Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Sep 18, 2023 10:04 PM

Watson looks… not good

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Sep 18, 2023 10:29 PM

I just saw the injury replay by accident. I really wish I hadn't.

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Sep 18, 2023 11:01 PM
posted by justincredible

I just saw the injury replay by accident. I really wish I hadn't.

I went looking for it to see if it was season ending  


Wish I hadn’t, might be career ending  


gut

Senior Member

Mon, Sep 18, 2023 11:48 PM

Good investment in Watson, guys.

Just can't keep his hands to himself, apparently.

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Sep 18, 2023 11:55 PM

I saw stuff on FB. I pray it’s not true.


Prayers to Nick Chubb, nothing else remotely matters

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:20 AM
posted by Ironman92

I saw stuff on FB. I pray it’s not true.


Prayers to Nick Chubb, nothing else remotely matters

What’d you see?


Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:37 AM

This team can’t win without Chubb. They are built on line play and running. WR aren’t nearly good enough or game breaking. 

That hit was dirty as hell. Will take a lot of convincing to make me change my mind. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 7:35 AM

Still mad about that stupid game. The offensive play calling is really frustrating

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 7:53 AM

Gotta be on the phone with the colts today for Jonathan Taylor. 


I hope Minkah gets hit by a drunk driver. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 8:13 AM

Jerome Ford looked pretty solid 

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 8:21 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

Jerome Ford looked pretty solid 

Yeah I’d give him the chance for sure.


Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 8:37 AM

No. Jerome Ford is a backup. He won’t break tackles or gain 4 instead of 2. They need a stud. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 8:56 AM

He looked pretty good last night against a tough defense. But I guess keep thinking you need studs. It’s worked out well with Watson so far. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 8:59 AM
posted by Laley23

No. Jerome Ford is a backup. He won’t break tackles or gain 4 instead of 2. They need a stud. 

Well you aren’t getting a replacement like Chubb. He was a backup to Chubb. How many studs are even in the NFL?


Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 11:47 AM
posted by Ironman92

Well you aren’t getting a replacement like Chubb. He was a backup to Chubb. How many studs are even in the NFL?


Taylor. I would trade for him now, otherwise I think you are wasting another season. The Division is right there. This team is stacked in a lot of spots, but it all is predicated on a monster at RB. Without Chubb, this offense is going to look even worse than it currently does. 

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 11:48 AM
posted by Al Bundy

The worst part about Watson is that we mortgaged the next decade for him. 

It looks terrible, but I still think it was the right move. Stefanski may be more the issue at this point...

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:28 PM
posted by Laley23

It looks terrible, but I still think it was the right move. Stefanski may be more the issue at this point...

Stefanski sucks too, but what do you possibly see in Watson that justifies giving up 3 first round picks? 

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:39 PM
posted by Al Bundy

Stefanski sucks too, but what do you possibly see in Watson that justifies giving up 3 first round picks? 

Currently? Nothing. At the time, the fact we were never getting a QB without overspending...

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:43 PM
posted by Al Bundy

Stefanski sucks too, but what do you possibly see in Watson that justifies giving up 3 first round picks? 

It was the right move in that they were going nowhere with Mayfield and Watson was perceived as a FQB. I don't think anyone would've known he was going to be as bad as he's been. The correct intent was there.

On a side note, if I'm Jimmy Haslam, prior to the next meeting with these guys I'm whispering "$10 million to whoever takes out Fitzpatrick's knees." EVERY national pundit I've seen has called blatant cheap shot to try to take him out by Fitzpatrick but typical "Stiller Football."

This game was SO disappointing. Outplayed them across the board but kind of hard to win when your offense scores more points than their offense for THEIR team. Chalking this one up to an anomaly as that defense isn't going to put up 2 TD's every week and that offense is lucky if it will score more than one against any opponent.

And WTF is Watson's fascination with face masking opponents? When was the last time you've seen a QB with 2 personal foul penalties in a game?

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 12:59 PM

That second face mask was bad. The first one his finger got caught. It wasnt as aggressive as it looked, as he was trying to free his finger. Still not sure why he grabbed initially on it though lol.

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 1:10 PM
posted by BR1986FB

It was the right move in that they were going nowhere with Mayfield and Watson was perceived as a FQB. I don't think anyone would've known he was going to be as bad as he's been. The correct intent was there.

On a side note, if I'm Jimmy Haslam, prior to the next meeting with these guys I'm whispering "$10 million to whoever takes out Fitzpatrick's knees." EVERY national pundit I've seen has called blatant cheap shot to try to take him out by Fitzpatrick but typical "Stiller Football."

This game was SO disappointing. Outplayed them across the board but kind of hard to win when your offense scores more points than their offense for THEIR team. Chalking this one up to an anomaly as that defense isn't going to put up 2 TD's every week and that offense is lucky if it will score more than one against any opponent.

And WTF is Watson's fascination with face masking opponents? When was the last time you've seen a QB with 2 personal foul penalties in a game?

I get taking a chance on guy, but to give up 3 first round picks for a project was crazy. No one else offered anything else close to what we offered. We greatly overpaid. Plus, we are losing out on first round picks who could currently be on the roster helping us, and we don't have a pick next year. It is going to take a long time to recover.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 1:27 PM
posted by Al Bundy

I get taking a chance on guy, but to give up 3 first round picks for a project was crazy. No one else offered anything else close to what we offered. We greatly overpaid. Plus, we are losing out on first round picks who could currently be on the roster helping us, and we don't have a pick next year. It is going to take a long time to recover.

A project? The guy was in the MVP discussion and a multiple Pro Bowl QB. Three 1st rounders for Trey Lance is a "project", not Watson. He was proven.

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 19, 2023 2:02 PM
posted by BR1986FB

A project? The guy was in the MVP discussion and a multiple Pro Bowl QB. Three 1st rounders for Trey Lance is a "project", not Watson. He was proven.

After missing basically 2 years, I think that it is fair to call him a project right now. He put up big numbers in a gimmick offense in a dome in a terrible division. They got exposed when they made the playoffs. If you are going to give up 3 first round picks, it better be for an all-time great, and even then it doesn't usually work out. We win easily last night with an average QB.