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O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 3:12 PM
posted by Spock

stuff like this make you look smart

Hi.  This is irony.  I'd like a moment of your time.
 

posted by justincredible

I'll drink it every once in a while to help with a hangover, but only if I have to be out running errands and can grab a bottle easily. I miss Lemon Ice.

 

Drank a lot of it while in Vegas, both to chase having a few drinks AND because it's so fucking dry out there.
 

posted by Verbal Kint

Correct.  I will not subscribe to bro science.  There is not a need for sucrose or dextrose. 

Well, electrolytes really aren't "bro science," and they are indeed contained in some of the sports drinks you can buy.

However, if we're getting down to brass tacks, you're not wrong.  While water may not be as replenished after exercise without electrolytes along with it, it's not like you're going to die without them ... at least more than 99% of the time.

 

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 3:21 PM
posted by O-Trap

Well, electrolytes really aren't "bro science," and they are indeed contained in some of the sports drinks you can buy.

However, if we're getting down to brass tacks, you're not wrong.  While water may not be as replenished after exercise without electrolytes along with it, it's not like you're going to die without them ... at least more than 99% of the time.

 

I have a problem with thinking sugar drinks are healty.

My belief is that fruits and vegetables provide electrolytes without entering sugar drink mode and if I need sodium, sea salt in EVOO will replenish.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 4:40 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

 

I have a problem with thinking sugar drinks are healty.

My belief is that fruits and vegetables provide electrolytes without entering sugar drink mode and if I need sodium, sea salt in EVOO will replenish.

Oh, sure.  You can absolutely get electrolytes without a sugary "sports drink."  I daresay, however, that trying to eat a banana with some EVOO while drinking water in the middle of playing in a basketball game is ... well ... cumbersome.

However, I don't disagree with you that sugar in such a drink is unnecessary to any healthy process.

MontyBrunswick

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 6:47 PM
posted by O-Trap



However, I don't disagree with you that sugar in such a drink is unnecessary to any healthy process.

Not Gatorade though. It's nutrient dense. It has the proper % of sugar (and type of sugar) to prevent an insulin response.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 7:31 PM
posted by MontyBrunswick

Not Gatorade though. It's nutrient dense. It has the proper % of sugar (and type of sugar) to prevent an insulin response.

Eh ... nutrient dense?  It's electrolytes, carbs, and what?  Maybe some B-vitamins?  Not sure I'd call that nutrient dense.

For someone exercising either for a really long time or in extreme heat, absolutely.  However, unless someone has diabetes, they shouldn't be having an insulin response through just an hour of exercise or so, provided it's indoors or in normal temperatures.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 7:32 PM
posted by O-Trap

Eh ... nutrient dense?  It's electrolytes, carbs, and what?  Maybe some B-vitamins?  Not sure I'd call that nutrient dense.

For someone exercising either for a really long time or in extreme heat, absolutely.  However, unless someone has diabetes, they shouldn't be having an insulin response through just an hour of exercise or so, provided it's indoors or in normal temperatures.

Re-read the thread. I read his post as a Brawndo reference.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 7:42 PM
posted by justincredible

Re-read the thread. I read his post as a Brawndo reference.

Well shit.  Went right over my head.

MontyBrunswick

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 10:21 PM
posted by O-Trap

Eh ... nutrient dense?  It's electrolytes, carbs, and what?  Maybe some B-vitamins?  Not sure I'd call that nutrient dense.

 

Please see below. Thanks.  

posted by Spock

you are an idiot if you dont unerstand that there are electrolytes in it and also the sugar to fluid concetration is at the proper % to allow for absorbtion without a large insulin response.  Not to mention the type of sugars used.

I am not going to explain any further to you or anyone else if you think I am stupid.  Just keep drinking powerade you idiot.

 

 

posted by Spock

What they fail to understand is that not all sugar products are as bad as others.  Taxing a nutrient dense food like gatorade (milk has sugar in it also, they gonna tax that?)  is stupid.

Taxing empty calorie/high sugar/added sugar products would be ok (NY state soda tax) is what needs to be done to reduce the obesity/healthcare issues with over consuming sugar.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 11, 2018 11:53 PM
posted by MontyBrunswick

Please see below. Thanks.  

posted by Spock

you are an idiot if you dont unerstand that there are electrolytes in it and also the sugar to fluid concetration is at the proper % to allow for absorbtion without a large insulin response.  Not to mention the type of sugars used.

I am not going to explain any further to you or anyone else if you think I am stupid.  Just keep drinking powerade you idiot.

 

 

posted by Spock

What they fail to understand is that not all sugar products are as bad as others.  Taxing a nutrient dense food like gatorade (milk has sugar in it also, they gonna tax that?)  is stupid.

Taxing empty calorie/high sugar/added sugar products would be ok (NY state soda tax) is what needs to be done to reduce the obesity/healthcare issues with over consuming sugar.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I went back and read.

Sweet Moses ...

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:46 AM
posted by O-Trap

Yeah, I went back and read.

Sweet Moses ...

CC trying to sound intelligent is the joke that never gets old on this site.

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:54 PM
posted by Heretic

CC trying to sound intelligent is the joke that never gets old on this site.

 

I usually just laugh it off, but that should be his expertise, health and nutrition being a professional gym class professional.

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:56 PM

i have forgotten more about nutrition/fitness/health than what you guys will ever know

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:20 PM

Tell us more!

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:31 PM
posted by Spock

i have forgotten more about nutrition/fitness/health than what you guys will ever know

You might have forgotten it all.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:36 PM
posted by O-Trap

You might have forgotten it all.

He's forgotten so much that he's become the site's least intelligent person on that topic. Keeping him consistent with every other topic he comments upon.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:53 PM

Keep government off my ............sugar

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Jan 12, 2018 3:00 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Keep government off my ............sugar, alcohol, shrooms, weed, tobacco, speed, and trans fats

For a more full scope. 

19AL63

Junior Member

Sun, Jan 21, 2018 7:46 AM

The problem I have is that most politicians do not give a ......... ( pick your bad word) about your health or even theirs.  Just look at their life styles, ,Their bodies fitness and the truth is they are just trying to find another way to get your and my money and at the same time make it that they can justify doing it,

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 10:49 AM

money is power....

And the sad part is, many of the "average" politicians have convinced the electorate that rich people are out of touch and don't understand the common man....but MOST of those "average" politicians are making a career in politics to get rich, and others leave after a period of time to become overpaid lobbyists or some other way to monetize their influence.

We can vote them out - it's only corrupt in the sense that the electorate is too lazy, disinterested and ignorant to do anything about it.

Also, I don't remember the parties being run with such an iron fist.  Seems like plenty of moderates used to cross over the aisle routinely.  You would never see 48 Dems in the Senate all browbeaten into voting a party line.  Because the message is if you don't play ball, the DNC will primary you.