. Like multiple bad seasons. 

posted by friendfromlowry

IMO they’re going to have to lose a lot more games before they fire him. Like multiple bad seasons. 

Indeed.

They could be 4-0 right now if they ran an actual NFL offense.  Not saying they're a good team, just that those were all winnable games with a modern offense.

AFCN is trash. 9-8 or 10-7 will likely win that division if a team can actually win 10 games.

posted by BR1986FB

AFCN is trash. 9-8 or 10-7 will likely win that division if a team can actually win 10 games.

Ehhhh, I think CIN and BAL are going to end-up being pretty good.

But PIT is definitely a bottom-5 team.  Hard to say with CLE, and I don't think Watson will turn them around this year.  But next year, watch out.

posted by gut

I think Tomlin sucks.  Every loss is a step in the right direction for the REAL rebuild.

I know you want him gone but what about today’s loss was Tomlin’s fault?

posted by Ironman92

I know you want him gone but what about today’s loss was Tomlin’s fault?

His defense?  His junior high offense?

posted by gut

His defense?  His junior high offense?

I don’t know. Defense forced some 3 and outs, 5 punts, 2 interceptions, 3 TD and a FG. Couldn’t get a stop in the 4th sucked.

Offensive calls were good I thought in the 2nd half. Those 2 interceptions were both off the TE’s hands and ended up in the Jets hands.

I’m not miles away on your Tomlin thoughts but I didn’t think today was his issue.

posted by Ironman92

I don’t know. Defense forced some 3 and outs, 5 punts, 2 interceptions, 3 TD and a FG. Couldn’t get a stop in the 4th sucked.

That was a bad team.  Starting a 2nd year QB who hadn't played in 2 months....

posted by gut

Ehhhh, I think CIN and BAL are going to end-up being pretty good.

But PIT is definitely a bottom-5 team.  Hard to say with CLE, and I don't think Watson will turn them around this year.  But next year, watch out.

Bengals are smoke & mirrors. They were last year. They were luckier than they were good when they hit the playoffs.

No idea what to think of Baltimore.

Pittsburgh's got their problems which a legit QB will likely fix.

Cleveland's biggest issue is coaching/teaching right now. This is the THIRD time in four games that a WR has been open by 25+ yards in crunch time. Stefanski's "riverboat gambler" mentality is leaving points on the field which are usually the difference in the game and Joe Woods' defensive schemes, like you guys rip Tomlin/Canada, have been an issue for 3 years.

posted by BR1986FB

Bengals are smoke & mirrors. They were last year. They were luckier than they were good when they hit the playoffs.

No idea what to think of Baltimore.

Pittsburgh's got their problems which a legit QB will likely fix.

Cleveland's biggest issue is coaching/teaching right now. This is the THIRD time in four games that a WR has been open by 25+ yards in crunch time. Stefanski's "riverboat gambler" mentality is leaving points on the field which are usually the difference in the game and Joe Woods' defensive schemes, like you guys rip Tomlin/Canada, have been an issue for 3 years.

You sure are bitter about the bengals. 

Joe Woods has gotta go. I’m anticipating a Netflix documentary about shaving points at this point.

posted by gut
That was a bad team.  Starting a 2nd year QB who hadn't played in 2 months....

Did it feel the same when Pickett was in there?

Lol

That clinch walk wouldn’t have made it 😂 https://t.co/tYvaWQSaa6

— DK Metcalf (@dkm14) October 2, 2022

posted by Ironman92

Did it feel the same when Pickett was in there?

He made some good throws, but a couple of bad throws resulting in picks.

They got a spark, and maybe called a few plays the defense wasn't expecting.  But I doubt the offense changes much.  I don't think anyone can make that offense look NFL-caliber.  The Tomlin/Canada combo would be outclassed by a lot of middle school coaches.

posted by friendfromlowry

You sure are bitter about the bengals. 

Not bitter about the Bengals. They're just not that good. Been hearing they were going to boat race the division because of that "new and improved O-Line." My response was that they didn't really improve it as those guys are average at best. Burrow and their receivers are elite but other than that, not much there.

And tell me where I'm wrong about being luckier than good last year? Tannehill & Mahomes both melted down against them, with leads and they barely got by the Raiders.

With all this being said they still could win the division, being the shiniest turd, in a shit sack division.

posted by BR1986FB

Not bitter about the Bengals. They're just not that good. Been hearing they were going to boat race the division because of that "new and improved O-Line." My response was that they didn't really improve it as those guys are average at best. Burrow and their receivers are elite but other than that, not much there.

And tell me where I'm wrong about being luckier than good last year? Tannehill & Mahomes both melted down against them, with leads and they barely got by the Raiders.

With all this being said they still could win the division, being the shiniest turd, in a shit sack division.

The defense has played well, kicker is one of the best, Burrow and receivers are elite, the offensive line was rough the first couple weeks but has played much better against the Jets and Dolphins. Seems like that should qualify as good? They don't have these terrible losses where we're sitting around questioning the coaching or defense already. Hopefully they'll be ready for Baltimore next Sunday. I, like you, listen to a lot of sports coverage and never heard much about them winning the division. Everyone shared your sentiment, that they'd come back down to earth and likely be a wildcard behind Baltimore. 

As for the playoffs last season, seems like Tennessee wasn't that good afterall, and Cincinnati made adjustments to beat KC, who also beat themselves. Cincinnati had beaten them already at the end of the regular season. 

Agree to disagree on the division. Cleveland and Baltimore have some ugly losses and suddenly it's a shit sack division. Fine with me if that's the case. I'm sick of the Ravens and Steelers always being good. 

Apparently a Steelers fan died after falling around an escalator after the game yesterday.

I rewatched all of Zach's passing snaps last night and he wasn't as bad as I had initially thought in real time. The Steelers pressured him on something like 27 of 35 drop backs or something close. Flacco would've been sacked at least 6 times and fumbled twice. Zach was only sacked once, which is a minor miracle. No excuse for the INT at the end of the 1st half, but his 4th quarter was a thing of beauty.

posted by justincredible

Apparently a Steelers fan died after falling around an escalator after the game yesterday.

Yeah, saw that. Messed up.

After a two TD rushing performance Daniel Jones nickname has changed from "Danny Dimes" to "Vanilla Vick" on Twitter lol.

Tua out vs the Jets. 

posted by justincredible

Tua out vs the Jets. 

That could at least mean Miami isn't intentionally trying to kill him, if they're giving his broken brain at least a week to try to push itself back together.

posted by BR1986FB

Not bitter about the Bengals. They're just not that good. Been hearing they were going to boat race the division because of that "new and improved O-Line." My response was that they didn't really improve it as those guys are average at best. Burrow and their receivers are elite but other than that, not much there.

And tell me where I'm wrong about being luckier than good last year? Tannehill & Mahomes both melted down against them, with leads and they barely got by the Raiders.

With all this being said they still could win the division, being the shiniest turd, in a shit sack division.

Man, did a Bengals fan sleep with your wife?  The Bengals made adjustments to shut down Tannehill and Mahomes. If Aaron Donald wasn't allowed to line up offsides, they would be world champs.  

Steelers staring big at 1-7

Kenny will get greatly tested

@Buffalo (that could be really bad)

vs Tampa Bay (most winnable but no)

@Miami (never won there when they were good)

@Philly (will 100% be ugly, Philly no mercy vs in state rival)

Buffalo opened at 14 point favorites vs Pittsburgh