% Net Income goes to rent/house payment

Ironman92

Administrator

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 1:25 PM

Our house payment includes taxes and insurance but we pay right at 11% of our net earnings to our house payment 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 2:15 PM

Same with insurance/taxes. Ours is a little less than 25%.

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 2:17 PM
posted by Ironman92

Our house payment includes taxes and insurance but we pay right at 11% of our net earnings to our house payment 

If we are going off actual bring home (after 401k, medical ins, IRA contributions, etc) then 13%.


If we are going off of net (gross-taxes) then 10%.


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 2:28 PM

Somewhere around 10%-12%, i believe. 

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 2:40 PM

Around 11%.

Fab4Runner

Tits McGee

Sat, Jul 11, 2020 2:54 PM

4.8% lol. About 8% if you include gas, electric and water.

Ironman92

Administrator

Sun, Jul 12, 2020 9:27 PM
posted by Fab4Runner

4.8% lol. About 8% if you include gas, electric and water.

No definitely not including utilities.


Ironman92

Administrator

Sun, Jul 12, 2020 9:28 PM
posted by jmog

If we are going off actual bring home (after 401k, medical ins, IRA contributions, etc) then 13%.


If we are going off of net (gross-taxes) then 10%.


Yeah, sorry just assumed a bit on that stuff being taken out of check 


kizer permanente

Senior Member

Sun, Jul 12, 2020 11:04 PM

15% 

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 12:21 AM
posted by Fab4Runner

4.8% lol. About 8% if you include gas, electric and water.

That’s really low, and seriously congrats on that.  


12 years ago when we bought our house we were at around 25%.


Between 1 refi that dropped our interest a lot, and a lot more income than 12 years ago, that’s what got us to the % I listed above.


Use that low number to invest in IRA/401k and/or pay off your house way early.  


That is a great job to get something livable at that low % unless you are making like $250k/yr or more.


gut

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 12:49 AM

My income can be pretty variable.  I'd say my house payment is about 8-12% of gross income (excluding utilities).  But if you only look at the interest portion it's considerably lower.

FYI, mortgages in more expensive cities limit out at 40% of household gross income.  That may or may not make someone "house poor".


If you're under 25% of gross income you're doing it right.

birddog23

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 7:39 AM

20%


Past on refinancing this spring. We will likely sell within the next 3-5 years.


Houses in our area are going at a decent price and we can probably get $15k more than what we paid for our home in 2018. We have done some upkeep inside though too.

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 7:55 AM

1/6th

MontyBrunswick

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 8:26 AM

about 20%

a few years ago I was in a different part of the country and it was 36%

thavoice

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 12:23 PM

15%

rip34

Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 12:33 PM

Around 22% with 11 years left on the 15 year mortgage.  

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 12:39 PM
posted by MontyBrunswick

about 20%

a few years ago I was in a different part of the country and it was 36%

36%...whoa


Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 1:39 PM

14.68% on a 15 year, with rate of 2.625%, I'm happy

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:18 PM

refy tomorrow to a 20 year @ 3%....knocking 6 years off the mortgage and payment went up a whopping $60 a month

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:24 PM
posted by Spock

refy tomorrow to a 20 year @ 3%....knocking 6 years off the mortgage and payment went up a whopping $60 a month

Same. 5.5 years into a 30, about to refi to a 20 year at a similar rate. My rate was higher 5.5 years ago so my payment won't change.  That said, 11% of our gross (includes prop insurance and tax), about 15% of net. 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:32 PM

To each their own, but why are you guys doing 15-20 year mortgages?  You're just accelerating paying down the principal which is returning a lousy 2-2.5% after taxes.

You can debate paying a little more to lock-in a rate for 30 years, but when you crunch the numbers it's hard to beat the savings on a 5 or 7-yr ARM.  Rates have been low for 10+ years, and I don't see that changing significantly over the next 10 years.

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 4:55 PM
posted by gut

To each their own, but why are you guys doing 15-20 year mortgages?  You're just accelerating paying down the principal which is returning a lousy 2-2.5% after taxes.

You can debate paying a little more to lock-in a rate for 30 years, but when you crunch the numbers it's hard to beat the savings on a 5 or 7-yr ARM.  Rates have been low for 10+ years, and I don't see that changing significantly over the next 10 years.

Care to explain a little better to a gym teacher? We had a 30 year mortgage to buy our house, refinanced 1x and have 7 years left. Been here 17 years.


Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 4:55 PM
posted by gut

To each their own, but why are you guys doing 15-20 year mortgages?  You're just accelerating paying down the principal which is returning a lousy 2-2.5% after taxes.

You can debate paying a little more to lock-in a rate for 30 years, but when you crunch the numbers it's hard to beat the savings on a 5 or 7-yr ARM.  Rates have been low for 10+ years, and I don't see that changing significantly over the next 10 years.

Care to explain a little better to a gym teacher? We had a 30 year mortgage to buy our house, refinanced 1x and have 7 years left. Been here 17 years.


Con_Alma

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 5:16 PM

We are fortunate in this regard.  No house payment.


We had a 15 mortage that we paid off around 9 years agao.

cat_lover

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 5:38 PM

Our house is paid off that is one of the benefits of being old and married for a long time.

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 13, 2020 6:01 PM
posted by Ironman92

Care to explain a little better to a gym teacher? We had a 30 year mortgage to buy our house, refinanced 1x and have 7 years left. Been here 17 years.

It's mainly a savings vehicle.  On your taxes, only the interest is deductible.  A house generally appreciates at about 2.5-3% per year.  And there currently is an exemption of up to $500k capital gain for a married couple - meaning the gain is completely tax free.  So you borrow money to buy the house at about 2% after tax, meanwhile it's appreciating at about 3% per year after tax.

So when you pay down the loan, you're only saving the after-tax interest.  That means putting money into your house will yield a fixed 2% after-tax return.  I would sincerely hope we could all beat that in the market over the long term, even with conservative investments.

Taking out a 15-yr fixed rate loan right now when 10-yr ARM's are available at 2.75% makes no sense to me.  The slightly higher fixed rate loan will cost you thousands of dollars over 10 years, and saddle you with a larger payment with an ROI of 2%. But it's a great idea for people who can't save/invest their money.