posted by jmog

I assume your first line applies if someone has any other part of their body out that would be considered nudity (vagina, penis, butt)? Just turn their head, mind their business, don’t be offended?

 

I actually am “ok” with that but you should understand that society in general is not. Public nudity is still not accepted. You know this, you are just being obtuse. 

Yeah dude. Everyone is being obtuse but you. You just know social standards!

posted by jmog

 

I actually am “ok” with that but you should understand that society in general is not. Public nudity is still not accepted. You know this, you are just being obtuse. 

 

 

posted by SportsAndLady

Yeah dude. Everyone is being obtuse but you. You just know social standards!

So are you trying to say that our current societal standards are ok with public nudity? Because that would be a fun/quick conversation.

This is not about public nudity, ie. flaunting your balls, breasts, ass, penis, or vagina.

If you can't figure out the differerance between that and the topic at hand then I can't help you.

posted by jmog

So are you trying to say that our current societal standards are ok with public nudity? Because that would be a fun/quick conversation.

Yeah!

posted by jmog

So are you trying to say that our current societal standards are ok with public nudity? Because that would be a fun/quick conversation.

I guess the question would be "so what?". One may consider going against "societal standards" as rude, and as stated earlier, you're entitled to be offended if you so choose. Now what?

Society actually had a choice and they made it a law that it is ok in public 

posted by jmog

So are you saying that public nudity should not make people uncomfortable?

In this particular instance, I was attempting to point out that someone being uncomfortable with something does not make that something wrong. 

But to the general topic of public nudity, I think a breast is a breast. Male or female. 

posted by Automatik

This is not about public nudity, ie. flaunting your balls, breasts, ass, penis, or vagina.

If you can't figure out the differerance between that and the topic at hand then I can't help you.

I can understand the difference between popping out a breast for show and breastfeeding. I personally am fine with it, I am stating that in general society is not because of the nudity factor of a breast.

I have also stated that just because the breast, during breastfeeding, is accomplishing is biological function, doesn't make it "ok" automatically by societal standards. Men aren't allowed to whip out their penis to take a piss in full view of others even though that is the penis' biological function.

That is the point, until society doesn't view the female breast as "nudity" then breastfeeding in public will have a stigma on it UNLESS you cover up (which all of us have said multiple times).

posted by geeblock

Society actually had a choice and they made it a law that it is ok in public 

posted by geeblock

Society actually had a choice and they made it a law that it is ok in public 

Our government does not always equate to society standards.

I think the fact that 47 states have passed breastfeeding protection laws is great (last 3 are Idaho, Virginia, and South Dakota).

That doesn't change how people feel about it is all that I have said above, and it is "asking for attention" or "rude" if you just plop it out just to see if anyone says anything do you. 

Like I said, it literally is extremely easy to breastfeed without showing your boob at all while out in public. My wife did it for 3 kids and didn't ever have to put a blanket over the kids heads. 

posted by jmog

I can understand the difference between popping out a breast for show and breastfeeding. I personally am fine with it, I am stating that in general society is not because of the nudity factor of a breast.

 

I have also stated that just because the breast, during breastfeeding, is accomplishing is biological function, doesn't make it "ok" automatically by societal standards. Men aren't allowed to whip out their penis to take a piss in full view of others even though that is the penis' biological function.

 

That is the point, until society doesn't view the female breast as "nudity" then breastfeeding in public will have a stigma on it UNLESS you cover up (which all of us have said multiple times).

So...

Breastfeeding = urinating in public?

I don't view it as a stigma. It's just people who look to get offended just for the sake of being offended. What a shitty way to live.

posted by Automatik

So...

Breastfeeding = urinating in public?

 

Both involve nudity, both involve using the body part for its intended function, both involve a liquid leaving the body...

I mean I understand you are trying to go the hyperbole route "SO YOU THINK FEEDING A BABY IS THE SAME AS PISSING IN PUBLIC???" 

However, lets leave hyperbole out of it and realize the argument that "it's natural" that most use can be said for MANY things that shouldn't be publicly displayed.

Most of society just wants the "compromise", feed the baby whenever/wherever you want, just have the breast mostly covered so that only a real creep would be able to see it.

That isn't really that hard to do nor is it that much to ask.

I mean I was sitting right in front of a woman Sunday at church, in the church service, who was breast feeding during the sermon. No one had a problem with it no one even gave it a second glance.

Why?

Because she did it respectfully and the breast was never out. Like I said, it's not that hard.

Jmog, the GOD OF ALL SOCIETAL STANDARDS, has spoken. 

You can’t see me...but right now I have my boob out

posted by SportsAndLady

Jmog, the GOD OF ALL SOCIETAL STANDARDS, has spoken. 

Or just someone who understands them. The "God" of them would be able to modify them at will according to his/her wants/needs.

Understanding something doesn't make one the "god" of it. I understand mathematics and engineering very well, but I am not the god of them. See the difference?

posted by Ironman92

You can’t see me...but right now I have my boob out

tmi

posted by jmog

Or just someone who understands them. The "God" of them would be able to modify them at will according to his/her wants/needs.

Lol that was his point. There are standards (laws)  that exist. You think the standards are wrong and your version is what is correct. Now who's being obtuse? 

posted by FatHobbit

Lol that was his point. There are standards (laws)  that exist. You think the standards are wrong and your version is what is correct. Now who's being obtuse? 

This. 

Jmog is your typical smart guy who bends reality to fit his narrative. And is smart enough to convince himself and others that he’s right. 

posted by jmog

Men aren't allowed to whip out their penis to take a piss in full view of others even though that is the penis' biological function.

The only reason they should not be allowed to do so has to do with people not wanting strangers pissing on their property. That someone's little whelp sees a cock is of no consequence.

posted by FatHobbit

Lol that was his point. There are standards (laws)  that exist. You think the standards are wrong and your version is what is correct. Now who's being obtuse? 

Have you not read what I wrote? My opinion differs from what society currently deems appropriate. Me stating society standards is not the same as me stating my opinion on the subject.

posted by vball10set

tmi

Better than tho

posted by jmog

Have you not read what I wrote? My opinion differs from what society currently deems appropriate. Me stating society standards is not the same as me stating my opinion on the subject.

How do you now what "society deems appropriate"?

I can't think of a single friend, family member, or coworker that would give two shits if they saw a breast in public while breastfeeding. Like myself, they simply don't give a shit.

posted by Automatik

How do you now what "society deems appropriate"?

I can't think of a single friend, family member, or coworker that would give two shits if they saw a breast in public while breastfeeding. Like myself, they simply don't give a shit.

I can’t really think of anyone I know that cares if they see a boob in public...but I know a lot of people who care if someone is bothered by seeing a boob while breastfeeding.

posted by Ironman92

but I know a lot of people who care if someone is bothered by seeing a boob while breastfeeding.

Lol are they all here?