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Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:09 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know exactly what the Ds could do short of gum up the hearings and fillibuster. 

It all depends on who Trump nominates. If that person wants to overturn Roe v,. Wade, that could turnout the D base and lead to a very, very hostile hearing. 

The hostile strategy might work for the Ds to turn out people in the midterms. Also, could back fire. We'll see. 

Again, things just got uglier over the next few months. If you like pure shitstorm politics and overreactions, sit backand get your popcorn ready. 

We agree for the first time ever.........shitstorm it is and it will be fun to watch!!!!  There is only one for sure here....everyone will be showing their true colors on this one!!!!  I hope Trump does something to make both sides just explode.  Outside the Beltway that would just make us minions love him more

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:25 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know exactly what the Ds could do short of gum up the hearings and fillibuster. 

It all depends on who Trump nominates. If that person wants to overturn Roe v,. Wade, that could turnout the D base and lead to a very, very hostile hearing. 

The hostile strategy might work for the Ds to turn out people in the midterms. Also, could back fire. We'll see. 

Again, things just got uglier over the next few months. If you like pure shitstorm politics and overreactions, sit backand get your popcorn ready. 

So, in other words nothing new and more of the #RESIST bullshit we see.  I don't know where you have been, but I don't think we have gone 3 weeks since Trump was elected without people acting like the end of democracy is here.  Pretty sure the people who are going to overreact are the same people who have overreacted to everything so far.  

It wasn't too long ago, but I recall Gorsuch stated Roe/Wade is the law of the land and he accepts it.  If Trump appoints another justice who feels that way, crying about Roe/Wade being overturned will just be bullshit.  I guess I am not buying the "more turnout" for dems argument when it comes to the SCOTUS.  I think more likely more conservatives come to play with a justice that will have an effect on them for most of their lives.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:26 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Oh, I've already seen the abortion and gay marriage will be outlawed in 18 months tweets...

This will only just fire up the bases...

It won't happen.  Trump (and the GOP) is dumb, but not that dumb.  

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:33 PM
posted by like_that

It won't happen.  Trump (and the GOP) is dumb, but not that dumb.  

Trump: "Hold my beer... "

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:38 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

.... gay marriage will be outlawed in 18 months tweets...

To be fair, that's an example of legislating from the bench.

I couldn't care less about whether or not a gay couple gets to sign a piece of paper together.  But there are many legal rights afforded to spouses they probably should be entitled to.  However, that's for Congress to make federal law, not the SCOTUS.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:39 PM

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:41 PM
posted by Spock

.......shitstorm it is and it will be fun to watch!!!! 

If Trump plays his cards right, his nomination might give Ginsburg a heart attack.

Seriously, could any shitstorm top Trump getting a chance to replace Ginsburg?

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:42 PM
posted by iclfan2

That would be a terrible argument. Trump got elected so that the court wouldn't turn into Looney Tunes, and thank goodness he won now.  They'll use the Nuclear option, the one that Harry Reid invoked.

Not necessary; a simple senate majority is required for confirmation. Gorsuch was 54-45.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:42 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

The irony of having FDR as his cover photo LOL. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 3:45 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

hah! You really do want to watch the world burn, eh?

 

Oh, this this time around will be epic.  Let the bra burning begin. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 8:00 PM

Some great tweets to look back at. 

"This gridlock has not served the cause of justice ... It's undermined it." —President Obama, supporting filibuster reform in the Senate

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) November 22, 2013

 

 

Whoa. In 2013, Reid asked if he was worried GOP could change filibuster on #SCOTUS. His response: "Let 'em do it" https://t.co/OG3sL0QM8Z pic.twitter.com/st8g1T698I

— America Rising (@ARSquared) April 4, 2017


 

Thanks to all of you who encouraged me to consider filibuster reform. It had to be done.

— Senator Harry Reid (@SenatorReid) November 21, 2013



 

 

 

 



 

 

fish82

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 8:42 PM

Trump will appoint someone in the mold of Gorsuch, (who if we’re being honest is NOT a hardcore conservative) and the democrats will pitch a minor tantrum...but in the end will be powerless to stop confirmation.

superman

Senior Member

Wed, Jun 27, 2018 10:30 PM

Justice Gowdy sounds good to me.  

 

It won't happen but I would love it.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 6:12 AM
posted by superman

Justice Gowdy sounds good to me.  

 

It won't happen but I would love it.

I actually like Trey Gowdy, so that wouldn't bother me. Some say that he's been grooming for AG, but ... either way.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 8:37 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

Reading through that thread was fun. This tweet in particular:

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 8:38 AM

I've seen that Mike Lee is on a list as a potential justice. Wouldn't mind that.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 8:49 AM
posted by justincredible

Reading through that thread was fun. This tweet in particular:

Read thru the thread from the Reid and Obama tweets I posted.  Highly entertaining.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 9:02 AM

It's just like all of those people and celebrities who said that they were going to leave the US when/if/because Trump got elected. Their asses didn't go nowhere. It's the spastic vomitage of a disordered, ill and immature mind. 
I'm not really sure who they are trying to impress with these empty ultimatums. Even the people who like these tweets or even retweet them know that it's an empty statement and they're not going anywhere, either. Perhaps they believe that this will influence policy? I dunno...

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 1:13 PM

Amazing how little people know about how the court works. They just don't say "We're going to overturn Roe v. Wade (or Heller or whatever)" out of thin air. They rule on cases. Usually with a very fine-tip pen, they don't tend to be interested in reversing course in major ways, nor should they be. The screeching over a SCOTUS change is WAY over the top.

 

 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 1:37 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

Amazing how little people know about how the court works. They just don't say "We're going to overturn Roe v. Wade (or Heller or whatever)" out of thin air. They rule on cases. Usually with a very fine-tip pen, they don't tend to be interested in reversing course in major ways, nor should they be. The screeching over a SCOTUS change is WAY over the top.

 

 

This.  Not to mention how difficult it is to get the SCOTUS to hear your case.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 28, 2018 1:55 PM
posted by like_that

This.  Not to mention how difficult it is to get the SCOTUS to hear your case.

Right, and the lower courts generally need to find a legal challenge or exception to precedent, and then higher courts have to agree.  Or multiple cases that have a difference of opinion throughout different district courts.

And I don't know that there has been many cases that actually threaten Roe v. Wade to even come close to the SCOTUS.  I hope so, though, because it would finally put an end to "OLD WHITE MEN WANT TO TAKE YOUR ABORTIONS AWAY!!!!"

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Fri, Jun 29, 2018 10:33 AM

I read a Huffpo article that recommended the dems to stack the courts and change the amount of justices from 9 to 11 LOL.  A few reasons why this is laughable at best:

-Pick up a history book, this already was tried by FDR and he was shot down.

-This would currently favor the GOP, soooo.....

-Who is tyrannical again?

-Apparently the Huffpo hasn't learned their lesson from this current situation.  Changing the rules in your favor and benefit your agenda will eventually be used against you. 

 

When you are that unhinged, sound logic goes out of the window. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jun 29, 2018 10:36 AM
posted by like_that

I read a Huffpo article that recommended the dems to stack the courts and change the amount of justices from 9 to 11 LOL.  A few reasons why this is laughable at best:

-Pick up a history book, this already was tried by FDR and he was shot down.

-This would currently favor the GOP, soooo.....

-Who is tyrannical again?

-Apparently the Huffpo hasn't learned their lesson from this current situation.  Changing the rules in your favor and benefit your agenda will eventually be used against you. 

 

When you are that unhinged, sound logic goes out of the window. 

Yeah, I heard that too and just laughed and said, "Umm FDR tried that and failed..."Come on.