Create a New Rule or Law

brutus161

The Navy Guy

Thu, May 20, 2021 3:55 PM

Come up with an original (or not widely disseminated) rule or law. It can be big or small, just something that you think is original.


One of mine:

First Amendment protection of the press should only apply to not-for-profit news organizations. Once a company uses news as propaganda to bolster profits, they shoud no longer have the same protections as those simply reporting the news or engaging in actual journalism. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 3:57 PM

I would eliminate ALL laws that punish people involved in victimless crimes. No new laws.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, May 20, 2021 4:19 PM
posted by justincredible

I would eliminate ALL laws that punish people involved in victimless crimes. No new laws.

Yeah. So, in spirit with the thread, it'd be this really verbose law that eliminates any number of other laws. Since the main purpose of those laws seems to be to generate revenue for law enforcement departments while punishing people for arbitrary reasons.

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 4:29 PM

MLB pitcher has 20 seconds to throw a pitch or attempt a pickoff.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 4:31 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah. So, in spirit with the thread, it'd be this really verbose law that eliminates any number of other laws. Since the main purpose of those laws seems to be to generate revenue for law enforcement departments while punishing people for arbitrary reasons.

Sure. The 28th Amendment repeals all laws of such nature.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 6:32 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah. So, in spirit with the thread, it'd be this really verbose law that eliminates any number of other laws. Since the main purpose of those laws seems to be to generate revenue for law enforcement departments while punishing people for arbitrary reasons.

It would be quite a debate what actually constitutes a truly "victimless" crime.  Jaywalking on an empty street.  Otherwise, I got nothing.

I assume Justin was going for drugs.  IMO, the buying and selling of drugs are not victimless crimes because both contribute to activities that DO cause crime.  Same as speeding in some cases - operating your vehicle in a reckless manner is only a victimless crime until you hit someone.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 6:36 PM

I vote for a law establishing a completely lawless autonomous zone where people can go to settle grievances in a proper manner, such as was in the day of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 6:48 PM
posted by gut

It would be quite a debate what actually constitutes a truly "victimless" crime.  Jaywalking on an empty street.  Otherwise, I got nothing.

I assume Justin was going for drugs.  IMO, the buying and selling of drugs are not victimless crimes because both contribute to activities that DO cause crime.  Same as speeding in some cases - operating your vehicle in a reckless manner is only a victimless crime until you hit someone.

You can only think of jaywalking on an empty street? 

gut

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 6:53 PM
posted by justincredible

You can only think of jaywalking on an empty street? 

Or sure there's more.  But for the most part, no one is getting locked-up for truly victimless crimes.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 6:56 PM

Not every violation ends in jail time. Just revenue generation for the state. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 9:19 PM

If I grew a few cannabis plants for personal use in Ohio and got caught would I get a felony? Just a misdemeanor? Either way, I’d get a record and owe the state a lot of money. 

Who, exactly, in this scenario is the victim?

gut

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 9:33 PM
posted by justincredible

Who, exactly, in this scenario is the victim?

Everyone who pays taxes because you didn't follow the regs?

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 9:44 PM

It’s 100% illegal to do that in Ohio. There are no “regs” for it. You can’t just make up an imaginary victim. I need a specific person or persons. By name. All of them. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Thu, May 20, 2021 10:32 PM
posted by gut

I vote for a law establishing a completely lawless autonomous zone where people can go to settle grievances in a proper manner, such as was in the day of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr.

Nice. Will there be a contest to name it and sponsor? "The Bloodshed Zone" brought to you by Nissan. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 10:42 PM

LawlessAutonomousZoney McLawlessAutonomousZoneface.

Doesn't really roll off the tongue like Boaty McBoatface.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 20, 2021 10:43 PM

I do agree we should bring back dueling. And tarring and feathering.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 3:12 AM
posted by justincredible

It’s 100% illegal to do that in Ohio. 

And so dodgers are fucking over taxpayers?  Again, how is this victimless?

superman

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 6:57 AM

Any NBA player that yells "And 1" and misses the shot is ejected. 

brutus161

The Navy Guy

Fri, May 21, 2021 7:48 AM
posted by gut
And so dodgers are fucking over taxpayers?  Again, how is this victimless?

How are the dodgers fucking over taxpayers? Please elaborate. If you are meaning that the loss in revenue from monetary fines for breaking a law are somehow hurting taxpayers, then you are proving the point of laws that are generated solely to produce revenue. 

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 8:18 AM

"Taxpayers" are never victims as they are never entitled to one penny's worth of my production. Ever.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, May 21, 2021 8:29 AM
posted by gut
And so dodgers are fucking over taxpayers?  Again, how is this victimless?

You are really bad at this.


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, May 21, 2021 8:41 AM
posted by brutus161

How are the dodgers fucking over taxpayers? Please elaborate. If you are meaning that the loss in revenue from monetary fines for breaking a law are somehow hurting taxpayers, then you are proving the point of laws that are generated solely to produce revenue. 

By gut’s extremely bad logic the state can simply make something illegal and, boom, the taxpayers are now a victim and the law is justified.

“It’s illegal so you’re stealing from taxpayers. How is that victimless!?!?”

brutus161

The Navy Guy

Fri, May 21, 2021 8:46 AM
posted by justincredible

By gut’s extremely bad logic the state can simply make something illegal and, boom, the taxpayers are now a victim and the law is justified.

“It’s illegal so you’re stealing from taxpayers. How is that victimless!?!?”

It's like the states that makle it illegal to collect rainwater. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 11:42 AM
posted by Al Bundy

MLB pitcher has 20 seconds to throw a pitch or attempt a pickoff.


How about the batters are not allowed to step out of the batter's box once inside.  The batters are the majority of the problem, stepping out after every single pitch and adjusting every article of clothing and jewelry they are wearing ...... ridiculous. 

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 11:53 AM
posted by QuakerOats


How about the batters are not allowed to step out of the batter's box once inside.  The batters are the majority of the problem, stepping out after every single pitch and adjusting every article of clothing and jewelry they are wearing ...... ridiculous. 

Yeah, the umps shouldn't grant time after pitch, but I think that only works if the pitcher can't hold the ball forever.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, May 21, 2021 12:30 PM
posted by justincredible

You are really bad at this.


You think tax evasion isn't baked into the taxes everyone else pays?!?

Tax dodgers are victimless crimes?  Fucking moronic.