posted by Laley23

OBJ is fine. Browns are 4-2 and favored by like 4 to be 5-2. We are all complaining because they got waxed by 2 of the top 5 teams in the NFL. These are problems 99.9% of Browns fans would’ve killed for the last decade+.

No one should lose by 30 in the NFL. The talent level between the teams isn't that great.  Even when you have the best team in the league against the worst team in the league, the point spread is usually around 2 touchdowns.

posted by Al Bundy

I'd hope that coaching and general manager are taking care of it behind scenes. It doesn't do any good to create public drama.

Which is what OBJ is doing with his babified antics on the sideline

posted by Al Bundy

No one should lose by 30 in the NFL. The talent level between the teams isn't that great.  Even when you have the best team in the league against the worst team in the league, the point spread is usually around 2 touchdowns.

Well, sure. But let’s not pretend blowouts don’t happen. 

It’s gonna suck if they aren’t competitive in the second games vs Baltimore and Pittsburgh. But, even if they aren’t, no one will be complaining if they make the playoffs like they currently project to do.

posted by Laley23

Well, sure. But let’s not pretend blowouts don’t happen. 

It’s gonna suck if they aren’t competitive in the second games vs Baltimore and Pittsburgh. But, even if they aren’t, no one will be complaining if they make the playoffs like they currently project to do.

If you break the league into thirds, you have the top 1/3 good, middle 1/3 average, and bottom 1/3 bad. The Browns have 5 games against good teams, 2 games against average teams, and 9 games against bad teams. So far, the Browns are 0-2 against good teams, 1-0 against average teams, and 3-0 against bad teams.

It's not just that we lost to Baltimore and Pittsburgh, but that they clearly quit in both games. There was no effort in the second half of those games. They were dominated. If the same thing happens when they play Tennessee, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and a playoff game, it would be very disappointing.

posted by Liberal

"Draft Baker Mayfield, and whatever you do, don't draft Josh Allen."

-Like that. Mr Smarty pants!

Spock and QO broke your brain so much, that you're bringing it to a Browns thread now?  

I’m sad to come to this realization, but Baker ain’t it. Trash today so far.

posted by iclfan2

I’m sad to come to this realization, but Baker ain’t it. 

I’ve been trying to hold off on that thought, but I’m getting close.

Burrow would be so much more fun to watch with any other offensive line. 

So Browns go up 4 and go completely soft defense? Shit tackling on that drive, wtf are they doing

That was a good game to watch.

Holy shit. Obj out and Baker goes HAM in the 2nd half. What in the world

The missed xp set up an interesting finish. 

3 TD’s in the 4th was impressive. 

Kardiac Kids version 2020!!

OBJ left the game, no sideline drama.

Lol, If Hue was coaching that Hail Mary would've fallen right into some Bengal'so lap.

posted by Gardens35

OBJ left the game, no sideline drama.

No sideline drama, and Baker was able to throw the ball to other receivers without getting yelled at.

posted by Al Bundy

No sideline drama, and Baker was able to throw the ball to other receivers without getting yelled at.

Yep, a win-win. It's time to put that baby in a corner.

Didn't watch, but this looks good on paper: 22-28, 297, 5/1

I’m wondering what Bengals defensive players would start on the other 3 AFC North teams?

The catch to get them into FG range was special....they lose if he doesn’t make that incredible catch. Last catch was also excellent. Throws were where they had to be.

posted by Gardens35

Lol, If Hue was coaching that Hail Mary would've fallen right into some Bengal'so lap.

I hate not rushing the QB on a Hail Mary from that distance. At least try to make him throw it without his feet set and all the receivers with time to set up in the end zone.

posted by friendfromlowry

Burrow would be so much more fun to watch with any other offensive line. 

As a Browns fan, I think that Burrow is going to be good. I think that they could help out Burrow (and the offensive line) by running the ball more. It's a lot harder to pass protect when the defense doesn't have to defend the run.

posted by Verbal Kint

Didn't watch, but this looks good on paper: 22-28, 297, 5/1

Yes, yes it does.  It helps restore my faith.

posted by Al Bundy

I hate not rushing the QB on a Hail Mary from that distance. At least try to make him throw it without his feet set and all the receivers with time to set up in the end zone.

I agree.  

posted by Verbal Kint

Didn't watch, but this looks good on paper: 22-28, 297, 5/1

Ha yea it looks good if you didn’t know he went 0-5 and one incompletion was a spike of that number. He balled out after halftime

That was an impressive game. I was real close to saying Baker needs benched if his ribs are that bad. Shut me up real quick lol.

Defense, unfortunately, has 3 players I’d keep. Myles, Ward and Richardson.